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Why is no one asking the question; why is there an underclass of white working class girls who's aspirations are so low that they can be "bought" for a few worthless trinkets a ride in a "nice" car and a free pizza washed down with half a bottle of cider ?
They and their issues are ignored from start to finish... the whole thing seems like a self perpetuating inevitability!
You think Huddersfield's bad? You should visit Cleckhudderfax!
I once knew a girl called Alison, lovely lass, big boobs, & she had a boyfriend in Huddersfield & I saw her one day & asked her what she was up to, she said (& this is the gods honest truth) 'I'm off to Huddersfield to get me udders feeled.'
She was from Durham though so nowt to do with the OP.
Apparently Huddersfield Uni is good - my son fancies going there - might have to re-evaluate that !
why is there an underclass of white working class girls who’s aspirations are so low that they can be “bought”
Insert name of any number of regional towns and cities where this has been revealed to have gone un-noticed or ignored for nigh on a decade.
Que?
Expand for those of us that don't really understand what you are on about..
Ta.
Ok, let ME expand..
It looks like from your post that You are driving around Huddersfield offering cheap white cider to girls and offering them a lift in your "nice" car..
How old are the girls?
And have you nothing better to do that pick up Huddersfield's waif and strays??
It is Friday, but that's no excuse.
Ahh, thank you my friend.
All is clear.
Maybe that link should have been in your original post..
Enjoy your friday evening..
Ok, let ME expand..
It looks like from your post that You are driving around Huddersfield offering cheap white cider to girls and offering them a lift in your “nice” car..
How old are the girls?
And have you nothing better to do that pick up Huddersfield’s waif and strays??
It is Friday, but that’s no excuse.
are you accusing me of being a pedophile ?
well it does look like the thread derailers are in early here.
It was eye opening to see how high drug use was in the smaller towns etc. as above people just falling off the edges of normal life and not seeing where things are going because at the start they are getting something nice for it.
Britain first and Tommy r types must be messing themselves with glee.
Britain first and Tommy r types must be messing themselves with glee.
It was that muppets "reporting" on one of these cases that resulted in him being locked up. Since he could have undermined the trial and let some arsehole get away with it.
a guy on r4 was saying there's a load of cases pending up and down the country all under reporting restrictions.
Why is no one asking the question; why is there an underclass of white working class girls who’s aspirations are so low that they can be “bought” for a few worthless trinkets a ride in a “nice” car and a free pizza washed down with half a bottle of cider ?
I'm not sure no one is. All NHS staff and other staff in the public sector who come into to contact with children are trained to spot and report such potential issues. The fact that it's shocking news to the general public that this can happen is understandable.
It's not just girls or indeed working class.
are you accusing me of being a pedophile ?
Que?
I’m stepping out of this thread.
Its got weird and starting to hit the blame button.
For the record, No. Obviously.
You’re original post didn’t include a link, it read like it was you doing the deed...
Then a few posts down you popped the link in and all became clear, and I said as much in my following post.
Jeeze..
Apparently Huddersfield Uni is good – my son fancies going there – might have to re-evaluate that !
Yes it is is really good. Loads of new buildings have been built over the last few years, looks amazing. Facilities seem really good to me - I was there 20 years ago and liked it.
I live in Huddersfield and I have no idea what the OP is on about to be honest.
I live in Huddersfield and I have no idea what the OP is on about to be honest.
Do you watch or read the news?
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-45918845
Top story on BBC UK at the moment and across various other outlets.
It's the details of some of the grooming cases that came out.
It's taken 4-5 years for these cases to get as far as convictions, and some of the offences are equally far back.
The problem with kids with "dysfunctional" backgrounds and lifestyles is not new, the prosecution and conviction of organised gangs/celebs/insert abusers of choice here is a relatively new angle. I'd like to think that it is progress from the legal aspect.
The childrens commissioner reported earlier this week that something like 8000 kids are on the brink due to being at risk in their home life - drink, drugs, violence, abuse. There aren't the resources to pull those kids out of those families to get them safe, children's services are stretched as it, and for every one they "save" another will go wrong and they will be crucified in the press.
The cost of being more proactive to help these families and these kids is probably less than the cost of sorting out the longer term costs of missed education, unemployment, crime, prosecution, imprisonment, rehabilitation, but in a country run by bean counters, no one is going to make that leap and incur the cost up front.
Oh crap yes - I just googled it and found out. How horrific. A great result by the police (yes they didn’t do well at the start) in the end and the praise they have given to the witnesses is very much deserved.
Probably the same thing happens in a lot of towns and cities to some degree. If you read the stories of how it started to happen to these poor girls and how they couldn’t seem to get out of it it makes me weep.
To be fair it only been up in the last 2 hours on the BBC site which I check when I have time but given I have been on a call out since 4pm so yes I do read or watch the news.
My mum & sister are both from Huddersfield but they are/were fussy about who they slept with IIRC
dirty filthy south asian rapists should be publicly castrated. as should all rapists.
sorry for being so pc.
dirty filthy south asian rapists should be publicly castrated. as should all rapists.
sorry for being so pc.
Tony, don't even think about being sorry. Nothing to be sorry about.
Just remember these are a minority of people not an entire religion or group, made the mistake of opening the comments on a BBC Tennis article and the little Tommy Racists were banging on in there....
This is the time we are finding out about these things going on, not when they started.
25 years ago my ex brother in law who at the time was a copper in Sheffield was telling me about these things happening, and the incredible frustration he felt that his superiors refused to do anything about it. It wasn’t to do with being politically correct, but shockingly they simply didn’t see these girls as being worth the hassle. I distinctly remember my shock at the stories he was telling, and also the feeling that he must be exaggerating in some way. So it’s not new nor is it isolated...
not new, not isolated at all.
when i was growing up in wakefield 40 years ago, this was happening back then. a certain taxi company who employed 100% south asian men was well known for the drivers hitting on young girls.
dirty filthy scum who deserve to be treated has such.
Also in the last few days.
What MoreCashThanDash said.
I think what it shows is that this sort of abuse is not bounded by age, race, religion or social standing. Focusing on that misses the real problems.
Why is no one asking the question; why is there an underclass of white working class girls who’s aspirations are so low that they can be “bought” for a few worthless trinkets a ride in a “nice” car and a free pizza washed down with half a bottle of cider ?
I'm afraid you have got this totally wrong, the victims are not white working class girls. They are Looked After kids, social work kids, kids home kids. Describe them however you want but they are, truly, the most vulnerable children in our society. They are abused, naive, desperate for attention/love/acceptance yet they think they are streetwise. they act oler yet they are very young, they are horribly vulnerable, they are, in short, a very easy target.
I find this genuinely devastating yet am not even slightly surprised. When I worked in kids homes we would see this first hand on a very regular basis. It was the same routine. Young, nice looking lads would park up outside the care home in a nice car. They would give out jewellery, befriend the girls, take them out on 'dates' and become their 'boyfriend'. They would give them a phone, possibly drugs and then they were in control. They would then tell their 'girlfriend' that they needed to sleep with one of the other men and within a matter of weeks they would passed around like a piece of meat. They were not fussy, any post pubescent white girl would be fine (only ever white). They would be horribly abused. If we moved the guys on they would appear 10 mins later at the next social work kids home.
This was 15 years ago and they were always, always, asian men.
Police were not interested and literally everyone, in any position of power seemed nervous in addressing it, I assume due to race.
I worked in Edinburgh since then we have had case after case after case of the same demographic, committing the same heinous crime, against the same profile of victim.
This is a massive problem that is not about race, it is about continuous, targeted abuse of our most vulnerable children and nothing is being done to ask why on earth it keeps happening in towns and cities all over the UK.
An ex colleagues daughter has been down this path. Groomed by some gang of Asian men & abused but she think's theyr'e ok, started when she was 14.
Social services & the police have both been involved but It's an ongoing thing.
Drac, sorry mate, but you are wrong.
we are talking about rape gangs, not individuals. and these men have been doing it for years.
it is seen as acceptable in their communities.
we are talking about rape gangs, not individuals. and these men have been doing it for years.
it is seen as acceptable in their communities.
.We know what you are talking about ton, we also know the bits you are ignoring too.
See also the Catholic Church aiding and covering up abuse
TV Stars
Sports Clubs
etc
etc
It was all seen as acceptable in "their" communities
Tackle the entire problem.
mikesmith............ that is the good old racist im me mate eh?
No idea, but there are people abusing kids from all races and walks of life, they are all preying on vulnerable kids, making this an Asian problem lets the others off the hook.
Being friends with someone quite high up in NOrth York’s Police and hearing what he goes through daily makes me realise that there is an awful lot more shit that goes on constantly that never gets reported. Every walk of life, every type of person, it seems to go on everywhere. 🙁
I agree completely with mike. Abuse takes place within a variety of communities, and the modus operandi and acceptance is different within these groups. The ongoing Scottish Child Abuse Enquiry has brought forth testimony from many backgrounds, recently bringing about a cack handed apology by the Chief Executive of the Scottish Football Association. We are rightfully hearing about the level of abuse perpetrated by mainly Asian gangs in towns across Northern England. I am waiting for a house of cards to topple in the rugby world, and I bet the perpetrators will not be Asian!
What your friend high up in Yorkshire Police deals with johndoh differs from what we are hearing on this thread, that the police are not interested. There is a dichotomy here?!
making this an Asian problem lets the others off the hook.
No it doesn't. What it does is identify a particular issue which is the start of addressing that issue. It is no different to inquiries into abuse in the catholic church, football clubs, Jersey care homes. No-one said in those instances 'we mustn't label this as it will let other people off the hook.'
There is a serious issue with multi generational gangs of asian men abusing vulnerable (looked after) kids in towns and cities across the UK. If they were routinely targeting girls in expensive boarding schools it would be taken more seriously. Of course there is abuse in other forms, no-one is saying otherwise.
I've seen girls unable to walk the following day after being abused on 'dates with their boyfriends.'. It kind of sticks with you and, perhaps, gives a different perspective to those who haven't seen the damage first hand.
I should have said before though, excellent work by the police to bring so many men to justice in Huddersfield.
theres no shortage of arseholes of all ethnicities willing to abuse kids. The Mrs work takes her upsettingly close to this in an area where South Asians are not involved. But as above patterns of offending are different for different groups of offenders.
We need to take better care of vulnerable kids. But we won't. Depressing.
Drac, sorry mate, but you are wrong.
we are talking about rape gangs, not individuals. and these men have been doing it for years.
I’m not as Mike points out look at the Catholic Priests and abuse from children in care.
News bias throws people’s perspectives.
Insightful post franksinatra, with real insight to a victims perspective, and I get your thoughts in the irrelevance of religion to the background of child abusers, however I think the point is that rather than other abusers being let off the hook, their crimes may get pushed to the background from a reporting point of view. I hold my hand up also, but it is sad that we are talking about this in relation to another issue. The elephant in the room in Islamophobia. Whether we like it or not it is why the thread was started and what the OP was alluding to with no link to a report.
drac, I took a while to post then saw your comments. They are spot on.