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Have tested positive for Covid again, despite 5 rounds of inoculations. I know it doesn't work like that, but it feels like the cover jabs are a pretty piss poor vaccine.
Manifesting itself a thumping head cold and aching joints, but the worst thing is I'm persona non grata around the house because daughter is on immunosuppressants and partner's parents are 80+. This is a great inconvenience to me because it means I can't watch Netflix on the telly and the Tour de France Unchained which I am really enjoying.
So unfair!
A colleague has just wound up in hospital. Cycles everyday. Covid caused myocarditis. Very poorly. He thought it was just a cold and was racking up some miles on the bike. Can't do any cardio for at least 3 months until they review his recovery. He's finding his HR shoots right up even with slight exercise.
Sorry to hear that op and hope your feel better asap.
Don't go into the political threads or you'll get the financial variant, the rone.😉
(Sorry rone, couldn't resist!)
the good ol' JN. 1 variant
COVID sucks.
We’ve all had it again as well. Nearly two weeks and I’m still feeling ropey. Tiredness is the worst part. Even going for a short walk in the morning puts me on the sofa in the afternoon for a nap.
On the other hand my guitar practice is really coming on as I’m not out doing anything else.
We both got it in Convert towers a couple of months back. Both were COVID virgins. Presented in very different ways - I got ill first but ended up in hospital having an ECG and an MRI. My heart went nuts with resting HR down to about 30 and missing beats. Dizzy and confused, struggling to talk. At no point did anyone think to test for COVID until my wife got it more conventionally and tested herself....then they tested me. Odd - but then my mum ended up in intensive care over Christmas with it with not dissimilar symptoms to more (magnified again I guess because of age) so maybe someone should have thought of that sooner. I was in no state to do the thinking.
It seems we do go down with it differently from a genetic predisposition perspective
Get well soon OP.
A colleague has just wound up in hospital. Cycles everyday. Covid caused myocarditis.
IIRC, Covid increases the risk of cardiac problems by something like 5 times for 6 months after infection. Immune markers take even longer to return to pre-infection levels even in healthy people with mild infections. Still lots we're learning about the long term effects of covid. I'm not sure the need for proper rest is emphasised enough.
Sorry to hear you're down with it again. I find it so interesting how everyone gets it in varying levels of intensity. I know that I've had it twice and both times it was less severe than a common cold, barely knew I had it. Strange old world.
Kinda think I've got something low level and nasty, feel lethargic with a pounding headache for a week. Trying to kickstart my exercise routine is difficult.
My OH has it, I was negative yesterday but awaiting the inevitable positive result to follow
feels like shrodingers covid..
It was going round the last production I was working on and I was doing my best to dodge it becuase we wanted to grab a quick holiday before my next tranche of work - but my partner came down with it instead and has been ill for just over a week - all the classic covid symptoms plus two days of vomiting which was novel.
I seem to have not picked it up though so maybe my last vaccine is still holding up.
We both have carer roles for older elderly parents and up until last August we still getting vaccines thats been suspended for carers on the latests round of boosters so we didn't qualify for the ones this spring.
He’s finding his HR shoots right up even with slight exercise.
This was me dec-may last year walking to the shops was 160+ bpm - was previously running 22min 5k and running 30+ km at a time ..... Doctors response in March after X-rays was - I need to be more active. They just don't know what's going on yet post COVID
Boss was very ill with it last month, a couple of folk at the cycle club last night were saying they are struggling after a "cold" in the last 4-6 weeks which I suspect may not have just been a cold. A friend is in Canada visiting and family and has had to stay an extra week at least after their sister tested positive for the first time, and is waiting to see if she also gets it rather than risking bringing it home.
It is still an absolute bastard, does seem to impact fit/active people quite badly if they try and push through it.
MrsDoris has it, picked it up on a flight last week. She's banished to the front room! Which means no telly for me. But all the chores.
We're trying very hard for me not to get it, because I still haven't recovered from round 1 in 2020, and when I got it again last year, it sent me most of the way back to square one.
Interestingly, I was on the same flight, and we shared a bed the next two nights, but I didn't get it - wondering if it's because my last vaccine was 7/8 months ago and hers was at least 2 years back?
A colleague has just wound up in hospital. Cycles everyday. Covid caused myocarditis. Very poorly.
This was my neighbour too. He was a keen triathlete, COVID caused myocarditis and he's not been able to run ever since - coming up to four and a half years now. He can lift weights again, but has never been able to run.
I don't have myocarditis but I do have CFS and still can't ride my bike 4 years on ☹️
had to stay an extra week at least after their sister tested positive for the first time, and is waiting to see if she also gets it rather than risking bringing it home.
Good on her. Back in 2022 we extended a holiday because mrsD had COVID out there. Everyone I spoke to afterwards was like "Fair play, I would probably have just flown home anyway".
Yes, and that's partly why it's still ruining lives everywhere, you selfish shits
Yes, and that’s partly why it’s still ruining lives everywhere, you selfish shits
My oh called her work after she tested positive and was just told to come in anyway🤔
I’m getting grief for sleeping in the spare room, which tbf seems a bit pointless given there is no other social distancing going on in the house.
I suspect I had it a few weeks ago, was pretty rough for a few days and then OK, until last weekend trail building when the slightest effort left me breathless and fatigued.
I’m getting grief for sleeping in the spare room, which tbf seems a bit pointless given there is no other social distancing going on in the house.
Viral load is still a thing. Lying in bed next to someone at peak contagion means you're more likely to get a bigger dose, and possibly get moderately rather than mildly ill. Obviously, if you're still sharing a living room for hours on end, or snuggling up on the sofa, it may be a pointless exercise!
Has anyone on here ended up with long covid, after an infection within a few months of their last covid vaccine jab?
We suspect we had it again in March, both of us already have long covid and we were so achy and extremely fatigued for weeks.
The marginal gains I had been making with my fitness through cycling over the winter were hit for six and I'm still doing very little that gets my heart rate over ~130bpm.
Another work colleague has extreme fatigue from Covid infection over two years ago. He still can't cycle much at all.
My bout of Covid caused my diabetes according to my diabetic team, seen it happen loads apparently, I know exactly where I got it, all because someone flouted the rules, oh well.
The current strains of corona have mutated so much to evade the antibodies the vaccines made the body produce, so their protection is questionable at best today and also the antibody levels wane quite quickly. Getting more and more vaccines will not prevent anyone from getting it again, anymore.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2206576 This already in 2022 -
"These data show that the BA.2.12.1, BA.4, and BA.5 subvariants substantially escape neutralizing antibodies induced by both vaccination and infection. Moreover, neutralizing antibody titers against the BA.4 or BA.5 subvariant and (to a lesser extent) against the BA.2.12.1 subvariant were lower than titers against the BA.1 and BA.2 subvariants, which suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 omicron variant has continued to evolve with increasing neutralization escape. "
And the virus has continued to develop in this direction.
The modern strains of the virus are much less susceptible to the antibodies, and it is also possible that at some point they will completely evade the vaccine antibodies.
"The first study of health risks from repeat infections was published last November. A team of researchers led by Ziyad Al-Aly, a clinical epidemiologist at Washington University, in St. Louis, and his colleagues concluded that reinfected people are twice as likely to die and three times as likely to be hospitalized with COVID than those infected only once, regardless of their vaccination status."
So repeat infections tend to cause more problems, no matter how many vaccinations one has had.
My oh called her work after she tested positive and was just told to come in anyway
Currently policy at work is if you have COVID and feel well enough to work you should attend but wear a mask. NHS is my employer 🤷♂️
Even going for a short walk in the morning puts me on the sofa in the afternoon for a nap.
I might start using this excuse. 😉
Historic moment for me - first positive test, although I probably had it the January before last. Lost count of how many boosters I've had (dodgy immune system), last one was about six weeks ago.
Both of us ill with a snotty cold, bit of a temperature, nothing too dramatic, some middle-ear inflammation in her case, but it gives me the heads up to rest properly so I hopefully don't do any damage, and obviously to not mix with folk.
Do they think things will normalise in future?
Only reason I ask is my ongoing blood sugar levels (hb1a?) increased massively after I got covid, I'm now right on border of prediabetic. Nothing else changed lifestyle wise so I'm convinced it was the rona
Still showing as negative. Its a bit crap as I'm sure I'll get it so I'm avoiding my folks and any rigorous exercise in the mean time
Started to feel unwell Thursday night, full on flu symptoms and a positive test Saturday morning. Never felt this ill before. Could barely stand Saturday and Sunday. Just about made it to the sofa this morning.
Got it 2 weeks ago, although weirdly my asthmatic wife didn't get it this round. Fever, muscle aches, fountains of green mucus, brain fog. More or less back together now though.
I do worry about the long term, commulative damage from repeat infections, even in healthy people. The current research is looking rather scary.
It's turning out to be a once a year thing for me. And it's regular as clockwork, June or July. Pisses me off as I spend all winter training and it sets me back months every time
@catfood @mrbadger I am another that developed Type 2 diabetes following COVID, there is a family history of T2 after illness, but for mum, uncle and grandad, it was all after cancer.
In the weeks after COVID, eyesight started to blur, peeing every 20 minutes, lost appetite and weight, and felt so fatigued.
HBA1C came back at 60, 42-48 being pre-diabetic and over 48 diabetic.
Thankfully I knew about the disease and had read up on it quite a bit, and have never had to be medicated, and have controlled with diet and exercise, but each time i have gotten COVID since, another 2 occasions, blood glucose levels have gone up, and i haven't been able to exercise to control it.
I just hope that if i catch again, i don't damage insulin sensitivity and resistance to such a point i end up medicated.
So here is a question..
Assuming you are exposed (ie living in a house with a positive person), but don't test positive, I presume that's because your immune system has fought it off
If that's the case, does it still give your resistance a 'top up', as I'm assuming it must have triggered some response from your antibodies?
Well this is all very frightening. Why aren't we seeing this stuff reported in the media? Covid reporting fatigue?
As an aside, I seem to be recovering quite quickly from a bad low in a few days.
@supernova, excess mortality has also stayed as high as it was at times during the acute pandemic, and nobody knows why. Year 2023 was the worst in many western countries - here in Finland 2023 was as bad as last seen during World War 2. It does not seem like the pandemic is at all over - we have just gotten used to it and media does not report on it anymore.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-average-baseline
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-06-high-excess-death-west-years.html
It's now endemic rather than a pandemic, iirc, but still very serious.
Scud one of the issues with Covid and diabetes is that the virus attacks the ACE2 protein on the outside of the pancreas beta cells, it and your own bodies immune system then attack the beta cells causing them to fail ( actually revert to stem cells), leading to poor or in some cases no insulin production.
I've had Corona 3 times to my knowledge. Currently doing IVF so have had to give a fair few "personal samples". Two of them were given within 1-2 months of having 'vid and my count and motility were through the absolute floor. The doctors think there is almost certainly a link there.
Lots of ACE2 receptors in the sperm-making machinery down there, apparently, so a 'target-rich environment' for covid. Also suspected of disrupting female reproductive health. Hopefully it won't affect your chances of IVF success, or you're timing your rounds to allow recovery.
Beginning to think it would be quicker to list the body systems that don't potentially get screwed up by it.
I'm still a bit groggy, but it hasn't headed for my chest yet (last time out, ended up with pneumonia). My wife has the added joy of a nasty tinnitus and left-side nerve pain/swelling being made worse by it. Last time she got it, the tinnitus hung around for a few months afterwards.
I have an increasing collection of these.
Must be the 5th, maybe 6th time. Undoubtedly from the 12000+ dirty diseased Londoners at Wemburlee Arena 10 days ago.
Despite Mrs getting covid badly when it was new and novel in 2020 and being poorly for months, I somehow avoided it for the 1st 2 years. But plenty times since
As for the vaccines ? I've not died or needed to go to the hospital, 6 times not out. I'd say that not dieing 6 times in a miserable breathless suffocating way, is rather excellent.
A sub-infectious exposure will boost your immunity. It’s how top up vaccinations work. Expand out the memory B cells to make some more antibodies, recruit some more cell lines to expand the spectrum of cover.
I get pericarditis after every immune challenge now, to go with the bilateral sinusitis. It’s an interesting alarm call. Currently nursing off a cold rather than COVID, and starting to feel a little better. Symptoms respond to paracetamol and ibuprofen. I’d rather avoid a fifth bout this year since it doesn’t agree with me, and I spent months training for a decent race season.
vaccines will be updated for new strains as per other endemic respiratory viruses. These are closer to the likely emergent strains. It’s not true that older vaccines are not capable of any response. They produce a polyclonal response against multiple areas of the spike. Not every point has mutated, and any residual binding reduces the possibility of viral escape and serious sequalae. Eventually this protection will wane, but the original Wuhan strain is still being used in some mixes. It won’t stop you catching it. But it may still keep you out of hospital.