[Closed] How to prove evolution wrong

Well I'm sold.

Well that was convincing.

Here's some convincing scientific evidence from a very senior Republican politician that climate change and burning fossil fuel is nothing to worry about :

I never realised the primordial soup was peanut butter in the fairy tale of evolution...thanks christians

the second one she lost me a bi there remind me again is it a natural gas as she never really covered that

Ahhhh...my peanut butter is trying to eat me

Creationists; can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.
Well, you can, but it's generally frowned upon in polite society.

But wouldn't all that prove the existence of God & as per Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy cause Him to cease to exist? I never knew a jar of Peanut Butter could be so powerful.

Surely in order to convey this, they should've used cave paintings... or papyrus... or silent movies... or betamax etc etc

Ah I miss the Bachmann Nutter Overdrive

Well, if its an obvious truth then that must be right, right?

For people arguing against evolution they seem very determined to prove the existence of the missing link.

I once asked one of those hard line creationist types how they explained the presence of fossils and such. "God put them there to test your faith" was his response! 🙄

Edit - some say that fossils are proof of "the great flood" with Noah's ark and all that!

Religion, everything that casts doubt on it is there to test your faith...

might use that one in other places....

"Where did the last beer go?"
"God drank it (hic)"
"some chance you did"
"It's a test of faith"
"Oh OK then"

I'm sure there's a great one out there with a banana used to prove the existance of a creator. Can't find it right now though.

Doesn't the banana one go something along the lines of "something that is so suited the human hand and good to eat must have been the product of intelligent design"? Which in a way is actually correct as bananas (and most other fruit for that matter) has been "designed" through artificial selection. The only sticking point being that is was us humans that did the selecting.

One of the comments..

A banana also fits perfectly into? Ray Comfort's anus. Coincidence, evolution, or God's design? I don't know.

JoeG - Member

I once asked one of those hard line creationist types how they explained the presence of fossils and such. "God put them there to test your faith" was his response!

"Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith." I think God put you here to test my faith, Dude. You believe that? "Uh huh." Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God.. might be...****in' with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God running around: "Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha HA.”

I remember an interview with a "believe everything type"- he was a creationist but also was trying to capture bigfoot. But why? "Because if this here Bigfoot, this neanderthal, is still running around, that disproves evolution. Because how could they have evolved somewhere, if they're still there, obviously they didn't go nowhere!" That's science, that is.

I'm thinking about the existence of "Creationists" and "Intelligent Designers" and wondering what evolutionary advantage is conferred by being a moron.

It proves their is little evolutionary advantage to intelligence as morons can thrive just as easily.

"you may smile at this.." No sir, I am quaking in fear that you, by your very existence, have shown the that Darwin was incorrect and that your faulty genes will be passed on to future generations.

Our clients in the food packaging industry would be a little disturbed if "new life" popped up in foodstuffs they have so carefully packed under ISO22000 to prevent any form of life appearing in the products.

Evolution doesn't really describe or explain the creation of "life from non-life", evolution is what happens after life already exists. Unless i've got it wrong....

True enough Horatio... easy enough to follow 'evolution theory' once you have a single celled organism to start with, all well and good. But just how the **** did it all get started in the first place? I know the theories (primordial soup and all that) but where/how did the chemical reaction we call 'life' come from? Just chance??

"Dinosaur fossils? God put those there to test our faith." I think God put you here to test my faith, Dude. You believe that? "Uh huh." Does that trouble anyone here? The idea that God.. might be...****in' with our heads? I have trouble sleeping with that knowledge. Some prankster God running around: "Hu hu ho. We will see who believes in me now, ha HA.”

Bill Hicks?

It seems the problem is too few Creationist Scientists;

[url= http://www.icr.org/article/7096/ ]http://www.icr.org/article/7096/[/url]

I do wonder if this is because once people acquire a certain level of scientific knowledge they change their minds?

DNA is a complex system with built-in error-checking and the like, but that doesn't mean that it's the only way life can reproduce - we still have RNA for instance which is simpler. So it's likely that there were a series of replication mechanisms, each getting more sophisticated and therefore out-evolving the simpler systems.

As to where it started from originally - well, yes, it could have just been chance. Enough chemical reactions, enough lightning strikes, something might spark up. Or there's the panspermia theory, where life spreads between the stars.

Remember, you don't have to look at the odds of life originating on this planet, you have to look at the odds of life evolving [i]anywhere[/i] in the universe, with million of galaxies each with millions of stars. That's the beauty of the anthropic principle.

But just how the **** did it all get started in the first place? I know the theories (primordial soup and all that) but where/how did the chemical reaction we call 'life' come from?

Well, without going and looking it up, I'd say that if it's in Wikipedia or something, then that's how. If on the other hand, we don't know yet, then - we don't know yet.

Bit like the answer to "What caused the Big Bang"...

. But just how the **** did it all get started in the first place? I know the theories (primordial soup and all that) but where/how did the chemical reaction we call 'life' come from? Just chance??

In many areas, the superiority of the creation worldview has been clearly demonstrated.

Chuckles

That Michelle Bachmann video 😯

Just WOW. How can you stand up in Parliament and say CO2 makes up 3% of our atmosphere and not be torn to shreds

Peanut butter as an argument against evolution actually made more sense

Pretty sure experiments have been done passing electricity into "Primordial soup" that have reulted in the creation of amino acids.

aye...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller%E2%80%93Urey_experiment

Just WOW. How can you stand up in Parliament and say CO2 makes up 3% of our atmosphere and not be torn to shreds

Yes - she's taken 0.039%, chopped the % sign off the end, converted 0.039 to a percentage, and rounded down.

Yep, I know about the Miller-Urey experiments and how they generated amino acids, that's still a looooong way from actually generating life isn't it? As far as I know, that's never been achieved?

[i]As far as I know, that's never been achieved? [/i]

well, it's probably happened at least once by accident or we wouldn't be here 😉

Can we get that woman, put her in a gas-tight chamber and fill it with CO2 as a little bit of a helpful experiment?

We can open the door when she changes her mind about CO2 being harmless.

[url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life ]Lots of interesting reading on various theories in this here Wiki...[/url]

CountZero - Member
Creationists; can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.
Well, you can, but it's generally frowned upon in polite society.

Don't say that! I've just been converted by the peanut butter argument!

psychle - Member

Lots of interesting reading on various theories in this here Wiki...

Mmm yes, isn't there.

Is there something you want to say, psychle?

Nope... we're talking about science here, naught else 😆 🙄

psychle - Member

Yep, I know about the Miller-Urey experiments and how they generated amino acids, that's still a looooong way from actually generating life isn't it? As far as I know, that's never been achieved?

There was a landmark paper a few years ago from a guy at Manchester, who demonstrated a convincing synthesis of a nucleotide under plausible pre-biotic conditions. Even getting to one nucleotide had challenged many great minds, so this had quite an impact. He, and others, are now thinking how you get to an oligonucleotide RNA from single nucleobase buidling blocks under pre-biotic conditions. If they can make that (very large) step, then a coherent framework will be in place for the origin of life question.

Mr Woppit - Member
I'm thinking about the existence of "Creationists" and "Intelligent Designers" and wondering what evolutionary advantage is conferred by being a moron.

Junkyard - lazarus
It proves their is little evolutionary advantage to intelligence as morons can thrive just as easily.

I once asked one of those hard line creationist types how they explained the presence of fossils and such. "God put them there to test your faith" was his response!

That would mean God is deceitful. Is that someone worthy of worship?

Enough chemical reactions, enough lightning strikes, something might spark up.

Lightning has long been known to be indispensable in creating life

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The peanut butter experiment fails because it wasn't rigged up to capture lightning in a neo-gothic castle.

Just as well though........ the thought of an ungodly calorie-packed sweet sickly goo terrorising the world is quite horrifying

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