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*OK it was the Water Board (but it's all 'the man' innit) reminding me they could install a water meter and actually charge us for what we use rather than what they guess we might use. As a family of four who deposit a never-ending mountain of sports kit into the washing machine I suspect this wouldn't be a good move so instead started wondering how much electricity you could generate from a domestic water supply where volume used was not an issue?

So supposing you had the time, space, budget and ability to rig something up, would you be better off having a smaller turbine constantly running or would it pay to have a larger one turned less frequently by a reservoir........or is there a better way?

picture me building a damn I said..............possibly


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 9:32 am
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I've wondered the same. A small micro generator on the mains in so all water use generated power (yes I know it would kill the pressure and probably make other parts of the water grid less efficient). Or a turbine in the soil stack.

Unrealistic pipe dreams I think.

OTOH get the water meter fitted and pay your way đŸ˜›


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 9:37 am
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This is a fun little website, a lot of old fashioned ingenuity spread around it's pages.

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/water-power/


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 9:51 am
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This is a fun little website, a lot of old fashioned ingenuity spread around it’s pages.

http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/water-power//blockquote >

Thanks for the link, bookmarked for later perusal!


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:16 am
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Or a turbine in the soil stack.

A turdine?


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:30 am
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It would be incredibly wasteful.  Pouring fresh clean purified drinking water straight down the drain.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:33 am
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An interesting puzzle.

The power derived from a hydro turbine is govenerned by the folmula P=Rho*g*h*Q

where Rho = 1000 for tap water, g (gravity) = 9,.81

h(head) in scotland each home will be supplied with one bar ~ 10m head

q - flow rate = again each household is designed to be supplied with 500l/d or 0.005787 l/s

Therefore, assuming you obtain 100% effeciency of the turbine you could look to "harvest" 0.002kW or 2 Watts. About half that of a bicycle dynamo hub.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:33 am
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https://what-if.xkcd.com/91/


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:37 am
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Did you open it and read it and see it said they were suckers?


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:44 am
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It would be incredibly wasteful.  Pouring fresh clean purified drinking water straight down the drain.

Well, we already use it to flush the bog, wash the dishes, wash the car/bike, water the lawn...


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:47 am
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it took over 6 mins?

anyway, it used to be the case that they'd take the meter out at your request within a year if you decided you didn't want it. what's your water charge?


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:50 am
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It would be incredibly wasteful.  Pouring fresh clean purified drinking water straight down the drain.

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I suppose I should have added 'lack of morality' to my list of prerequisites

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Did you open it and read it and see it said they were suckers?

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I did, but as I said, am keeping my options open as to whether to give / build a dam(n) or not


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 10:53 am
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It was quite popular a few years ago. You could buy a "water motor", which connects to a tap, and powers a sewing machine etc. http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/POWER/watermotor/watermotor.htm

I suspect it is now illegal, it would count as wasting water, or causing undue consumption.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 11:03 am
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That's a Tricky one....


 
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Posted : 19/03/2018 11:54 am
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Or a turbine in the soil stack.

so the **** really does hit the fan?


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 12:02 pm
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It would be incredibly wasteful. Pouring fresh clean purified drinking water straight down the drain.

It doesn't leave the system, so it's not wasted.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 12:51 pm
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is the the OP trying to become some kind of Public Enemy?


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 1:02 pm
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Don't believe his hype


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 1:14 pm
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Its probable Harder than you think


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 2:04 pm
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So what you're basically asking is What kind of Power We Got?


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 2:43 pm
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>reminding me they could install a water meter and actually charge us for what we use rather than what they guess we might use.

Have you done the Maths? We're unmetered and they charge us about 3-4x the going rate for a 2 person household, however our garden hose use probably means we break even, hence I've not bothered getting a meter installed.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 3:02 pm
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Have always been astonished that some people get unmetered (mains) water. The cost factor is irrelevant, it simply encourages water wastage.

Water meters will be compulsory under my dictatorship.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 3:33 pm
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I've never had a water meter, but there's freakin loads of water falling out the sky here.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 4:30 pm
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Water meters will be compulsory under my dictatorship

We have a meter. I can't think of a single circumstance where anyone in the house has altered their behaviour in the knowledge they'll save some of my money.

If they did my heart would probably have a Massive Attack.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 4:59 pm
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We have a meter.

Are you sure its a meter though? It could be a Timebomb.

Check which way the dial it turning - if you're lucky and its going up in value then it is indeed a water meter. If you're not so lucky then I'm afraid its Countdown to Armageddon.


 
Posted : 19/03/2018 5:19 pm

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