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I found this lump...

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...and I'm trying to find something it could be other than cancer.

I've got a doctor's appointment in just under a week's time so that's a week of stewing and I'm hoping someone who knows about this kind of stuff can tell me something it could be other than cancer because so far my internet self-diagnosis hasn't given me any likely candidates.

So, it's a pea-sized hard lump on the bottom of my right testicle. It's definitely attached to the testicle and it's not on the epididymis or in the scrotum. On the testicle.

Every source I've read says that a lump doesn't necessarily mean cancer. However, they describe all the other things it could be, none of which are what I have. None of them have said, 'If you find a pea-sized hard lump on the actual testicle, it could be this'.

I'm most likely going to lose a bollock, aren't I?

On the other hand, I'm most likely going to be fine apart from that?


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 7:51 am
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Could be a cyst like wot mine is. IANAD. You’ll get checked out and hopefully your mind will be put at ease


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 7:55 am
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Look at it this way, if it is cancer, you have found it, it will get treated and it should be done, even if you lose one testicle. If it is not cancer, then that’s also good.

Either way, getting it seen to is the first step. Yes, stewing for a week is not going to be good for you, but stick with it. Getting the investigation process started is he best thing you could have done.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 7:56 am
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You stil have to wait a week? I had something similar a few years a go, albeit pre-covid, and the docs got me in within the hour, they took it very seriously. Fortunately turned out to be nothing severe.

Could you try a NHS walk in centre if that's the best your GP can do? Or call the 111 helpline? I'd not be waiting.

Best of luck OP hope everything is fine.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 7:58 am
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Could be a cyst like wot mine is.

Was yours on the actual bollock? Cause everything I've read says they can appear anywhere except on the bollock.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 7:59 am
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Put the internet down for **** sake madness lies that way.

You have done the absolute best thing you can buy going to the doctor and not ignoring it. Don't undo all the good work by letting your mind run away with itself.

Have you looked on Marie curie etc they may have some advice on dealing with the gap. Physical and mental exertion to keep distracted.

*Prays for OPs testical*


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:01 am
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Put the internet down for **** sake madness lies that way.

Plenty good information (from actual medical sources) out there. Just none of it is giving me any alternative options about what it could be.

But yeah, I think I've taken my internet self-diagnosis about as far as I can.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:05 am
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all as above, however, I'd be pushing for an urgent GP appointment, they often keep some same day ones for urgent matters, which this would fit into.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:11 am
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Did you tell the Doc that you'd found a lump? A week seems an awfully long time to wait for an appointment. For your own peace of mind, I think you should be getting back on the phone and asking for something much sooner.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:17 am
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How old are you?

Its almost certainly and variocele or spermatocele.

Pea sized hard lump is bang on the description.

Still, IANAD and its right to get it checked out.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:20 am
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Probably should have mentioned this is Norway and this seems to be the way it works here.

World's richest country, and all that.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:22 am
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To check if it's a cyst, find a torch and try and shine a light through it. Cyst's are transparent. Don't ask me how I know...
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Posted : 18/11/2022 8:27 am
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Its almost certainly and variocele or spermatocele.

From what I understand, variocele is in the scrotum while spermatocele is in the epididymus. Not what I've got.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:27 am
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Still could be that or a zillion other things. Cancer is the least likely option if the nastiest. Still get it checked.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:30 am
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It seems everyone bashes the NHS, but since COVID I have had two face to face Drs appointments within 24 hours of calling and two more telephone appointments the same day.

My view was I needed to stop being 'British' about the whole thing and use phrases like;

#1 "I am in extreme pain, my knee is the size of a melon and red and I can't walk" v "my knee is swollen and uncomfortable"

#2 "My leg is blue, I think I have a DVT" v "My leg hurts"

I don't mean lie, but when it is potentially serious (as your could be), don't 'play-it-down'. Try calling them back and pushing for an earlier appointment.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:31 am
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To check if it’s a cyst, find a torch and try and shine a light through it. Cyst’s are transparent. Don’t ask me how I know…

For the love of God don't post pictures.

How quickly has it grown?


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:39 am
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Still could be that or a zillion other things.

Like what?

That's basically my reason for starting the thread. I can't find anything else it could be.

Regarding the torch/cyst thing, I read about that, but again, that's only going to work if your lump is in the scrotum or epididymus. If the lump is on the testicle itself there is pretty much no way to shine anything 'through' it.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:43 am
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I found a lump several years ago and I know your thought process. Mine was a variocele. As a young kiwi ultrasound doctor told me, as I tried to think about cauliflowers.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:46 am
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Like what?

Cysts of various sorts. Infections. Varicocele. etc etc


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:49 am
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The good news is you've found it.

The even better news is that even if it is cancerous, its probably the most treatable male cancer there is.

A mate found a lump 2-3 months ago, had an orchidectomy, it was cancerous, it doesn't appear to have spread, he just needs monitoring. He was very upset at the time, but is in a much better place now.

Expect supportive friends to ask if your consultant is Katya Bolokov.

Sign up for Christmas Chub Club - marginal gains and all that.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:54 am
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I've had my own brush with cancer recently, in a different part of the undercarriage (prostate). Waiting for test results is the absolute worst. Chances are what you have will not be cancer, but even if it is, knowing that, knowing what the treatment options are and what you are dealing with is somehow better than the waiting IME. Going from the unknown to the known and then being in the care of people who know how to best deal with it. Best of luck with your results, step away from the search engine!


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:54 am
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Cysts of various sorts. Infections. Varicocele. etc etc

Yup, been through all those and none match what I'm seeing.

To re-iterate, lump is on the testicle itself. Not in scrotum and not in epididymus. The only thing I've found a lump on the testicle itself can be is cancer.

I'm just hoping that there is actually something a lump on the testicle could be that isn't cancer. I appreciate people telling me that it could be a cyst but I'm almost certain that's not the case (unless there is a type of cyst you can get that is on the testicle itself).


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 8:55 am
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My 2p: I went to the Dr after finding a lump in same area. He sent me for checks and it was just a cyst. However he also send me for a blood test that revealed I had Prostate Cancer. I ended up having my Prostate removed. The cyst is still there and is like having a third bollock. I hope yours all checks out ok and you don't have to go through all that.


 
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I’m most likely going to lose a bollock, aren’t I?

On the plus side, I've read enough of your posts to be comfortable telling you you've plenty to spare.

That out of the way, even if it is, you've caught it, you're getting it checked and it'll be treated and survival and recovery rates are very high.

More likely it is something completely different, and less harmful than the stress of worrying about it.

The outcome is most likely you'll be absolutely fine. Get on your bike and go for a ride and try to worry about something else.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:00 am
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Well, unless I've been lied to then your research is wrong, as mine is attached firmly and not cancer. I understand the panic but you aren't helping yourself, go and see a pro.

I'd offer to check but as I'm in the docs waiting room right now they might not like it.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:01 am
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(unless there is a type of cyst you can get that is on the testicle itself)

They're full of glands that secrete stuff, as with any gland, they occasionally get blocked and voila, cyst.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:01 am
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Well, unless I’ve been lied to then your research is wrong, as mine is attached firmly and not cancer. I understand the panic but you aren’t helping yourself, go and see a pro.

Thanks, that's what I wanted to hear 🙂


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:02 am
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To re-iterate, lump is on the testicle itself. Not in scrotum and not in epididymus. The only thing I’ve found a lump on the testicle itself can be is cancer.

Dr google is doing you no favours. I have listed a bunch of stuff it could be from my little knowledge.

Yes it could be a cancer but it also could be one of a number of other things. None of us know enough to be sure


 
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I’d offer to check but as I’m in the docs waiting room right now they might not like it.

Show it to the receptionist, they'll be extatic, they all want to be drs but never get to do any good stuff.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:04 am
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Just out of interest - have you had a vasectomy? That will also give you lumps in that area. Mine certainly did.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:07 am
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Just out of interest – have you had a vasectomy? That will also give you lumps in that area. Mine certainly did.

No, but I have been thinking about it. Maybe I could ask if they'll do a 2 for 1 deal...


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:15 am
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They generally do disconnect both knackers when they are doing it...


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:22 am
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Assuming it does turn out to be cancer, there's an overriding positive to this. You've found it, presumably early, which makes your chances of complete recovery very high. If you hadn't found it, it may have spread. So in the worst-case scenario it's still a positive.
If it turns out to not be cancer, that's a positive too.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:29 am
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Mine was the 2-1 deal, but the other way round - cyst found whilst being checked for a vasectomy, then both sorted under a GA. Bonus was I didn't get to smell burning flesh whilst awake.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:30 am
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I'd be panicking as well, but I was going to write the same thing as @creakingdoor (great user name btw) There are positives, you've found it, and you're doing something about it quickly - you'd probably not be surprised to hear about the amount of guys that ignore it and hope that it just goes away. It's more likely to be nothing malevolent.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:35 am
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Pffft! GA for a vasectomy? Lightweight. You should get a local and experience the whole thing. Although they don't seem keen on you sitting up to see how they are going on.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:36 am
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I had something like this. Was diagnosed as an epididymal cyst. It's still there, but it's mostly fluid so it's not harmfull - there's more risk in geting rid of it, so I'll live with it

like you I was really concerned when I found it, but am now fine with it, just like @theotherjonv


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 9:39 am
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Comedian Richard Herring has recently been through testicular cancer and has put loads of info out there about his experienced of it (Podcasts, books, blogs, radio sit-coms! etc).

https://www.whsmith.co.uk/products/can-i-have-my-ball-back-a-memoir-of-masculinity-mental-health-and-my-right-testicle/richard-herring/hardback/9780751585766.html

That may be reassuring to look up (or not...) - long story short, he was told it wasn't the big-C, then told it probably was, had it lopped off, then told it definitely was, had a single bout of chemo and now has enough comedy material to last him the next 10 years.


 
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Hit it with a book and see it if goes away


 
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Bonus was I didn’t get to smell burning flesh whilst awake.

Reminiscent of bacon, but still not a recommendation

GA for a vasectomy? Lightweight.

Agreed. However, make sure they give you enough. They found out I have a decent tolerance for it about a millisecond after I did.... my teethmarks are still in the ceiling tile.

like you I was really concerned when I found it, but am now fine with it, just like @theotherjonv

I can confirm, I am also totally fine with NBT's balls.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:11 am
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To re-iterate, lump is on the testicle itself. Not in scrotum and not in epididymus. The only thing I’ve found a lump on the testicle itself can be is cancer.

I've added emphasis to your own words.  It can be - that's why you were checking but it doesn't mean it is.  Even your GP who has likely felt a lot more bollocks than you can't tell that just by feel.  He'll have a squeeze, ask you some questions and then probably refer you to a urologist.  That doesn't mean he thinks its cancer, it means he either thinks it might be or believes you'll be reassured when the expert does his thing.  You'll go to the urologist who has seen many more cancerous bollocks than the GP who will do the whole thing again.  They'll probably do an ultrasound.  They may point at a grainy black and white tv picture and say "see nothing to worry about" or they may say "we need more tests".  Only at that point you are starting to look likely to have cancer - but even then it might not be (otherwise he'd just say "lets lop it off this afternoon").

I’m just hoping that there is actually something a lump on the testicle could be that isn’t cancer. I appreciate people telling me that it could be a cyst but I’m almost certain that’s not the case (unless there is a type of cyst you can get that is on the testicle itself).

I have no idea how you could determine its not a cyst - they can grow pretty much anywhere.  Perhaps an experienced urologist can judge that from touch/feel/location on the testicle but you need to see it with ultrasound or something fancier to know.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:32 am
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go and see a pro.

Relieve the pressure, sort of thing?


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 11:33 am
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Agreed. However, make sure they give you enough. They found out I have a decent tolerance for it about a millisecond after I did

Thank god, you're the first other person I've known who had this issue. They really do know you've not had enough local a millisecond after you find out 🤣


 
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To check if it’s a cyst, find a torch and try and shine a light through it.

A separate thread?

What lights for...... shining at my balls?


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 12:29 pm
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Anything by Exposure.

Moon lights if it's your arse you need to inspect.


 
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Oh yes. I had the same happen with a tooth extraction, that broke off while pulling it leaving a root in. After a bit of fruitless trying to get a hold / lift the remaining root, the dentist went next door to get his colleague who moonlights as a dental surgeon at the RBH. She came in, had a look, declared some fancy technique would work and said she'd be back once she'd finished with her patient next door.

10 mins later she came in and had a poke at it; in that 10 mins the anaesthetic had worn off just enough. There are fingernail marks in their ceiling tiles.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 12:34 pm
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Derailing the topic a bit, but in response to:

Did you tell the Doc that you’d found a lump? A week seems an awfully long time to wait for an appointment.

It's a Friday... and under a week could be wednesday...
I fully appreciate this warrants being seen SOON, but it's a bit unfair to suggest it needs seeing TODAY - it's not "life or limb" threatening....
Once seen, the GP may possibly make a "2 week rule referral for suspected cancer", which locally here (west sussex) is actually 3-4 weeks due to service pressures..
So,. in summary...I think if you have a pre booked appointment for sometime next week, that seems wholly appropriate.
Good luck

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Posted : 18/11/2022 12:39 pm
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Sounds like you'll have caught It early even if it is something a little nasty. You can even have testicle implants these days if you did lose a knacker.

I'm going to have 3 soon, knackers that is. 2 real and the third one you pump between index and thumb to get an erect penis.

I'm genuinely concerned that it'll pump up during bike rides as I get in and out of the saddle though.

That said, it'll look like I really am well chuffed to have cleared hill climbs on the STW...

I mean REALLY chuffed.

Good luck op and I'm sure all will be fine.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 12:40 pm
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Sign up for Christmas Chub Club – marginal gains and all that.

I get the impression that the OP is rather hoping NOT to lose a stone before christmas if at all possible...


 
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To check if it’s a cyst, find a torch and try and shine a light through it.

A separate thread?

What lights for…… shining at my balls?

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Anything by Exposure.

Moon lights if it’s your arse you need to inspect.

I'm going to be cruel and suggest Hope!


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 12:44 pm
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Well done for checking. Chances are the doc will refer you for an ultrasound. Mine was an epididymal cyst causing no issues.

Don't think there will be a vas deferens between how these and anything more sinister will feel to the untrained hand, so try your best not to panic.

IGMC etc


 
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That said, it’ll look like I really am well chuffed to have cleared hill climbs on the STW…

I mean REALLY chuffed.

Braggy much? This time of year, even in my skimpiest lycra, it would be broadly impossible to discern from the surrounding goose bumps.


 
Posted : 18/11/2022 12:57 pm
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I have a similar thing and I have had it since my mid 20s. It tends to come and go but can hang around for a while. I went to the doctors at the time but by the time I got the appointment it had gone. It tends to appear when I’m run down or have a virus.

I only found out what it was a few years ago, 20 years later, when I was getting a kidney ultrasound and the radiologist did my balls for free. For me it’s a swollen vain (varicocele). Obviously you best get it checked out as it could be something more serious but there are plenty of benign things it could be.


 
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I only found out what it was a few years ago, 20 years later, when I was getting a kidney ultrasound and the radiologist did my balls for free.

I'm not a biologist, but either your kidneys are very low, your balls are mahoosive, or you are just a very small person and it all fitted in one pic.....


 
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I was an extra scan at 50 your balls are even further from your kidneys.


 
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I got a private scan of my nuts after a mucho botched snip as there were lumps on lumps. Ended up with the eididymis being cut off one nut (lengthy op) to relieve pain. Still a bit of a mess down there. Where is the lump ?


 
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I got a private scan of my nuts after a mucho botched snip as there were lumps on lumps. Ended up with the eididymis being cut off one nut (lengthy op) to relieve pain. Still a bit of a mess down there. Where is the lump ?

After that description, right up inside my stomach cavity


 
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A mate found a lump 2-3 months ago, had an orchidectomy, it was cancerous, it doesn’t appear to have spread, he just needs monitoring. He was very upset at the time, but is in a much better place now.

This was me 3 years ago. Dr called me while in the school hall watching my kids Judo lesson. I paraphrase but the conversation went something like “Hi, you’ve got cancer”. Walking back into that gym hall was one of the hardest things I’ve done in my life. Quick op and I’m absolutely fine so really, really don’t worry. If it’s cancer, you’ve got the easiest one to deal with.


 
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That said, it’ll look like I really am well chuffed to have cleared hill climbs on the STW…

I mean REALLY chuffed.

Braggy much? This time of year, even in my skimpiest lycra, it would be broadly impossible to discern from the surrounding goose bumps.

Lol, I know what you mean.
Im strictly a good weather rider these days though. Well, up till this year when I've only ridden twice and one of those was on the turbo.😐 Ironically that's been more to do with my feet that anything.


 
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Anything in your wee Bruce?


 
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My username might give you all a clue to how I pay the bills so I would add to the above:

Huge number of benign causes of lumps on the testicle itself.

Cysts of the tunica, appendix testis, scrotal pearls etc are the most common.

What you think is definitely testicle may be epididymis etc.

So. 1.GP. 2. Scan. 3. 99 percent of the time nothing to worry about.


 
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Whats a thread without pictures 😕


 
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I get the impression that the OP is rather hoping NOT to lose a stone before christmas if at all possible…

This deserved more love.


 
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