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Well, seeing as I’ve been up here for over 30 years I suppose it’s inevitable. I was overtaken by a vehicle emblazoned with the words “Glen Valley Coaches”. I.Was.Appalled.
Is this what RAB C Nesbitt died for?
I’ll get ma kilt.
Perhaps the owner of the business is Mr Glen Valley. You can't jump to conclusions
Personally I always find Cairngorm Mountain a difficult proposition but they seem to get away with it
They’re based in Wooler which has an area known as the Glendale Valley.
It's ok when you book you'll get a PIN number
Perhaps the owner of the business is Mr Glen Valley
I installed some paintings by the painter Glenn Onwin at Inverness Airport once - big, painterly abstract canvases.
At the launch night one of the management were showing guests about looks at the label then announces:
"It's, err. Glen Onwin. That'll be Ben Onwin in in the background"
then pointing to a blue smear
"Thats probably Loch Onwin"
the Glendale Valley
Aargh!
And also...
I always find Cairngorm Mountain a difficult proposition
Don’t get me started on Mount Snowdon.
Naw
“It’s, err. Glen Onwin. That’ll be Ben Onwin in in the background”
then pointing to a blue smear
“Thats probably Loch Onwin
Lol
I thought you were going to say because there's never enough saat in anything anymore.
My taste buds definitely changed after 12 years in Shetland with reestit soups, saat cod and the like. Doesn't seem to be quite as heavy on the seasoning down here in Angus.
Glen Strathfarrar anyone?
On a more somber note, I don't think you can ever become Scottish. I think you can become British, but not Scottish, Welsh or English.
A little bit like Changing class. Not possible within one generation
Yeah it was the Glen, Dale and Valley bit that was raising my heckles 🙂
Loch Loch always makes me laugh. It’s not just in Scotland where this happens - I seem to recall the River Ouse in York means “river river” (presumably from Norse), and it’s the same for loads of other rivers and lochs/lakes.
On a more somber note, I don’t think you can ever become Scottish. I think you can become British, but not Scottish, Welsh or English.
I kind of disagree. I've been here around 30 years now, there is a concept of 'the people of Scotland' and I see myself as one of those. I might not have been born here but thats just an accident of birth, I chose Scotland, for many reasons, I will live here until I die, and I will contribute to society. Unlike many famous professional Scots who will ham up their Scottishness and do anything for the country other than pay tax and live here. And I've always been made welcome.
Do you feel a tightening sensation in your pockets? An urge for a Tennants lager? Browsing the deep fried Mars Bars as part of a fish supper?
River Ouse in York means “river river”
Rather like the River Avon in my second image. The thing about Loch Loch though, is that it's in Glen Loch. That makes me wonder which came first, the glen or the loch - and why isn't it Loch Glen Loch? 😀
My son considers himself proudly Scottish, we moved here when he was 2 and he's 17 next month. So never known anything other than Scottish despite not being born here.
To be fair he's also quarter Scottish via his mam, and an eight Irish via me.
Rather like the River Avon in my second image.
There's nine of them! https://sites.google.com/site/majorriversofthebritishisles/river-avon
Yeah it was the Glen, Dale and Valley bit that was raising my heckles
Yup, does seem a but the river is the reason while it’s called that.
Allt *insert name here* Burn anyone?
Burn is also a Northumbrian term, a Burn becomes a Beck once you cross the River Tees
Aargh!
A sweepy says - you can be one of "the people of scotland" ( those who live here and have made it their home) Without being one of "the scots people" - (the ethnic group)
Of course you can change class ie working class kid goes to uni and becomes a doctor.
I kind of disagree. I’ve been here around 30 years now, there is a concept of ‘the people of Scotland’ and I see myself as one of those. I might not have been born here but thats just an accident of birth, I chose Scotland, for many reasons, I will live here until I die, and I will contribute to society. Unlike many famous professional Scots who will ham up their Scottishness and do anything for the country other than pay tax and live here. And I’ve always been made welcome.
Agree with all of that.
Allt *insert name here* Burn anyone
Rabbie?
As in the right wing poet
A sweepy says – you can be one of “the people of scotland” ( those who9 live here and have made it their home) Without being one of”the scots people” – (the ethnic group)
Yes, that is my position. I've lived most of my life in Scotland, as a contributor and advocate for it and its people.
Burn is also a Northumbrian term, a Burn becomes a Beck once you cross the River Tees
Yup, I'm from East Cleveland, all becks there.
Of course you can change class ie working class kid goes to uni and becomes a doctor
That's new money, that doesn't count.
Val d´Aran. Valley of the valley.
I live near Epsom Downs which are very much up.
The Scottish Government has a New Scots Integration Strategy geared towards welcoming refugees/asylum seekers and economic migrants. I've lived here half my life and count myself as half-Scottish via my kids who were born here. My eldest has the accent. My youngest sounds more Polish on account of her friends.
We have place names on the west and the isles that are both Norse and Gaelic, so Eas Fors Waterfall translated is waterfall waterfall waterfall.
My eldest has the accent. My youngest sounds more Polish on account of her friends.
One of mine in the space of a couple of weeks was asked if he was Scottish by an English course mate, asked where in England he lived by his new Aberdonian flat mate, and told by a second flat mate they knew he was from Yorkshire, so where was he born.....
I kind of disagree. I’ve been here around 30 years now, there is a concept of ‘the people of Scotland’ and I see myself as one of those. I might not have been born here but thats just an accident of birth, I chose Scotland, for many reasons, I will live here until I die, and I will contribute to society. Unlike many famous professional Scots who will ham up their Scottishness and do anything for the country other than pay tax and live here. And I’ve always been made welcome.
+1
12 years for us.
Not forgetting Glen Michael
And Glenn Madeiros.
I always wonder if Loch Lochy was the first example of Boaty McBoatface style pisstake naming.
Burn is also a Northumbrian term, a Burn becomes a Beck once you cross the River Tees
I don't think you understood my point.
Allt Dubh Burn
Is Black Burn Burn for eg.
I came back after 31 years away, Mrs DB is from Kent and is proud to be Scottish. I’m more relieved that I’m no longer ‘English’, as my Scottish accent has returned but more importantly, is to be recognised as a Muilleach
Interesting stuff about nationality. I have lived half my life in London and half in Cardiff, more or less. I feel comfortable in both cities, so I am definitely both a Cardiffian and a Londoner (but not a cockney). Not sure I have strong feelings about being Welsh or English, but the wife and kids definitely do, that is, they have strong feelings that I am Welsh. (They obviously are Welsh as well.) If someone really pressed me on English or Welsh I would probably reject the notion that I had to choose and leave it up to them to figure it out. I guess I have a stronger connection with and knowledge of a greater part of Wales (having ridden bikes over a lot of it) than is the case with England, where I am definitely a Southerner. Hmm, not sure what the point is here, possibly something to do with regiional loyalty? I think in some countries regional (city, state, home village) loyalty is a bigger thing perhaps.
“Of course you can class ie working class kid goes to uni and becomes a doctor“
If this doctor retired and took a part time job in a local shop would they be working class again?
“Of course you can class ie working class kid goes to uni and becomes a doctor“
If this doctor retired and took a part time job in a local shop would they be working class again?
What if the doctor spoke with a Yorkshire accent, kept whippets and lived in a terrace?
Only if they were black and worked in McDonalds 🙂
Of course he would not - by having that degree and professional qualification he has become middle class
I've lived in Scotland for more than half my life - over 30 years.
Mrs SC is Canadian (but born in America) but my boys are Scottish.
I even bought a Scottish flag when Thump played for Scotland.
Also have to wear a kilt to my friend's wedding (he's Canadian and the bride is American - but they live here, and have done for decades, and are having a Scottish wedding). No idea how that will work out