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What colour is the RIND of an edam cheese?


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:28 am
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Trick question?

Is it cream (cheese coloured!) - the red just being a wax type coating.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:29 am
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Red innit


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:29 am
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Orange. The wax is red. Or red, and the cheese is orange. HTH


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:32 am
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Is it cream (cheese coloured!) – the red just being a wax type coating.

This.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:32 am
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I’m with Muffins man

But based what on no prior knowledge or research


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:33 am
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Muffin Man is correct.
A knock out round in which we had the only correct answer of yellow.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:35 am
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correct answer of yellow

BS

Edam is traditionally sold in flat-ended spheres with a pale yellow interior and a coat, or rind, of red paraffin wax.

From here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edam_cheese

Though I feel we need a blessed cheesemaker to confirm this either way


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:38 am
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You can buy edam in Borough Market without the red packaging.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:41 am
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Is it cream (cheese coloured!) – the red just being a wax type coating.

...it's good

Edam is traditionally sold in flat-ended spheres with a pale yellow interior and a coat, or rind, of red paraffin wax.

...but this is gouda

There are four types of cheese rinds. The first type is, of course, the non-edible variety, made from wax, bark, or paper. Every other type of rind is safe to eat..

https://www.foodandwine.com/news/cheese-rinds-facts


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:44 am
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The red wax isn't cheese rind, that would be underneath. It was originally added for export, it isn't part of the cheese and Edam can be bought without it.

Edit: It's like claiming that camembert rind is made of wood! Camembert does have a rind but it is made of cheese - not packaging!


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:46 am
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On the other hand, cheese rinds made from twigs, cloth, or wax — such as can be found on Edam or Gouda — are inedible and should, of course, be discarded.

From here


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:49 am
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On the other hand, cheese rinds made from twigs, cloth, or wax — such as can be found on Edam or Gouda — are inedible and should, of course, be discarded.

What about Yarg ?


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:53 am
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Think there is a significant difference between non-cheese bits stuck to the outside of the cheese during manufacture, and a wax dip before it's sold.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:55 am
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that would be underneath

I'm guessing you're not going to be shaken from this firmly held view, just because it's demonstrably wrong with the wax being universally referred tp as 'rind' by all sources I can find?

Jesus, I'm seeing 12 pages and three bans.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:55 am
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Think there is a significant difference between non-cheese bits stuck to the outside of the cheese during manufacture, and a wax dip before it’s sold.

<unleashes chatGPT>

Edam cheese typically has a red or orange rind. The color comes from a coating of annatto, a natural food dye derived from the seeds of the achiote tree, which is used to give the cheese its characteristic appearance.

revise your incorrect views, mortal.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 9:57 am
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The correct answer is whatever the question master says. This is rule 2 of the pub quiz, (rule 1 is the same as in every other facet of life) otherwise it'd be bloody carnage.

Does suck though when this means you loose by one point!


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:00 am
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Twigs and cloth can't be described as cheese rind unless you are using a bastard form of the English language.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:01 am
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unless you are using a bastard form of the English language.

we are indeed using english


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:03 am
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It's a pub quiz, the only answer that matters is the quizmasters, even is it's not correct.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:03 am
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But obviously not the King's English


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:04 am
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I don't know where they got twigs from but you can get cheese with a bark rind. Which then has packaging outside of that.

https://thecheeselady.co.uk/products/winslade

Packaging - the materials in which objects are wrapped before being sold (from here)

The wax rind on Edam is put on before the aging process, most edam is then wrapped in plastic packaging before being sold.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:08 am
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the only answer that matters is the quizmasters, even is it’s not correct.

Yup, that's the thing about quizzes. On QI 7% of facts in an episode will be false within a year.

Quizzes are fun but for the truth you have to come to stw.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:10 am
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Edam cheese typically has a red or orange rind. The color comes from a coating of annatto, a natural food dye derived from the seeds of the achiote tree, which is used to give the cheese its characteristic appearance.

Red wax, orange rind.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:11 am
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…but this is gouda

I fear this has been overlooked 👏👏


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:13 am
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I'd've done the same as the OP: thought it's an obvious trick question and gone with yellow (the under-rind? Doesn't really make sense). Surprised only one team did this but the internet disagrees. Harsh decision.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:13 am
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What about Yarg ?

I eat the nettles... or the wild garlic leaves when that's all that's available. Why not?

I'd have gone for yellowy orange in the pub question... no idea if that's right, or even if there's only one right answer... but "it depends on what you mean by the question" never goes down well in a pub quiz. Sup your pint.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:16 am
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when that’s all that’s available. Why not?

Because supermarkets sell other stuff you can eat?


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:19 am
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There are many different forms of Edam cheese.  IIRC some have wax, some do not and colours of the cheese and rind vary


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:24 am
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A knock out round in which we had the only correct wrong answer of yellow.

Fixed that for you 🙂

Unless you are saying you were marked as correct and were the only team to go through, thus vindicating your answer.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:25 am
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In a previous quiz it was a picture round of things that begin with A.
I am clever and know that the item pictured is an Amphicar. The prick wouldn't give me a point because he wanted Amphibious.
He wants the popular answers ,not the correct ones.
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Posted : 16/02/2023 10:27 am
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Sounds like you have a rubbish quiz master


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:32 am
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He wants the popular answers ,not the correct ones.

Here's a quiz question for you. Who said "the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result"?


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:34 am
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My disputes with quizmasters centre mostly on politics. Would you believe it?

My last dispute was at an Amnesty International quiz where it was falsely claimed that the UK had fixed term parliaments, I pointed out, correctly, that the legislation had been repealed but my team nevertheless lost a point.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:40 am
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Here’s a quiz question for you. Who said “the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result”?

You did!


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:40 am
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In a previous quiz it was a picture round of things that begin with A.
I am clever and know that the item pictured is A Bridge.

FTFY.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:46 am
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In our old pub quiz the answer would have been "The Pickwick Papers"


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 11:47 am
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I am clever and know that the item pictured is an Amphicar. The prick wouldn’t give me a point because he wanted Amphibious.
He wants the popular answers ,not the correct ones.

I hate that, being penalised for knowing an answer to a greater depth (ho ho) than most people. The worst offenders are when it's been written by someone who's not even present for the quiz and the quizmaster is someone else entirely. You submit an answer of "passenger locomotive" and are met with "no, that's wrong, it says 'train' on my sheet."

Countless times I've found myself or one of my nerdy friends knowing both the actual correct answer and the answer that they're probably expecting. Like, if the question asks which actor played the first James Bond then they're probably going to want Sean Connery as the answer. But the first actor to portray Bond in the cinema was a chap called Bob Simmons who was the guy in the 'gun barrel' title sequence in the early movies. And he wasn't the first Bond, Bob Holness voiced him in a radio show (another pub quiz trivia question winner) and there was someone else before him too I think. Sorry, what were the last three questions, I missed them? Something about football? I'm going for a wee.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 12:28 pm
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Did you know that Bob Holness played the saxophone solo on Gerry Rafferty's hit single Baker Street?


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 12:35 pm
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Do you know that Bob Holness played the saxophone solo on Gerry Rafferty’s hit single Baker Street?

No, but if you hum it I'll pick up the chords


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 12:44 pm
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As for the OP,

I'd have said yellow, for exactly the same reasoning. Having read the discussion here, it would seem that we'd both be wrong.

Really, it's a problematic question. The setter clearly thought they were being clever when they weren't half as clever as they thought they were.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 12:58 pm
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Did you know that Bob Holness played the saxophone solo on Gerry Rafferty’s hit single Baker Street?

I know that it's an urban myth, yes.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 12:59 pm
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The setter clearly thought they were being clever when they weren’t half as clever as they thought they were.

All they thought it was a nice easy question to warm up, like what colour is a fire engine.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 1:00 pm
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The fact that ernielynch had an argument at an amnesty international charity pub quiz is the least surprising thing i will ever read on STW.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 1:07 pm
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The fact that ernielynch had an argument at an amnesty international charity pub quiz in a room, on his own, is the least surprising thing i will ever read on STW.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 1:12 pm
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Though I feel we need a blessed cheesemaker to confirm this either way

Someone on here is a cheese maker. Or should that be fromagière?


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 1:14 pm
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All they thought it was a nice easy question to warm up, like what colour is a fire engine.

Is that an African or European fire engine?


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 1:26 pm
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In a previous quiz it was a picture round of things that begin with A.
I am clever and know that the item pictured is A Bridge Australia.

FTFY


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 1:37 pm
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I guess the least surprising bit was that I was right Blackflag 😉 She did offer her apologies when I provided evidence but I said that wasn't the issue - I wasn't interested in apologies just facts.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 2:26 pm
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Did you know that Bob Holness played the saxophone solo on Gerry Rafferty’s hit single Baker Street?

I know he didn’t. Raff Ravenscroft did.
I also know that John Lennon never said that Ringo was not only not a very good drummer, he wasn’t even the best drummer in The Beatles. It was a ‘joke’ by Jasper Carrot.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 10:37 pm
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Well, this is exactly the kind of question I like at my quizzes. It adds enough uncertainty that my drunken attempts at marking the quiz can be overlooked when i just give everyone a point anyway.

And it's probably better than my favourite final question of the quiz.

Q.12 - True or false, you got the answer to Question 1 of today's quiz correct?

(they don't get any answers to the quiz until the end)

It's quite hard to mark that one when there's 10 teams and you've been drinking craft beer for 3 hours.

And hang on a second ... who said you can't eat the cheesecloth? That's the best bit.


 
Posted : 17/02/2023 4:50 am
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This is my cheese rind. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My cheese rind is an orangey yellow colour (or maybe red). It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life


 
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mmmmm, cheese.


 
Posted : 17/02/2023 7:29 am
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I had a long and at risk of being a prick, heated argument with the quizmaster that wouldn't accept he was wrong. The round was iconic sports moments and he insisted that warne bowling Strauss was the ball of the century. He showed the clip and the question was along the lines of "we all know who was bowling but who was the batter?"

I got the point anyway but had to insist Gatting was the ball of the century, 12 years earlier. I'd have left it at that but the **** then insisted that was 'the ball of the last century' which to date is still the only time I've heard it called that.

So with no points on offer I couldn't drop it.

Embarrassingly it was my wife's friend's husband and this was only a light relief quiz as part of a family and friends summer barbecue for her birthday.

They divorced a couple of years later, not because of me or his lack of sporting knowledge but because he was shagging a work colleague, the slimy two faced liar and cheat.


 
Posted : 17/02/2023 7:59 am
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It was a ‘joke’ by Jasper Carrot.

...who by the way is Ricky Gervais's dad. 😐


 
Posted : 17/02/2023 8:17 am
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...which made it all the more weird when he suggested he would stay at Dawn's house if he got off with...got off [I]at[/I] the wrong bus stop


 
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Don't get me started about pub quizzes....too late....

We once entered one where your team name had to be topical, so at the time John Paull 2 was dropping off his perch so, at my suggestion, we went with "The Pope Must Die", a reference to the Robbie Coltrane film. However the other big news item at the time was Jacko's child molestation trial so every other team without exception made some kind of paedo joke. Sooo....Guess who got a bollocking and points deducted?

Quiz masters: bastards. The lot of 'em.


 
Posted : 17/02/2023 8:44 am
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I was once a quiz master for the monthly quiz at my local trade union social club after I once carelessly suggested that having a regular quiz night would be a good idea.

Expecting of course that someone else would be organising it I hadn't thought it through with the obvious consequence - it was decided that it was indeed an excellent idea and apparently why I would be organising them.

The questions I used were actually supplied regularly by the brewer which meant that whilst they might not have been always topical it at least meant that I could refuse to accept responsibility for them.

It is always entertaining to watch people get worked up over trivia when they lose points, and also radiating smugness and pride when they get points awarded.

And despite my initial reluctance the sense of power that came with knowing that people aren't allowed to argue with you was rewarding.

Quiz masters: bastards. The lot of ’em.

Can't argue with that.


 
Posted : 17/02/2023 9:21 am
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We had someone correct the quiz master once.

I mean, it was pretty unlikely that the author of the book that the question was about would have actually been sat in there with some friends having a few beers and doing his local quiz.

But what do you know, there he was.

Did give the quiz master some material for jokes for a month or two.

"In Homer's Odyssey, Homer's not in tonight is he?... No, Good. Right, in Homers Odyssey, who was... blah blah."


 
Posted : 17/02/2023 9:28 am
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We once were asked "what year was the QE eleven launched?"


 
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