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Well about 1.2l/hr for the current conditions... hate to think what it is on a hotter day
Eh? Just drink when you feel like it? I mean, really?
You guys could learn a lot from Lemmy. Relax, stop analyzing etc., ride your bike more!
During the summer I did my regular loop with my camelback. Before leaving I had a pint of water and drank my 1.5 litre bladder dry. I must have had 10 piss stops in a 2 1/2 hour , 20 mile ride.
The next week (same temperatures) I took my 1 litre water bottle and had a little bit left when I got home with no piss stops.
The fact that I drank my bladder dry suggests that I was thirsty but why piss it back out? Or does having water so easily available with a camelback mean you hydrate out of habit even if you don't need it?
A company that sells water bladders telling me to drink....well I never
[url= http://www.irunfar.com/2012/07/waterlogged-a-dogma-shattering-book.html ]waterlogged[/url]
Drink when you're thirsty.
All the evidence suggests - unless you are in a really hot environment - just drink when you are thirsty.
There is a load of BS talked about this. Look at the NIH report if you want to know more.
Compare marathon fatalities linked with drinking too much v too little water????
Typically 1 litre per hour in summer, maybe 0.5 litres in winter, I never leave home without at least 2 litres.
Riding in 28 plus degrees and 90% humidity teaches you the importance of hydration.
Tim Noakes on Water
The US military and NZ or Aussie SF blokes did a study on this (the US was biggest of it's kind in history). The concluded, no matter what enviornment, no matter what activity you are involved in, your body will tell you when to drink. They took into account all factors around mental state, performance etc.. It was posted on here at some point.. I tend to agree considering my experience with lack of water in hot climates.
Waderider sed> You guys could learn a lot from Lemmy.
I couldn't walk down the pavement on a fraction of what he would drink, let along ride a bike off road.
The concluded, no matter what enviornment, no matter what activity you are involved in, your body will tell you when to drink.
Yep, all the calculator thing is going to do is give you an idea of how much to take, living in a hot climate things can get very nasty very quick
http://sportsscientists.com/2013/01/dangerous-exercise-the-hype-of-dehydration-heat-stroke/
http://believeperform.com/performance/brazil-2014-will-hydration-will-affect-cognitive-performance/
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2012/aug/07/sports-drinks-hydration-theory-water
yup, utter tosh, It told me at 20 deg to drink 1.2 ltrs per hr, usually drink about half of that - and my wee is still to to dark !
I'm having a dry December. So far this month I haven't drunk any water. Oh I tell a lie - I had a little drop in a cask-strength whisky the other evening.
The US military and NZ or Aussie SF blokes did a study on this (the US was biggest of it's kind in history). The concluded, no matter what enviornment, no matter what activity you are involved in, your body will tell you when to drink. They took into account all factors around mental state, performance etc.. It was posted on here at some point.. I tend to agree considering my experience with lack of water in hot climates.
Maybe on a bike, but when running I need to make a conscious effort to drink enough.
But that hydration calculator is rubbish, 2l of water to run a couple of hours @ 10C?
I ran a half marathon on whatever fluid is in a handful of blackberries. We drink/eat too much when exercising.
2l of water to run a couple of hours @ 10C?
Crazy isnt it, which means it's just a tool to make you buy one their packs
Strong +1 for Drink to Thirst and 'Waterlogged'.
I've been on medic duties at ultra marathons for a long time and I preach this one as hard as I can. Millions of years of evolution have taught us to know when we need water. Drinking to a regime can, in some circumstances, increase the risk of dangerous over-hydration.
It's taken a long time to get here but finally the American ultra community is starting to realise that they've been following drinking advice from those selling them the drink for years.
Asks for weight in LBs and apparently no way of changing.
Lazy development and instantly closed.
So far this Winter I have gone out with about 1.2 Litres in total, for rides with 4 to 5 hours riding time!
This is all I can carry without a Camelbak (I hate wearing those).
I drink over a litre while I'm driving my car to the start of the trails though, so I've had a lot of drink before I start the ride.
Yes I'm thirsty for the last 25% of the ride but I'd rather put up with that than getting constantly annoyed by a Camelbak.
It's heartening to see that so many people seem to have taken on board the "drink to thirst" message from Tim Noakes and Waterlogged. Overhydration is much more of a problem than people realise probably caused by bad advice from vested interests by energy drink companies.
Drubk less than 750 ml on a 5 hour ride today- did do the drink a litre of water first thing though
Not dehydrated during the ride but i do feel the need to drink a fair bot when i get in - probably had about another two litres or so.
Under three hours i have water but I almost never drink it.
We never used to stop for a drink on our long Sunday runs in the 80's and the last few miles was pretty full on stuff 😯
What Tim Noakes says. All bullshit to sell more stuff. Have a drink when you get back
Hmm seems a bit OTT. For the ride I did yesterday it reckons I needed 1l per hour, so I'd have to have 6 litres over the ride. I think I had 2l plus a pint of ale towards the end and it was a hard ride.
Drink when you feel thirsty. It's pretty much a given that for hard endurance events you'll finish a bit dehydrated but it's not really a problem for performance or health unless you're doing something bonkers where you can't recover afterwards.
The urine colour charts can't be an indicator of hydration. If i drink tea and espresso all day followed by beer at night (with a little water inbetween) my flow is usually clear, often and plenteful cos the diuretics are pumping it all out. First flow in the morning may be different, but they don't mention that.
I think this shows how science moves on. My mother ran the comrades marathon (ultra marathon in SA, 85km long) 10 times starting in the late 80s. All running then was based on the Lore of Running book written by Dr Tim Noakes. All of the advice was drink lots, eat huge amounts of carbs, including carbo loading massively before an event.
20+ years on, he is pushing a lower liquid, no carb diet. Science moves on, and our understanding of human bodies moves on, but if you have built your company and marketing on the older science, you have a very strong interest to maintain the status quo.
Went out yesterday for 4.5 hours on about 750ml of water, and I was pretty thirsty.
The amount per hour must surely depend on the total duration. I can run for an hour without water because I can rehydrate when I get home. But I can't run for four hours without it clearly. Likewise a 2 hour ride with 500ml doesn't mean you could ride 6 hours on 1500ml necessarily.