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Certainly an interesting article and a valuable insight into Singletrack. It definitely encouraged me to renew my subscription considering how much time i spend lurking here.

Wonder how long before the first ‘everything on teh interwebz should be free, you are lucky to have my eyes glance your content’ whin.... I mean, post.

I think the Premium membership, digital anyway, is under priced!

<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;">This magazine and site mean a lot to me and I would hate to see it all vanish. I'd pay more to help keep it going. No, I'm not well off but I don't drink much, or smoke so I can indulge myself a little with Singletrack.</span>

Yes, the moaning will follow of course as said above.

I’m not going to moan, but this seemed a bit strange to me.

There is a business to be run that focuses purely on the forum..........But the thing is, we really aren’t interested in that business.

I am a forum user (who generates ad revenue) but never reads or buys the magazine and rarely reads any other content on the main site

As much as I like this place, I’m not really being woo’d into subscribing to support it with comments like that 😔

I suppose they're being honest but I also think a forum adds credibility to web stories reviewing(cough, advertising) bikes and bike bits.

I am a forum user (who generates ad revenue) but never reads or buys the magazine and rarely reads any other content on the main site

As much as I like this place, I’m not really being woo’d into subscribing to support it with comments like that 

Pretty much that. I don't begrudge paying for what I use (I've previously cajoled quite a few forumites into subscribing) but neither do I think I should be subsidising what I don't. I cant see why a seperate subscription couldn't be introduced.

Of course, that's before we get into the "we're all advertising fodder" debate.😁

From the article, "We don’t pay a lot but we try and make sure we have fun and everyone has a pension"

Isn't having a pension law, or am I missing something, do STW go above & beyond what the law requires?

FWIW I subscribe but never read the virtual mags & I don't post much so I guess I get little for my subs, I'll continue to do so though, I like STW & it's one of the few forums I bother looking at as it still has fewer trolls/knobs than most.

Cheers.

PS, I emailed STW years ago when they wen't digital & said that the £1 trail would get you access to all the previous mags/ content, I thought it was a silly decision to make as why would anyone who wants digital mag content sign up for a year/decades when £1 every year gets it all albeit at a slower pace. Ho hum.

I am a forum user (who generates ad revenue) but never reads or buys the magazine and rarely reads any other content on the main site

As much as I like this place, I’m not really being woo’d into subscribing to support it with comments like that

I know what you're saying but i too think they're just being honest. Running a forum is more of an IT job.

The thing about being self-employed / a small business is that you're Following Your Passion™, and this mitigates the fact that you earn cock all and work until midnight half the week. I've done it too, and also been presented with directions that would have earned me more money, should i have wanted to go that way.

But if you're going to be doing something that isn't your passion, because it earns money, you might as well just get a job, where you'll get a salary and paid leave and sick pay and clock off at 5.30. Otherwise you get the worst of both worlds!

So yeah perhaps it doesn't look too good to be so blunt. But I would probably be thinking the same. And it's not like he said the forum isn't important - just that they consider it a part of the mix, and wouldn't want it to become the whole thing.

I know what you’re saying but i too think they’re just being honest.

Which is fair enough, as I said, I’m not moaning, just pointing out that if a business is trying to raise funds, this might not be the wisest of ways to approach the task. 👍

The ads don’t generate enough alone to cover the costs, they don’t want to increase the amount of ads on the forum as that’s not how they work and not what people want. Already the GDPR rules are showing a significant effect on the already low amount they produced hence why they decided to be open about their business and the effect it’s had.

I don't envy them, it must be really rough watching something you've built up slowly die away. I don't really like the mag content, it's not my thing and for news and reviews etc other sites do it bigger, better and usually sooner. Even if they had a dedicated fundraiser for the forum, without the younger generations signing up (which I assume they won't as there are more modern apps aimed at them than you can shake a stick at), it has a limited amount of life left in it. Think they have missed the boat in terms of keeping up with the way things are going.

Seems perfectly reasonable statement to me. If it was my business I’d be scratching my head looking for other income streams too, the forum is an aside to a press based production company selling content.

STW isn’t the only business model seeking to ratify its structure and strategy.

Good on em’ for making thier thoughts public I say.

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I'm and ex-P subscriber. And an ex-Print buyer. But still an avid forum lurker, occasional poster. Here is my view...

Mountain biking in my world has become less important. I've not touched my (many) mountain bikes for years, so almost all of the mag, articles, are of no interest. That being said, when I do occasionally leaf through a copy, i still get a buzz from the quality photos etc. Nowadays, all my riding is road or tour, with tiny amount of 'gravel'.

I note that the forum, in part at least, seems to have matched my cycling progression. A "what tyre..." thread is equally likely to be a summer 25mm race tyre, as it is to be a 2 1/2 inch muddy trail one.

So, my question is, why doesn't the mag follow this lead? I'm not suggesting changing tack, lock stock and barrel adjuster. Just a bit of non-mtb print content. So, say one article an edition, about touring (you can call it bikepacking if you like). Or a road based route through the mountains that we're more familiar with the singletrack trails in. Keep all the singletrack heritage, style, content, just add a piece or two to appeal to the greater cycling (read forum) audience.

Just a thought.

Suprised stw hasn't diversified a bit more on content.. they run enough polls to figure out what their readers are riding, thinking, eating, wearing,  etc..

Sometimes you need to make a bold leap and be pioneers.. I dont even bother to regularly check current online content since I stopped my printed subscription

So, my question is, why doesn’t the mag follow this lead? I’m not suggesting changing tack, lock stock and barrel adjuster. Just a bit of non-mtb print content. So, say one article an edition, about touring (you can call it bikepacking if you like). Or a road based route through the mountains that we’re more familiar with the singletrack trails in. Keep all the singletrack heritage, style, content, just add a piece or two to appeal to the greater cycling (read forum) audience.

Just a thought.

You should have seen the vitriol they got when they put in a small supplement about CX bikes!

Problem with trying to appeal to all possible readers is that you invariably turn off at least half the readership immediately. Better to do one discipline well than try and cover CX/bikepacking/MTB/touring/gravelroad/enduro all in one, you end up with a mag that has lots of small diluted articles each one of which only appeals to a small sub-group of an already relatively niche group.

Well, if thing's aren't working, you don't carry on doing the same things. If the Mag is struggling then maybe cloudnines suggestion could be the thing to save it. Or, you know, branch out into electronics  🤦

I was a subscriber for a year or so, then i cancelled as i found most of the articles and reviews to be pretty niche, coupled with water colour paintings by the editors girlfriend (or similar) instead of photos  for certain articles were really not what i wanted to see.

Then i read that article on the front page and resubscribed as i think the mag deserves to survive, but if we're throwing suggestions out - could we have more mainstream bike reviews ( in addition to the niche stuff), less hipster content etc. Just change the ratio of content to be a little more mainstream , a little less 'right on'. And definitely no watercolour paintings instead of photos.

Question: you may have already considered it, but if not, would you consider a micro-payment model at all? Or even just an opportunity to donate funds to those inclined who already have a sub and want to help more, or don't have a sub and want to help at all?

I'm also not going to moan.

Shame he wasn't more forthcoming during the upgrade debacle, I cancelled by subscription over the way it was handled and general contempt towards forum users (which the article does nothing to dispel).

Question: you may have already considered it, but if not, would you consider a micro-payment model at all? Or even just an opportunity to donate funds to those inclined who already have a sub and want to help more, or don’t have a sub and want to help at all?

There was. Nobody did

I really wonder how many folk read the magazine compared to use the forum and what % this is.  My feeling is the forum users will outnumber those on the rest of the website enormously.  I only use the forum, never anything else on STW

Yes there was an almost complete lack of info during the upgrade.

Why has the data protection wotsit cost so much money?

Shame he wasn’t more forthcoming during the upgrade debacle, I cancelled by subscription over the way it was handled and general contempt towards forum users (which the article does nothing to dispel).

Same here.

I was a subscriber because

1. The ads slowed the forum down so much on my slow internet that it was almost unusable.  So I subscribed to get an ad free experience as promised.  But then I got logged out (and redirected to p0rn in the shop, in front of a customer) so many times during the "upgrade" that I was seeing ads all the time anyway.

2. To get access to the back catalogue to see bike and kit reviews from years ago (in my job this is useful) and read the trail guides and routes etc as promised when I took out the subscription.  But even now, 5 months on from the "upgrade" I can only go back to issue 77.

3. To support an organisation which has been incredibly important to me over the years.  But the way long term supporters have been treated in the last 5 months has made me question whether they deserve my support.

I really hope this site continues to exist successfully, but I will only re-subscribe when I feel like my support is justified.

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And you are still selling

• Access to the entire back catalog of issues of Singletrack dating back to 2001

Despite only having issue 77 and newer available.  Advertising standards agency anyone????

But then I got logged out (and redirected to p0rn in the shop, in front of a customer)

Was there ever an apology for that? (Not sure why I'm asking, but...)

As an aside, when you have level-headed forumites like footflaps posting what he just did, I'd suggest something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

p.s This is not a moan. Just an observation.

But then I got logged out (and redirected to p0rn in the shop, in front of a customer)

Was there ever an apology for that? (Not sure why I’m asking, but…)

Of course not. An email from Tom asking what happened, which I replied to.  Then silence.  Not even an acknowledgement of my reply.

I was a regular buyer of the print mag for years before I became a subscriber. It's a small business operating in a challenging marketplace and, in my view, should be applauded for the honesty in article.

There's nothing wrong in an appeal for support - think Geldof at Live Aid.....give us your money.

It seems to me that of the forum's prolific contributors there are more members than subscribers - is that a 'free ride'?; I guess that's a fact of life with online forums (fora) but I can't avoid thinking that post-a-lot members who, I accept, can be entertaining/provocative/tedious and possible trolls should consider making a £ contribution for using the forum.

I like the look and feel of the mag - having spent time years ago in print/publishing - and appreciate the production quality; the content, less so but that's down to personal preferences but some earlier comments

I'm with Poopscoop ^^^ in that I would pay more if that helped support STW.

I will happily donate a (smallish) sum into the pot; why? It's the right thing to do; supports an SME, recognises honesty in the other party, recognises the value (by any definition) of the forum. So Mark/Chipps - is there a means of doing this?

To finish - a question for STW towers and/or mods....how many subscribers are there (print only/digi only/both), how many subscribers and members in total on the website, what is the split between subscribers and members on the website.

is that a ‘free ride’?; I guess that’s a fact of life with online forums (fora) but I can’t avoid thinking that post-a-lot members who, I accept, can be entertaining/provocative/tedious and possible trolls should consider making a £ contribution for using the forum.

Its an advertising revenue generating “free ride.”

I don’t use adblockers and my page impressions generate revenue.

I’m happy with that level of contribution to be honest

There’s nothing wrong in an appeal for support – think Geldof at Live Aid…..give us your money.

Im fairly certain that starving kids in Africa is a slightly more worthwhile cause than keeping a bicycle magazine afloat!

It seems to me that of the forum’s prolific contributors there are more members than subscribers – is that a ‘free ride’?;

Providing free content for STW to monetise aren’t we?

It’s more of a quid pro quo deal innit.

Why not charge folk to post in the classifieds? There must be some kind of subscription model that could monetize it. Not the "please donate if you do well in a sale" that doesn't work.

As an aside, when you have level-headed forumites like footflaps posting what he just did, I’d suggest something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

I made almost exactly the same comment to someone except instead of footflaps I used you as an example of a voice of reason.

Just thought that might tickle you.  🙂

I've just subscribed (print and digital) on the basis of this appeal.

Anyone else find it strange that they've got such a successful forum - containing all manner of insights/analytics into their audience's proclivities, and yet are having difficulty producing content that the same user base would find interesting enough to purchase?

Apparently Facebook swung elections for Trump/Brexit because they new what character from ducktales I most sympathised with, but the forum data can't raise enough to keep a handful of bike Journos in hobnobs?

I'm sure everyone would happily give STW all manner of personal details - we all routinely overshare on the forum anyway.  What do you want to know?

From a simplistic perspective - perhaps STW should start seeking more of a compromise between the things that they want to write about, vs the things their audience will pay to read.  Maybe overly simplistic - but it seems to be the core of the issue.

Keeping a lookout for articles on "what coffee machine/axe/woodburner" and "can I cut down my neighbor's leylandii?"

Forum users create content that STW then make money from via advertising.  without contributors to the forum there is no content and no income

I'll echo the comment from@footflaps too.

All a bit contradictory. People are complicated, businesses are not, but people involved in their businesses like to think it's the business that's complicated. It isn't.

Im still a bit confused as to whether the forum is a drain on resources or an asset to the business. If the former and it's not in line with the companys' mojo, then sell it off.

I cancelled my subscription during the downdate. I’ve been thinking of renewing it, but can’t bloody find out how on the mobile site.

I would:

a) get rid of the chat secrions keep it all subject related.

b) Encourage sponsors to interact with member offers through the forum.

c) Get rid of the mods(see a) they will no longer be needed

d) Make content desicions based on analytics not personal preference.

e) Go heavy on subscriber benefits.

They just need to be more commercial, oh and stop moaning, thats what bike shops owners do just before they close down.

The forum issues have settled down a bit so I am going to renew my p

Here you go Funk mind it too me a few minutes too which is a bit silly.

https://singletrackmag.com/subscribe/

So, my question is, why doesn’t the mag follow this lead? I’m not suggesting changing tack, lock stock and barrel adjuster. Just a bit of non-mtb print content. So, say one article an edition, about touring (you can call it bikepacking if you like). Or a road based route through the mountains that we’re more familiar with the singletrack trails in. Keep all the singletrack heritage, style, content, just add a piece or two to appeal to the greater cycling (read forum) audience.

Sod that. I've subscribed since the early days, and I'll continue to do so, but if it goes all gravel I'll give it a miss. I understand why folks enjoy that type of riding, but it's extremely dull in print.

Here you go Funk mind it too me a few minutes too which is a bit silly.

Thanks Drac

Yeah who wants to read Road riding, it's singletrack not singleroad.

Nobeerinthefridge

...but if it goes all gravel I’ll give it a miss. I understand why folks enjoy that type of riding, but it’s extremely dull in print.

It was that that sort of content that drew me in originally.

Articles on actually going somewhere offroad on your bike on natural trails. I agree it can be dull, but it doesn't have to be.

What I look for in those sort of articles is detail on the sort of information needed to replicate the ride, and lots of photos of the scenery to see if it looks worthwhile.

I have zero interest in riding loops on groomed trails with berms, wooden features, drops, exciting descents etc, although I am interested in the technical side of those bikes, and admire the skills of those who can do so well.

Probably could be summed up by a preference primarily for recreational offroad travelling as opposed to athletic riding.

I have been known to do the odd race, but I rarely read anything about racing unless I know the participants.

I like technical articles but these days they are mainly advertorial PR reprocessed with no serious analysis.

I like the comment suggestions of digital only along with annual / bi annual mag books with some extra exclusive articles and / or longer extended versions of articles with extra photos etc.

You should have seen the vitriol they got when they put in a small supplement about CX bikes!

I enjoyed that, and would be happy to read more.  Articles on road biking for MTB'ers would even be fine.  However I also remember years ago Dirt included some BMX stuff, which I thought was a waste of time, and put me off the mag a bit.  Not everyone would like the diversity, that's for sure.

Shame he wasn’t more forthcoming during the upgrade debacle, I cancelled by subscription over the way it was handled and general contempt towards forum users (which the article does nothing to dispel).

Difficult to argue with this.  Put it this way, the 'attitude' doesn't do anything to promote charity towards STW.  The 'active' mods don't help either, and are contributing to the slow death.

Numerous forums have the means to only allow acces to the sales section via a minimum number of posts and/or subscriptions.

its not hard.

That alone would pay for the forum many times over.

This place makes out its so difficult to run it’s laughable to those of us who frequent/moderate on other forums

Imagine STW is a trail centre (just a little tongue in cheek)

Cougar is in reception, she's not alone, the place is humming, the people not drinking coffee from thermos flasks outside are helping themselves from her machine as they hang around chatting while Cougar fixes their laptops between answering the phone, handing out route maps, putting plaster on grazed knees and keeping up a constant heart massage on someone who's probably dead till the ambulance arrives

Chipps is out riding a flash bike that he borrowed off the bike rack of a T6 in the car park. The bike owner will never notice, it's only there for decoration and the bar is open till after dark.

Drac is in the bar serving his following of the owners of all those Focus STs, Beamers, and Tsomethings in the car park. MTBers aren't really welcome in the bar, dirty smelly argumenative things they are, they sit outside with their themos flasks or scrounge a coffee in reception.

Will is in the bike shop trying to sell a 1400e fork to the only customer who came in for an inner tube for her kid's bike. She's now not sure if she wants the inner tube as it appears non of the guys know how to fit it and they don't sell cheap pumps or tyre levers, best ask one of the MTBers chatting outside or ask in reception. The workshop door got stuck and as no-one had the mechanical nouse to free it no-one has been in there for months. The huddle in the corner; Andi, Anthony etc and some reps are discussing which top end bike to give pride of place on the display.

Hannah is out riding with some MTBers, she's been given some more helmets to test so is heading for the biggest jump on the black.

The office has a "do not disturb" sign hanging on the door so no-one goes in or has any idea what goes on in there.

On a serious note to STW and all who sail in her: all the best with evolving the busines model to appeal to both the clients who pay for the advertising and the clients who read the pages, and finding a compromise between their needs which means pandering to one doesn't alienate the other.

Imagine STW is a trail centre

a load of folk (who don’t pay to use the car park/facilities) protesting loudly about a new red graded trail being built in place of a blue one that they’ve been riding for donkeys years?

Cougar is in reception, she’s not alone

err...

a load of folk (who don’t pay to use the car park/facilities) protesting loudly about a new red graded trail being built in place of a blue one that they’ve been riding for donkeys years?

Imagine STW is a trail centre (just a little tongue in cheek)

....meanwhile, in the car park , Edukator is giving a lecture on how easy it is to perform a perfect J-turn in a Winnebago without knocking over a nice glass of red with the headstock of your vintage guitar.

No one is really paying attention. 😉

They've worked out the people behind the "do not disturb" sign just regraded the old blue trail to red rather than fix all the potholes and braking stutter bumps, and officialised an unrideable section around a fallen tree rather than pay a lumberjack to remove the tree.

again in jest - and it was too obvious an answer not to type

edit: and I see Perchy has taken it in the spirit it was typed. 😉

Downtrodden, overworked, multitasking, the-business-would-fall-apart-without-them receptionists are always female, Steve.

receptionists are always female, Steve.

Tsk...

My favourite bit about the upgrade is where several forumites who work in IT (who knew!?) offered their help for free....ignored.

On a more serious not...

If you want our money tell us when we get the mag archive back and a timetable on the forum fixes. As much as people want this place to succeed and have invested in it for quite some time now that is part of the exchange of monies for goods and services.

My subscription lapsed when my card expired and I wasn't fussed enough to renew because I found the magazine repetitive so had stopped reading it. I certainly think a bit more diveristy wouldnt be a bad thing. I can't see the issue with bringing in some of the grit.cx content to the main magazine. Likewise covering a bit of MTB racing. It might not be right up everyones street but there must be enough interest to read about them, otherwise how do regular newspapers survive - assuming we don't all have direct interest in becoming a lying, embezzling politician or a murderer.

Drac is in the bar serving his following of the owners of all those Focus STs, Beamers, and Tsomethings in the car park. MTBers aren’t really welcome in the bar, dirty smelly argumenative things they are, they sit outside with their themos flasks or scrounge a coffee in reception.

No Ford owners thanks.

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without the younger generations signing up (which I assume they won’t as there are more modern apps aimed at them than you can shake a stick at), it has a limited amount of life left in it. Think they have missed the boat in terms of keeping up with the way things are going.

My favourite bit about the upgrade is where several forumites who work in IT (who knew!?) offered their help for free….ignored.

I liked that bit where there was an open invite to the office for IT types to come along...ignored.

It is not know why, but emus cannot walk backwards.

Can't or won't?

I'd agree with ferrals. I was for cancelling the lot as the mag hasn't done much for me for a long time as it is I'm switching to digital. The last memorable article was one on the Tour Divide and I think that was a while back. I am a fan of the new look though and the photography is exceptional but the content is very samey. As a habitual magazine purchaser in the past when this happens it's normally time for a change at the top and I really can't help but feel the mags range of interest is narrowing gradually all the time. As for the brouhaha with the CX thing iirc the mag had several articles in the same issue (?), just drip feeding some other stuff would be nice,  funnily enough the inclusion of e bikes seems to be less contentious than the CX/gravel stuff.

Just renewed mine, I was digital only but i have come to hate reading things on a screen! so good old paper copy for me!

I bought a P to get rid of the ads. I've tried to read the digital mags but they don't work that well on the phone and to be honest from giving the mags a skim when I see them it doesn't feel like I'm missing much.  It feels like it's moved away from it's original ethos that drew me to it in the district place to become a slightly higher quality MBR alike.

I picked up a copy of cranked in whsmith after getting stuck in a station and subscribed based on that. For me it is a far more engaging magazine because it stays away from much of the MTB magazine tropes.  The longer articles work better and the good quality paper and photos hold my attention better. It feels like a more robust version of the stw of old.

The front-page is slow for news so I tend to go elsewhere for that.  The stw powers that be might not be excited by it but the forum is the only USP they have at the moment, and that's being made a mess of right now.

Been a subscriber for a few years but have been thinking of cancelling recently.  The last few mags have been pretty much longer story articles which I've always struggled to read and to be honest, I just don't have the attention span to read those type of articles anymore #millenial

I certainly think a bit more diveristy wouldnt be a bad thing

They get enough stick when including a little bit of CX, scuba would be a step too far.

I quite enjoyed the extra CX bits. I had a P for a fair while and in the end it was the payment card lapsing that did for it. I'd been considering dropping it for a while- probably three things combined. I realised that when a new issue turned up I still hadn't read most of the previous one, I got tired of being lectured about e-bikes and I started to think 'I've read this before' when reading articles.

In the end it turned out that while I couldn't summon up the effort to unsubscribe, I also couldn't find it to sign back up again.

When they tried the CX suff in the mag, it was a relatively long time ago (was it not?). The cycling industry and the forum dwellers have generally become more interested with CX and Gravel riding since then (no not everyone, before you reject that comment based on your own personal view), so I don't think it would be as contentious to try it a little bit here and there now.

Your other problem is that many forum dwellers are very opinionated and also very black and white in their views. Any changes or differences in opinion are very hard to deliver without a tirade of abuse and negativity from what is in all probability a small percentage. This might or might not be a problem.

Talking of CX, has anyone else recently had a visit to STW redirected to STW/gritcx? I'm not averse to it - top story at the moment is a new Ti bike, so even if it was a recumbent DH unicycle I'd be interested - but just intrigued to see the broader focus.

As it is if you haven’t sold within a couple of days then you probably aren’t going to sell at all

or you're just asking too much. anything reasonably priced goes without too much bother ( not that i've sold masses ). anything not priced reasonably ends up being re-listed over and over and over again. some folk just don't get the message.

In relation to the back issues a couple of people have mentioned,

The magazines need to be converted to a format the new forum understands (I don't know the technical details here) and this is a manual process.  It's an ongoing concern but obviously STW is kinda busy just at the moment for some reason.  They'll get done over time.

 It’s an ongoing concern but obviously STW is kinda busy just at the moment for some reason.  They’ll get done over time.

My point was motley don't try and sell what you don't have, be honest about it and keep people informed. Not sure how much info actually was contained in Marks message, I've read it twice now and it doesn't really tell us whats happening apart from wanting more cash from people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b42w9y

"Ethan Zuckerman was one of the early architects of user generated content on the internet in the mid nineties. He created the code that lead to the pop up advert which he still regrets today but Aleks finds out not for the reasons you would think."

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or you’re just asking too much. anything reasonably priced goes without too much bother ( not that i’ve sold masses ). anything not priced reasonably ends up being re-listed over and over and over again. some folk just don’t get the message.

The magazines need to be converted to a format the new forum understands (I don’t know the technical details here) and this is a manual process.  It’s an ongoing concern but obviously STW is kinda busy just at the moment for some reason.  They’ll get done over time.

That kinda sums up what is funky about STW at the mo.

It’s an ongoing concern but obviously STW is kinda busy just at the moment for some reason

Thinking of more obscure in-jokes for fresh goods friday?

For the For Sale/Wanted ads

Rotorburn do it well by firstly making it harder to post an ad so stopping spammers

https://www.rotorburn.com/forums/index.php?forums/complete-bikes.33/

https://www.rotorburn.com/forums/index.php?forums/downhill-bikes.104/

https://www.rotorburn.com/forums/index.php?threads/for-sale-template-you-must-use-one.49148/

Categorising the for sale sections, enforcing a template to make sure you have enough info to actually sell the item and modding the hell out of it!

Most buying and Selling is now done through facebook groups 😉

The magazines need to be converted to a format the new forum understands (I don’t know the technical details here) and this is a manual process.  It’s an ongoing concern but obviously STW is kinda busy just at the moment for some reason.  They’ll get done over time.

If that's just a sheer number/resources thing then would it be possible to have someone write up the process and get some willing volunteers to take 1 or 2 of the old files and re-do them?