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I think you've just killed your own argument there. Your situation is nothing like the OPs.

I disagree. Our engagements are long running. Often years long were I travel to client site on a weekly basis and only go home on a weekend.


 
Posted : 07/01/2016 11:21 am
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judging by the language you use is the head office you work in any where near Box Hill by any chance?

Close but 1 county out.

And given the 150 miles does the secondment happen to be for an organisation which shares a name and history with the makers of fancy cars (in fact do both organisations?).

I am not going to name the client except, as stated earlier, that the secondment was in Norwich where the riding sucks.


 
Posted : 07/01/2016 11:32 am
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@bensales But were you aware of that when you took on the role? I'm sure many people are in jobs requiring work away from home but the OPs situation is different in that he's effectively being asked to change his role and would end up worse off (not just financially) with no attempt by his company to reach a workable solution. I'm surprised he wasn't looking for another job already if he's paid 20% under his current grading (and should be on a higher grade anyway).


 
Posted : 07/01/2016 11:34 am
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I disagree. Our engagements are long running. Often years long were I travel to client site on a weekly basis and only go home on a weekend.

Is you normal place of work your office?
Do you get a travel allowance (milage) of 20p/m once per month?
Does your travel time come out of your own time?
Do you stay in shared accomodation?
Is your total allowance £35/day or less?


 
Posted : 07/01/2016 11:35 am
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I disagree. Our engagements are long running. Often years long were I travel to client site on a weekly basis and only go home on a weekend.

And presumably you're amply compensated for this inconvenience. It sounds like the OP is being asked to dip into his own pocket for this pleasure.


 
Posted : 07/01/2016 11:45 am
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ah, ok I missed the Norwich bit. Not the company I was thinking of then!


 
Posted : 07/01/2016 11:46 am
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that the secondment was in Norwich where the riding sucks.

Being away from home is fine, missing the wife and kids is fine, being away from home is all fine.

But Norwich!?!?


 
Posted : 07/01/2016 12:31 pm
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I think you've just killed your own argument there. Your situation is nothing like the OPs.

I disagree. Our engagements are long running. Often years long were I travel to client site on a weekly basis and only go home on a weekend.

Yep go back and read the 1st post and see if you would still be happy.

At the very lowest point I worked for a company for 6 months with a similar attitude, we got 60 Quid per day to cover Meals and Accommodation at the time a travel inn cost 59. Nothing motivates people more than treating them like shit.


 
Posted : 08/01/2016 2:33 am
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If I do not go the secondment will be offered to another company and 6-24 months of work will go to a competitor. It starts next week so not time for my employer to find a replacement to go.

And they are not prepared to move closer to the terms you want? That's an odd way to run a business.


 
Posted : 08/01/2016 8:53 am
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As I am no longer employed there as of 16:00 today (was given 30 mins notice to get out), for those of you who wanted to know which company this was it rhymes with Wee Ltd and is based in a county just south east of London. This is a bit cryptic as they have an internet watch for anything mentioning the company name or location.

Good engineers but management leaves a lot to be desired.

Hey ho, on-wards and up-wards and all that.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 6:50 pm
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They sounded like Kents!

You're best of out of it.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 7:04 pm
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Yep. Quite a relief actually. been waiting for the hammer to drop for the last month or so.

If you guess who it is please do not type the name in this thread.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 7:06 pm
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Still time to edit your post so you don't have to worry about that!

Have a beer or three tonight.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 7:08 pm
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I dearly hope they have lost the contract. Tell me they lost the contract?
I'd be severely tempted to contact the client and tell them what a bunch of ***ts they are!


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 7:09 pm
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good luck. your secret's safe!

on the outskirts of oil&gas here, but we have a decent list of contacts and contracts, decent team, and work in area of optimization which at low oil prices may be a better move than when there was money to burn..


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 7:15 pm
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All the best for the future. Some good will come of it.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 7:28 pm
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Yes, the contract was lost. They didn't want the alternative person put forward. Thought about contacting the client, not to state what a shower they are but to offer to do the work privately as a contractor. Thought better of it though and will likely get out of O&G as the market is so pants.

Kcal, where are you based? Low cost/cost reduction optimisation for asset inspections is what I was working on.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 7:31 pm
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That's tough but frankly you are better not getting into that. Well done.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 8:04 pm
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jonm81 -- not sure there'd be overlap, we are a small team of guys in Elgin & Aberdeen, part choke model optimisation of deferred production, partly turnaround improvements / efficiencies, part bowtie analysis..

We have one major system in various locations across the world, and chipping away at others.


 
Posted : 22/01/2016 8:04 pm
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