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So, I've been seeing this chap (who is rather nice, and I do like etc etc) - early days, but for the first time in a very, very long time it feels like I've met someone I'd like to be with.

But, I don't actually have much space or time in my life for a new relationship. I'm really lucky that I have great friends, spend most of my time biking or in the mountains, and have a job that requires a fair bit of travel.

I'm not prepared to bin off my friends, nor to stop doing the activities that I love, but it means that I'm constantly saying 'no, sorry' to this chap when he asks about meeting up. He's a cyclist too (far better than me!), so understands and says he likes it that I have my own interests and am out doing stuff, which is good. But part of me is also aware that I'm being a bit reluctant to get too involved with him as I don't want to get hurt in the future, so maintaining my current independant and autonomous interests is a way of protecting myself from getting too involved.

So, for those of you who are single or starting new relationships, how do you find time for them? Do you end up letting go of some things in your life to make room for someone new? Or is there another approach?

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:13 pm
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Just do what feels right...

No stress, no worries, no perceived compromise.

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:15 pm
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true friends will understand spending less time with you so you can explore a potential relationship 🙂

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:17 pm
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My 2p - You either have to be prepared to give something up or include this person in what you already do.

It's not fair to them to try and fit them in 'around' your life if you're expecting them to become a part of it.

That's not to say it has to be an all or nothing type thing but at least having a day a week (plus an evening, maybe) that you're prepared to commit to him wouldn't be unreasonable?

 
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I think you just find yourself adapting...if the person is right then they kind of just fit in with your life. If they're not, then they don't, simple as really.

Time generally earns trust.

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:18 pm
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It's that bloke at work you were having all the trouble with, isn't it?

 
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It was with a heavy heart that I sacrificed my international jet-setting playboy lifestyle.

The private jets to exotic far-flung destinations.
The yachts.
The weekends paragliding and kite-surfing
The visits, on a whim, to Michelin starred restaurants
The wild parties with Holywood A list stars

It was all worth it though. Do what you must.....

😀

 
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Wwaswas speaks sense. If you loikes him, then you'll be prepared to do less other stuff for a while. If it feels wrong doing that, then perhaps a re-evaluation is needed. Nice to hear you've met someone Sue. 🙂

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:26 pm
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[i]It was all worth it though.[/i]

Yes, you and hora do seem made for each other 😉

 
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Now, where's that pic...?

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:29 pm
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You sound at risk of becoming eternally single (scared of being hurt)- and turning it into a mindset/stuck in your own ways in the future?

for the first time in a very, very long time it feels like I've met someone I'd like to be with

This sounds good.

Give it a chance, explain your own interests and friends and he might be totally cool with that. Its early days and people gel/can mould to each other.

Don't be negative and don't sack him off. Give it a chance but don't keep saying 'no can, no busy then' etc - Tell him why BEFORE he starts to see it as an Elephant in the room.

Keeping friends/activities helps couples stay fresh and miss each other.

I know a couple who were joined at the hip. The bloke became suffocated and left for another woman. The girl in the relationship doesn't have any real friends (close ones now) as their friends were all shared and his interests became hers etc etc. How awful that is 🙁

For years MrsHora does her thing, I do mine and we then meet up afterwards. Its worked for 20yrs now.

Give it a chance. 🙂

 
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You need to make some compromises to be with him if you want to be. To be constantly saying no is not a positive way forward. Do you ever suggest meeting up?

Find / make the time - you don't have to give up everything for him but if you want the relationship to grow you need to find the time to nurture it

But part of me is also aware that I'm being a bit reluctant to get too involved with him as I don't want to get hurt in the future

this sounds more like the real reason not the lack of time perhpas?

 
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Sounds a bit like a movie script, bad rom-com.

"Busy, strong willed, single lady with no time for anyone in her life. How will she find love?"

You'd be played by Gwyneth Paltrow, and you'd initially be seduced by the "wrong" bloke (probably played by Matthew MacConnaughwhatsit) but realise that the other bloke was really the one for you (Colin Firth probably).

Or you'll end up like Miss Havisham from Great Expectations.

Maybe 🙂

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:32 pm
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You need to find out if he has a big schlong before commiting any time! 😀

 
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Or you'll end up like Miss Havisham from Great Expectations.

But with more cats.

 
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Binners - LOL! Think more 2nd class train travel and a bog standard business hotel! Unfortunately no champagne, wild parties, or dancing girls 🙂

johnners - you've just made me feel slightly queasy ...

Thanks for the comments - I guess you're right, you can't have a relationship if you're not prepared to give it chance to develop. wwaswas - managing an evening (or occassionally two) a week is probably where I'm at, but my days are usually pretty full with plans to go biking or climbing with friends. I'm also trying to see it from his perspective, and to think about how I'd feel if the situation was reversed and he was frequently saying to me that he didn't have time to see me. Hmmm?

But I'm a bit like a tortoise when it comes to my feelings - I'll stick my head out a bit, but am likely to dissappear back within my protective shell far to quickly. Best way to not get hurt is to not get involved in the first place, but it might now be too late for that!

wors - no comment 😀

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:37 pm
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If you have met someone, then surely you could give up your Friday night out on the prowl with the cougar pack 😉

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:38 pm
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I remember talking to a friend (who's opinion I respect) about a girl I was dating at the time. The conversation went something like this:

Me: "I'm seeing this girl but I'm not prepared to compromise on all the other things in my life [friends, travel, mountain biking and horse riding]."

Friend: "When you find the right person it won't be a compromise."

So true. I’m now in the (early stages) of a relationship that I'm very happy to be in.

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:39 pm
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Stick your neck out. If you get burned at least you can say you gave it your best shot.

Act tentatively and if he slips away you may think 'what if'.

Awful but true, its better to have loved and lost than never loved at all..

 
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How old are you? Where do you want to be in 5 / 10 years? Do you have husband / father material on your mind?

If you're young free and single and want to stay that way then carry on as you are, have fun, but be prepared for him to move on.

If you're looking / hoping for something to develop then you might have to make a bit of an effort. If you're waiting for something to happen and hoping that you won't have to make any compromises then you might have a long wait.

Also, if you do find someone who is prepared to let you have everything your own way now, then it might not bode well for you down the line when some of the shine has been rubbed off the relationship.

(I listened to a lot of Anna Rayburn when she was on Talk Radio!)

 
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If he's important to you, then you'll find time for him. If he's not, then you wont, and you'll soon realise.

Every single relationship out there is about compromise, and you have to choose how much give and take you are willing to offer.

If you're worried about being hurt in the future, then you have do decide for yourself if the risk of getting to know him, and the fun and future you both can have outweighs the potential of being hurt. If it's not, then either you're not in the right place to have a relationship right now, or he's not right for you.

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:41 pm
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Just do what feels right...

yup, if he's worth the compomises, you'll make them
if he's not, use him then lose him.

 
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An evening or two a week is fine - but can you not include him in your weekend plans - especially if he is a cyclist too. the added frisson of seeing each other in Lycra?

 
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rightplacerighttime - no, not looking for husband / father material! Nor in the 'young, free, single, looking for no ties fun' bracket either. Early 40's, spent most of my adult life in a long term, mainly positive relationship which ended 2 years ago. Separation was as amicable as these things can be, but hurt me dreadfully and left me feeling that I had lost everything. Two years on and I have a good, happy, fulfilling life, but now feel like I'm falling for someone again, and am wary of giving up too much of my current life in case it doesn't work out, and can't face ever being so hurt again.

dan1980 - don't know if I'm in the right place for a relationship? Is he the right person - well, I think about him a lot and it always makes me smile (plus I get that funny butterfly feeling 🙂 )

 
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I'm trying to think of something clever to say, but I'd just be regurgitating the wise words above. There's no guarantee this guy will fit in - and be a long-term fixture - in your life, but you're not going to know until you give it chance. That may mean compromises elsewhere. Your (true) friends will get it and they'll be there if it goes wrong or becomes the best thing that has ever happened to you (and everywhere in between).

How much time / commitment do you give a new relationship?

More than you are doing currently by the sounds of it.

 
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wary of giving up too much of my current life in case it doesn't work out

Aha, I think this is the crux. You can make space in your current life without having to "give up" anything. Not riding each and every weekend is not the same as giving up cycling (as all the STWers who are recent parents will testify to).

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 12:56 pm
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Hes a cyclist too. Now he might not be a mountain biker- he might be but your name is Sue.

What if he comes across this topic at any point in the future. When I search google it regularly brings up hits from STW two years on.

 
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Maybe that was the point Hora 😉

 
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i wouldn't worry about being found out asking for some other peoples opinions on here, tbh, it's about you, not him.

 
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So, for those of you who are single or starting new relationships, how do you find time for them? Do you end up letting go of some things in your life to make room for someone new? Or is there another approach?

I invite them to come riding, to the gym or to do some meditation etc. I am more than happy to teach/ride with someone I'm seeing, but there is no chance that I will forgo exercise to do something sedentary.

On the whole I do tend to see my friends a bit less, but something has to give.

My last girlfriend was pretty full on and wanted to see me all the time. She learned quite quickly that I need my own space, will ride my bike and hang out with my friends from time to time.

I find it a bit tricky with relationships now, as I put my health (physical and mental) before anything else. Unless the person is into exercise and keeping fit (or is willing to have a go) they soon find out that I spend a large part of my free time riding bikes or in the gym, and either they join in or see me less.

It is impossible to have a relationship without compromise, but it is working out which things you are willing to forgo

 
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Sue - from a girls point of view your proper friends will be chuffed to bits for you if ti works out and there for you if it doesn't....

....anyone else isn't worth worrying about.

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It was with a heavy heart that I sacrificed my international jet-setting playboy lifestyle.

The private jets to exotic far-flung destinations.
The yachts.
The weekends paragliding and kite-surfing
The visits, on a whim, to Michelin starred restaurants
The wild parties with Holywood A list stars

translates as

1) Easyjet to Scarborough
2) Inflatable at Southport
3) Throwing yourself off bridges in full bike leathers
4) Kebab houses
5) Tupperware parties with your mums freinds

Yes, I am worth it 😉

 
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johnners - you've just made me feel slightly queasy ...

You're by no means the first woman to say that...

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 1:06 pm
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I think it is all about compromise, my wife does not have any of the same interests as me at all and thinks i'm a plonker for enjoying pedalling around a muddy wood and spending a fair chunk of my time in A&E, but I think that is when you know you have met the right person when you are both happy to make those comprimises and doing so seems easy.

 
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What you've got isn't a lack of time, it's a lack of forward planning. Follow up every 'no' with a 'but, I'm free on the 27th'. (you can substitute the 27th for other dates)

you could give up your Friday night out on the prowl with the cougar pack

Aw, what will I do on Fridays then?

 
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and have a job that requires a fair bit of travel.

Change jobs.

How do you want to be remembered? As a person, or as a worker?

 
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f he's important to you, then you'll find time for him. If he's not, then you wont, and you'll soon realise.

Every single relationship out there is about compromise, and you have to choose how much give and take you are willing to offer.


THIS

If you want to have a relationship with him then you need to sacrifice something...if you dont you will end up not being in a relationship with him

 
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don't sack him off.

<does double take>

Phew, carry on 🙂

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 1:37 pm
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How much time / commitment do you give a new relationship?

17.3 minutes and 37.2% respectively.

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 1:38 pm
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If you don't [i]want[/i] to spend time with him, then, well..............
that's it I'm afraid.

 
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can't face ever being so hurt again.

Just remember, in the long run, we're all dead.

I think you've brought this up on here because you want us all to tell you what you already know.

I'm not really one for all of that self help mumbo jumbo, but I do believe that sometimes you have to "feel the fear and do it anyway."

Good luck.

 
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<does double take>

Phew, carry on

*applause*

can't face ever being so hurt again

That's a bit like never crossing the road ever again in case you get run over. Sure, you'll never be hurt, but you'll miss out on a lot of cool stuff too.

 
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My late 20's and early 30's has been a regular string of short term relationships which tend to break up after the 'in lust' phase passes, or sometimes during. Put simply committing properly to a relationship means compromising of the life I have and really love, and I haven't wanted to do that. There are times now when I avoid trying start a relationship, as I can see where it will end up and I don't won't to be dishonest or make promises I can't keep. Maybe I'll find someone that I am happy to make these compromises for, but I'm in no rush. Good luck.

 
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can't face ever being so hurt again.

Ever fallen of your bike?

Did you give up?
WTFU

 
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Some wise (and funny!) words above.

Time to have a think - I guess either I accept that (like everyone) I take a chance of getting hurt and go with it, or I decide to never risk it and stay single. And I think with him I like the first option best 🙂

As for if I [i]want[/i] to spend time with him? Well, yes, and when I do I seem to forget about everything else and am happy. It's just when I'm not with him, that all these other concerns come creeping in.

And at the moment, it's in those somewhat hedonistic early days, when there's lots of enthusiasm and I think that's what's prompting him to want to see me lots, and me to get scared!

 
Posted : 25/01/2012 2:24 pm
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it feels like I've met someone I'd like to be with.

Good luck Sue W, you've already got your answer. 🙂
Get on with it though. From a bloke's point of view, there will come a point when he might not keep asking if he starts to feel he's harrassing you.

 
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spent most of my adult life in a long term, mainly positive relationship which ended 2 years ago. Separation was as amicable as these things can be, but hurt me dreadfully and left me feeling that I had lost everything

Examine this statement from another angle. For 20 years you had everything, a balance between a good relationship, hobbies and your friends. Because you were prepared to take a leap into the unknown. Knowing this, you should just go for it and do what you enjoy doing. That should mean that you spend more time with your new partner and do slightly less in other areas. Have fun 🙂

 
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On a contrary note to all the other posters here, I would say you don't need to go out of your way just yet to put the constant commitment and compromise in just yet. You say you see him 2 or 3 times a week - what's wrong with that?
I would just relax with the situation - maybe bring it up with him, but don't assume that there is some threshold, under which you're not officially in a relationship. Personally, I love it when a girl has her own life, passions and interests. I would hate it if her entire life was just spending time with me - she would be so much less interesting.

Don't hurry it. As long as he doesn't get the wrong idea.

(Then of course, I'm 31 and still single, so what the hell do I know?)

 
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Scary thread.

Do you like cats?

 
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From a bloke's point of view, there will come a point when he might not keep asking if he starts to feel he's harrassing you.

Possibly sooner rather than later as well. It can be hard to put things together again when one party has felt rejected or ignored by the other in an early part of the relationship when you don't really know where you stand.

 
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translates as

1) Easyjet to Scarborough
2) Inflatable at Southport
3) Throwing yourself off bridges in full bike leathers
4) Kebab houses
5) Tupperware parties with your mums freinds

😆

 
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wors, I think they've done it and the schlong dimensions are positive:

t's in those somewhat hedonistic early days

 
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Nice one! take it easy and get him out with your mates for rides n stuff, then sue time in the eve. Sorted!

 
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List the positives in your life and I reckon you'll include this new man. List the negatives and if your job doesn't top the list then you've been grossly misleading us. Now work on giving more time to the positives and less to the negatives (if you can't can't change job as Peter wisely suggests).

 
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I'm not sure if this is a first for STW ... but I listened to some of the advice on here 😯

Had a slight wobble - ie the "I'm not sure if this is what I want" panic mode text ... But he was so nice about it, and happy to give me all the space and time I wanted, that I stopped and remembered some of the comments on here. So I finally WTFU, and now feel OK about us spending time together ... actually more than OK ... rather happy and smiling far too much for a Monday 🙂

Cheers guys, sometimes you speak words of wisdom ...

 
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🙂

 
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Hope it all goes well for you Sue - enjoy!!
*is only the teensiest weensiest bit jealous*
Has he got any single mates??

 
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Just in case any ladies get any ideas, I am [i][u][b]NOT[/i][/u][/b] single, OK?

 
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Oh and the same goes for the fellas.

 
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I'd maybe talk to him about it as well in a non-heavy way. More along the lines of - i like you, i'm a bit broken so might be a bit random but that is just the way it is. Communication is everything. Guessing is dangerous. Good luck. Nice to see a postive thing happening to someone and not posts of drunk chavs on trains 😯

 
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SueW

Sounds like a very promising start and one I would be very happy with in your shoes.

Instead of appearing to turn him down, and if it's not a step too far in this early stage, why not check out diaries for the next few weeks and sort it out that way.

Good luck 😀

 
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This is brilliant, and rather ****ing excellent news

I'm ever so pleased for you my lovely 8)

*kisses*

 
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A happy thread!
We should have it stuffed.

Sue, if you're half as nice in real life as you are on here, then he's a lucky chap indeed.

Spring's on the way, days getting longer - enjoy yourselves 🙂

 
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Like my dad told me once - work, relationship, hobbies... pick two. Well not entirely like that, but very hard to give enough time to them all. One of them will eventually crumble.

 
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Can we ask the most important question?

Have you touched his monkey yet?

 
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Thanks guys!

and Crikey - LOL ... 🙂

 
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... actually more than OK ... rather happy and smiling far too much for a Monday

The excitement you get early on in a relationship......you cant beat this feeling, cherish it 😀

I have no advice and if you knew me you wouldn't ask for it 🙂 but just go with it and see what happens naturally, try not to have any pre-conceptions about where its going, what does it all mean - just enjoy the happiness youre feeling now. Good luck 🙂

 
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Awwww... I'm dead pleased for you 🙂

Now you have the dreary monotony of a long term relationship to loof forward to.

 
Posted : 31/01/2012 8:57 am