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I think I know the answer to this, but - can I use Vanish on a waterproof?

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 IHN
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Well, I know I can, I suppose the question is whether I should.

I've finally got round to washing my waterproof (RAB something or other) in Grangers wash stuff, and it's now a lot cleaner but after a winter of being pretty much permanently damp it still has a deep, mouldy, pong.

It's the type of mouldy pong that I know Vanish would shift, but I assume that using that won't do the membrane etc any good?

Do I just give it another go through the machine with the Grangers?

And while I'm at it, I'll be using a wash in proofer next, is it:

wash in - dry - tumble

or just

wash in - tumble


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 8:52 am
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It's not so much the membrane, which will be fine, as the DWR treatment on the outside of the fabric which is there to stop water soaking into the face fabric and wetting it out which kills breathability.

I'd try re-washing it with Grangers then hanging it in the sun for a day - UV is good at killing microbes. If that doesn't work, you can always resort to using a normal washing detergent, persil etc, then wash again in Grangers and double rinse it. The trouble with normal detergents is that they contain wetting agents and optical brighteners which tend to compromise the DWR treatment - wetting agents in particular are designed to help water penetrate fabrics, so obviously not good.

With the proofer - which is the DWR above - follow the manufacturer's instructions. Mostly they don't need heat-treating these days, plus a tumble drier abrades fabrics and, if the thermostat is off, risks melting stuff and killing any reflective bits too.


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:06 am
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I read this as ‘varnish’ 😁


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:11 am
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you can always resort to using a normal washing detergent, persil etc

Non-bio though, or liquid soap flakes.


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:16 am
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I'd do multiple washes before resorting to proper detergent.

Sainsbury's sell Halo sport wash which is antibacterial designed to remove pong from low temperature washing. I still wouldn't use it as first choice but if liquid soap and technical wash is not working, that's probably the next step


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:16 am
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Cheers all, I'll put it through another Grangers wash.

(BWD - I have a sneaky feeling it used to be your waterproof TBH, I got it off the classifieds here... )


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:18 am
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(BWD – I have a sneaky feeling it used to be your waterproof TBH, I got it off the classifieds here… )

** hides **


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:22 am
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It's alright, I'm not saying you're responsible for the smell 🙂


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:31 am
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Non-bio though, or liquid soap flakes.

Why? Why not use a biological detergent?


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 9:48 am
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I'd turn it inside out and get it out on the line in the sunshine before throwing more chemicals at it.


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 10:38 am
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we'ev got some halo sports wash if you want to try that. Also have some nikwak tech wash for something else yuo can try


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 10:41 am
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in the sunshine

Yeah, about that...


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 10:57 am
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About what?


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 11:19 am
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Yes you can - but you'll never find it again...


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 11:41 am
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Why? Why not use a biological detergent?

It can contain bleach apparently. However, it’s probably fabric conditioner I was thinking of which clogs the membrane.
For Gore’s website:

Machine wash (105°F/40°C).
Use a small amount of liquid detergent.
Rinse twice and minimize spinning.
Don't use powder detergents, fabric softeners, stain removers, or bleach.
Don't wash with heavily soiled clothing.


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 3:41 pm
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I read this as ‘varnish’ 😁

At least it would stay waterproof


 
Posted : 29/07/2022 3:47 pm
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Powder biological detergents don't contain bleach as bleach would destroy the emzymes in the detergent. They will contain percarbonate though which breaks down to form hydrogen peroxide which will act as a destainer and biocide. This breakdown only hapens once the wash water is up to temperature which gives the enzymes some time to work.

If the manufacturer is recommending liquid detergents only, these don't contain percarbonate, I'd avoid using Vanish as this is percarbonate with an accelerator (TAED) to get the breakdown to peroxide going at lower temperatures.

As someone above recommended hang the garment out in the sunhine, remembering to turn it inside out at some point, and let the UV do its work.


 
Posted : 31/07/2022 1:15 am

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