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...for this wall to wall coverage on 6 and no doubt BBC2 at the weekend?
The coverage is fantastic. stop whining
I'm not whining. But other festivals don't get it and Glastonbury is a commercial venture.
I'm not listening atm, but I can imagine the 6 music coverage to be rather tedious and pretentious.
I don't think I've turned 6 on since they had Kae (nee Kate) Tempest standing in the other night. Eurghh
That said, no issues with them (BBC) covering it in depth - the only thing that irks me is (as they do with all big events) is making out that if you can't make it there, it doesn't matter, because they will transport you there with their coverage. Not really like being there, is it?
For 3 weeks of hearing songs you love being played badly? All day, every day on 6 Music.
and Glastonbury is a commercial venture.
So what? The BBC aren't advertising tickets for sale (Glastonbury don't need help with that) and it means that the event is much more accessible to everyone. And bear in mind that the Festival gives quite a significant sum to local and international charities each year.
Not really like being there, is it?
They should sell room fresheners that emit whiffs of incense/piss and BO to help transport you while you listen to Florence (of the Machine) singing out of tune.
The BBC has rights to so little these days that it tends to go overboard with the coverage. See also Eurovision, Olympics etc.
There's always some gems to be found, but you really have to dig around in the coverage to find them.
But other festivals don’t get it and Glastonbury is a commercial venture.
It's also a major cultural event, not to mention one of the oldest and biggest festivals of it's type in the world, so I'd expect the main public service broadcaster to be giving it a lot of coverage.
I don’t think I’ve turned 6 on since they had Ka(t)e Tempest
Not sure if you don't realise the significance of deadnaming, or it's deliberate. If the former, I suggest you read up a bit. If the latter, then you need to take a good look at yourself.
For 3 weeks of hearing songs you love being played badly? All day, every day on 6 Music.
i've had to switch R6 off this morning. FIP for the next few days.
the only thing that irks me is (as they do with all big events) is making out that if you can’t make it there, it doesn’t matter, because they will transport you there with their coverage. Not really like being there, is it?
Not unless you block up your bog, piss in the corner of the room, pour cider on yourself and roll around in the garden for a bit before you watch it.
Pook - You probably know the BBC pay Glastonbury for exclusive broadcast rights.
As they do/used to for Wimbledon, the Olympics etc.
Ka(t)e Tempest
Kae (nee Kate) Tempest
Well, it's clearly a drum you're keen to bang, so what's your point?
Pook
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I’m not whining. But other festivals don’t get it and Glastonbury is a commercial venture.
Hear hear! It is tedious; it also does nothing to dispel any perceptions that the BBC is targeted at, and biased towards, white middle class folks. Where's the equivalent coverage and endless discussion of, say, the Notting Hill carnival or other more multicultural and multisocial festivals?
I don't mind the coverage but do hate the continuous reference to it that will be dropped into every DJs vacuous braindump for the next 6months. I have rage everytime I hear "south by Southwest".
What’s your point?
That Kae Tempest was formerly known as Kate??????
Don't go looking for nonsense
I don't know what pronoun Kae goes by, but he/she/they is hugely annoying to my ears. The end
I suspect the question is the wrong way round and should be how much do the BBC pay Glastonbury for the broadcast rights
Where’s the equivalent coverage and endless discussion of, say, the Notting Hill carnival or other more multicultural and multisocial festivals?
Why would a local parade in a London suburb warrant national TV coverage?
the only bit i'm annoyed about is that i'm not there...
i quite like the coverage - hopefully a few less mainstream acts get some decent press. obviously the big hitters are just that but for me the main events are the smaller acts getting to be part of the big show.
it really is amazing/bonkers to be there - if you get the chance definitely go
Yeah. I've turned 6 off. Festival music on the radio is a bit crap. Quite like watching some of it on the tele though. Just checked and it's all through the day ffs. Break it up a bit at least.
local parade in a London suburb
Have you ever been? It's flipping massive and international (and bloody fun, rip Sancho Panza).
Edit. Wiki gives me 2 million attendees, 40,000 volunteers!
I suspect the question is the wrong way round and should be how much do the BBC pay Glastonbury for the broadcast rights
They have resisted media questions (and FOI requests) on the subject.
The FOI requests were probably from the Daily Mail TBF.
Love the coverage on the BBC. As a veteran of 6 Glastonbury's back in the 90s I can't wait to sit back and watch the highlights without having to spend 5 consecutive days stood up pissed in either baking heat or pouring rain.
1Xtra have pretty extensive Notting Hill coverage, don't they?
The tickets sell out so fast. I always wonder how many are taken up with media and celebs. The place is crawling with them.
Love the coverage on tv, but don't tend to listen on the radio.
Pook – You probably know the BBC pay Glastonbury for exclusive broadcast rights.
No, literally no idea which way the money goes
I love a bit of Glasto, i can't wait to get involved this year....from the comfort of my own couch! 🙂
I think the BBC (TV) do a good job in coverage and i always find a couple of new bands to listen to off the back of it.
6Music, its pretty relentless and i wonder how many times someone will say 'that's a Glastonbury moment'. Moaning about nothing frankly.
The BBC/Glastonbury relationship does play to the worst smug stereotypes. I mean there is some good stuff and I've been to a few over the years but really it makes neither party look good.
The BBC/Glastonbury relationship does play to the worst smug stereotypes.
What are those stereotypes? Music ‘journalists’/presenters going overboard for a freebie is hardly limited to the BBC. For the BBC its very cheap content (gives them the opportunity to spend stupid amounts for tennis & football highlights).
Bunch of ****ers 😀
Sorry slight thread hijack, I'd never heard of deadnaming before, now I've looked it up and have a (slight) understanding of why it might not be acceptable, how are you supposed to communicate to someone that the Kae Tempest you are talking about is the same artist they enjoyed listening too when they were called Kate Tempest and not another artists with a coincidentally similar name? Or are we supposed to assess the merits of Kae Tempest on their own, and not connect the 2 oevres at all?
how are you supposed to communicate to someone that the Kae Tempest you are talking about is the same artist they enjoyed listening too when they were called Kate Tempest
I'm not an expert on these matters by any means, but I'm sure that would count as explaining their identity change, rather than deadnaming.
how are you supposed to communicate to someone that the Kae Tempest you are talking about is the same artist they enjoyed listening too when they were called Kate Tempest and not another artists with a coincidentally similar name?
Tact and common sense, mainly.
If there's some confusion or loss of reputation from such a change, that's just a cost they'll have to absorb.
It's typical BBC conformist, white mainstream and dull.
Have a nice time if you like that sort of thing.
Not sure if you don’t realise the significance of deadnaming, or it’s deliberate. If the former, I suggest you read up a bit. If the latter, then you need to take a good look at yourself.
He knows exactly what he posted, and he's got the response he desired
wish we were going this year the lineup is top banana
like it or not, it's an unparalleled cultural event that is globally unique. It is right that it should be on the national broadcaster (see the proms, wimbledon, olympics, eurovision, and so on). Whoever pays who, its probably not enough; both sides benefit significantly, BBC gets more hits, festival gets acts for less money.
+ the best stuff is not on tv so don't worry
Re Kae Tempest - I used to miss-hear the pronunciation and be convinced she was a Kate - but what of it if she wants to use a different name? Lots of people have stage names. I really like her singles and she seems pretty smart. Not sure I could listen to a whole album as her accent tends to do my head in but that says more about me than her for sure.
The Glasto overload on R6 is a little overwhelming and I concur with the comments about not seeing the value in broadcasting live performances on the radio but then I also don't understand "live albums" for anyone who wasn't there.
The most frustrating thing is that getting tickets is a mission (we didn't) and we've 2 young kids that would get lost in the first 10 minutes if we took them.
Just looking at the lineup there's so many performances I would love to see. But even there you can't be everywhere at once - at least you can do that (kind of) with the BEEB. . . .
He knows exactly what he posted, and he’s got the response he desired
I actually had no idea what deadnaming was, so with the greatest of respect - get ******
I just wish at some point they would actually tell the truth.
You see some shocking performances by a bamd that are ambivalent or hammered and Joe Wiley and Wedgy Yates proclaim it to be the bestest thing of the best band that they discovered first and are their biggest fans like, ever.
Please. Just say they have been enjoying the hospitality tent a little too much or blame a technical fault if the levels are off.
Ps l know Jo and Reggie probably last compared Glastonbury coverage 6 years ago but you know exactly what i mean.
I've seen Kae Tempest a couple of times live now, they were OK, but this clip of them _on the bbc_ from 2017, which I missed live due to being elsewhere, should be seen by everyone.
Sky's coverage of the IOW festival was awful before you mention the sound quality. The BBC coverage is bafta winning in comparison
Love the glastonbury coverage on TV and its much better now that you can use the red-button or whatever to watch acts that aren't just the headliners on the Pyramid Stage which can be pretty bland.
I've never been to Notting Hill carnival but assume that covering it live on TV would be a whole different ball game from a logistical/operational perspective.
I don’t think I’ve turned 6 on since they had Kae (nee Kate) Tempest standing in the other night. Eurghh
Tell me you're transphobic, without telling me you're transphobic.
You know that was one show? Boycotting the entire station since then seems a little extreme.
Tell me you’re transphobic, without telling me you’re transphobic.
You know that was one show? Boycotting the entire station since then seems a little extreme.
Thanks for your judgement, but I couldn't stand to listen to Kae when they were Kate and had no idea whatsoever about their gender identity, before I googled the other night to see if Kae was indeed the previously known as Kate
I haven't not listened to 6 because they have a non-binary presenter ffs
But other festivals don’t get it and Glastonbury is a commercial venture.
Have you ever actually been to any other festivals?
Not even the people who attend the likes of Reading or Leeds can be arsed watching the crap lineups they generally have, so unless you're suddenly possessed with the urge to watch Kasabian have loads of beer and piss chucked at them, the appeal is pretty limited
The Glastonbury line-up is always brilliant in comparison with loads of variety on multiple stages
I've done Glastonbury a few times back when my idea of heaven was spending 3 days munching my way through a massive bag of pills, washed down with Stella, but these days I like to watch it on the tellybox from the sofa with a glass of wine and knowing my trip to bed will involve a flight of stairs, not some hellish, apocalyptic trudge through seas of tents and bodies while hallucinating and paranoid 😀
It’s typical BBC conformist, white mainstream and dull.
Hi! 😀
Have a nice time if you like that sort of thing.
Thanks. I Will
Christ this place has become toxic, as far as I can see @TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsStr has said nothing offensive about Kae Tempest, didn't seem to stop a bunch of you piling on, either for a bit of virtue signalling or just cos you are unpleasant tw**s, it doesn't matter. Just wind your bloody necks in. You're ruining this place.
Looking forward to my local festival this year after being cancelled for obvious reasons
Stereophonics and MSP are definitely not my thing, but seen them both before at the festival and they were actually great. Quite a lot on the line-up I'm looking forward to and I usually moan about it.
3 miles from home, so can go for a proper shower if you want (I don't), but will be in the caravan with cooking facilities, a proper bed, toilet, shower and a fridge full of cold beer
Christ this place has become toxic, as far as I can see @TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsStr has said nothing offensive about Kae Tempest, didn’t seem to stop a bunch of you piling on, either for a bit of virtue signalling or just cos you are unpleasant tw**s, it doesn’t matter. Just wind your bloody necks in. You’re ruining this place.
Standard form on here, but cheers for the level headedness
it really is amazing/bonkers to be there – if you get the chance definitely go
Yeah I have been a few times over the years culminating in getting almost to the very front of the Pyramid stage in 2015 for The Who after slowing making my way forwards between sets from mid-afternoon. Unfortunately I have been unsuccessful each year since in the ballot.
But other festivals don’t get it and Glastonbury is a commercial venture
Aren't all festivals commercial ventures?
Do other festivals also donate a couple of £m to their chosen charity also?
in the festival spirit, let's give str the benefit of the doubt.
we’ve 2 young kids that would get lost in the first 10 minutes if we took them.
Going with kids opens a whole new side of it. Nowadays it is great fun to go to with kids. It is safe and they will not get lost. There is a lot of stuff I would never have seen / done otherwise. Obviously you need to set your expectations about late night time, but on the other hand, you will be more likely to remember it. My youngest has her picture in the program from one year getting her face painted /bless/
I reckon at some point there will be 3 generations of us there.
so unless you’re suddenly possessed with the urge to watch Kasabian have loads of beer and piss chucked at them
OT, but does anyone listen to Kasabian other than at a festival?
Wow, King Pleasure and the Biscuit Boys are still going (looking at the Y Not line up).
They used to play the VD Centre at Aston Uni in about 1990.
Best thing about festivals for me is discovering new bands, though Download is more my thing.
OT, but does anyone listen to Kasabian other than at a festival?
Noel Fielding i think. But that's about it.
I’m not whining. But other festivals don’t get it and Glastonbury is a commercial venture.
It's more of a social enterprise. The organisers take a salary, I think Michael and Emily earn £60k a year from it. A lot more than most, but a lot less almost anyone else who owns such a valuable business. They aim to make a profit of around £2m per year, which gets donated to charity. In fact in some years they donate more than they make, they run about a £10m cash reserve which allows them to do things like survive Covid, have rest years and keep a full time staff of around 50.
Personally I went to Glastonbury a few times over the years when I was younger, the TV show really doesn't tell the story of what it's like away from the stages. It's far from mainstream and dull, whoever said that has obviously never been.
I enjoy watching some of it on the TV every year, from the comfort of my Sofa with a beer and reminiscing about when I was young and spent the whole weekend in one long party.
I'm sure there are loads of smaller, more niche festivals to appeal to the Hipster crowd, and I#ve enjoyed them too, but Glastonbury is really very special.
Sorry the OP doesn't like, it but I find it hard understand why they'd be so upset about it - most of it's tucked away on the Red Button so it doesn't get in the way of The Wall or whatever the BBC usually puts out at the weekend. I just don't get the hatred.
Christ this place has become toxic, as far as I can see @TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsStr has said nothing offensive about Kae Tempest, didn’t seem to stop a bunch of you piling on, either for a bit of virtue signalling or just cos you are unpleasant tw**s, it doesn’t matter. Just wind your bloody necks in. You’re ruining this place.
What they said was pretty unpleasant - intentionally or not. It's nice to know the forum doesn't tolerate said unpleasantness.
P-Jay - it's wall to wall on 6Music ATM and if you're a regular listener but not into Glasto (or live music/festivals in general) it might have begun to grate already
Best thing about festivals for me is discovering new bands
Yeah I discovered Toploader that way - they were a random band I had never heard of and first up (well, after the Glastonbury Town Band) on The Other Stage before they had released Oka's Big Moka – I thought they were great and wondered why on earth they were so far down the bill.
TBF, that Glastonbury energy didn't translate to the album though - it was dreadful.
As others have said there is sooooo much more to Glasto than the music.
Anyway's, I like the coverage on the bBC with the red button, and hearing it on the radio is tolerable, although the whole thing makes me want to be there.
Radio 6 tends to make a fortnight's worth of material of whatever they've been to currently, whether that be Glastonbury, the Radio 6 weekender, Lattitude or Wimbledon.
I was just about to say condolences for discovering Toploader…
Yeah I discovered Toploader that way
Toploader played at my local pub "festival" a couple of weeks ago, they launched into "dancing in the moonlight" accompanied by the local Morris dancers clicking sticks to it.
The singer was heard to say " well, this is a first"
I avoid most Glastonbury coverage these days. I miss the guy who could do this,
I’ve done Glastonbury a few times back when my idea of heaven was spending 3 days munching my way through a massive bag of pills, washed down with Stella, but these days I like to watch it on the tellybox from the sofa with a glass of wine and knowing my trip to bed will involve a flight of stairs, not some hellish, apocalyptic trudge through seas of tents and bodies while hallucinating and paranoid 😀
What they said was pretty unpleasant – intentionally or not. It’s nice to know the forum doesn’t tolerate said unpleasantness.
Jesus Christ, get a grip
If Kae doesn't want any reference made to the name their parents gave them, fair enough. Maybe that YouTube vid should be taken down? 🙄
People getting their knickers in a twist about it, is quite frankly ridiculous
I don't want to listen to Kae Tempest ranting on in the same way I have no time for Billy Bragg, or Stewart Lee, nothing to do with gender choice
Looking forward to my local festival this year after being cancelled for obvious reasons
We're giving it a miss this year. Didn't know how we'd be fixed due to house move so got a refund after last years cancellation.
Giving Rock and Blues a try at Pentrich (as we can walk to it from our new abode!). Harnessing my 80's rock persona and we don't need to commit to 4 days of guaranteed rain. 🙂
Catch Dinosaur Pile Up if you can though.
...and Kelis won't turn up! 🙂
\m/
BBC also had some download coverage, just that it's spread out over months in the rock show instead of wall to wall. But that's because download is way nicher than glastonbury. And Radio 1 definitely covered Reading last time i was there, because we spoiled a live broadcast by shouting abuse at Mary Anne Hobbes
Glasto is after all the festival that you have to buy tickets for before you know who's playing it, so it's the perfect match for the radio where you want to listen to music but you don't know what.
Festival coverage has got to be cheap content tbh.
But other festivals don’t get it and Glastonbury is a commercial venture.
See also Football vs other sports.
Money, innit?
King Pleasure and the Biscuit Boys are still going
Saw them in Burnley a few years ago. The kids were unimpressed, but I didn't care. 🙂
I miss the guy who could do this,
He had to calm down a bit after marrying Cat Deeley. 🙂
As a local ( well 5 miles down the road ) who has never been , but like music but festivals not my thing can I just say stop with all the references to Glastonbury as for Glasto 🤢 are you the same people who go on hollibobs not holidays and have Fam not family the festival is held in PILTON which if you've ever been is a village at least 3 miles from my home town 🙄
As for Auntie Beeb and her saturation coverage they were talking about trains to Glastonbury won't be disrupted by the rail strike , oh really ? 🤔 The station in Glastonbury was a victim of Dr Beeching almost 60 years ago now
Those travelling by train will alight at Castle Cary get bussed directly to PILTON then after do the same in reverse never actually setting foot in Glastonbury 🙄
The unfortunate fallout of the mystical marketing of Glastonbury over many years / centuries is we now have a very real problem of ex hippies and layabouts blighting the town with their unroadworthy vehicles and the associated problems that go with it partly due to these people being encouraged to come and a lot of them decided to stay 😡😡😡😡
it’s wall to wall on 6Music ATM and if you’re a regular listener but not into Glasto (or live music/festivals in general) it might have begun to grate already
I like 6 music and Glasto, but the none stop bleating about it had me swapping channels at about 9am 🤣🤣
Now we're over the talk about getting there and the build p before it starts, It's making good background music whilst working from home.
But I'm hoping for wall to wall coverage...quite excited by the top few on the John Peel stage on Friday, or the Waterboys on saturday
The Pulp and Beyonce live stuff today has been pretty dreadful at the times I've listened.
Kae, like them or not is capable of performing long, complex, rhythmic poems that deserve respect not derision. I saw them supporting Dan Le Sac and Scroobius Pip many moons ago and *was well impressed*.
The shear wall to wall coverage by 6 does get tedious, but what am I going to do, listen to Kiss?
And they'll keep bleating about it for about 2 weeks afterwards too. And repeating the same gigs over and over again
The unfortunate fallout of the mystical marketing of Glastonbury over many years / centuries is we now have a very real problem of ex hippies and layabouts blighting the town with their unroadworthy vehicles and the associated problems that go with it partly due to these people being encouraged to come and a lot of them decided to stay 😡😡😡😡
Took a quick trip to the Tor last year and found a parking space just near the entrance to the path to the top. Looked like lots of vans were there for the long term waiting for mystical apparitions to appear 🤔
Kae, like them or not is capable of performing long, complex, rhythmic poems that deserve respect not derision
That video posted on the previous page is my first, and hopefully last, experience of Kae. Absolutely abysmal. Whatever the Chinese are doing to the Uighur, it can't be as bad as have to sit through a Kae Tempest performance
I’d never heard of Kate Tempest before, but that video clip was excellent. I’ll be looking for more about them.
That video posted on the previous page is my first, and hopefully last, experience of Kae. Absolutely abysmal. Whatever the Chinese are doing to the Uighur, it can’t be as bad as have to sit through a Kae Tempest performance
Lolz 😂😂😂
Agree
I’d never heard of Kate Tempest before, but that video clip was excellent. I’ll be looking for more about them
Who is this Kate you speak of? 🤔
Have to agree about Sky's IOW coverage
Makes you realise how hard it is to cover a festival!
Festivals sound pretty dire on the radio, but they can be a good watch on TV
I tend to avoid Glastonbury on tv, as being honest I get jealous I'm not there!
And while I've seen some great bands there, personal highlights have always been all the other stuff that goes on the atmos , random encounters and new discoveries, making friends and being with mates- all whilst completely off my face
And I'm far too old for that business now
If you didn’t catch it the other day, the BBC documentary Glastonbury: 50 Years and Counting Is well worth a viewing.
The black and white footage of the early 70’s with all the hippies off their tits on acid rolling around in the mud is brilliant!
The black and white footage of the early 70’s with all the hippies off their tits on acid rolling around in the mud is brilliant!
My first glasto - mid 90s- was before the big fence went up, it was insanely overcrowded, dirty, unhygienic, stuff got nicked, but an amazing experience just because there were so many completely off their head hippies! The dance tent was unreal.
The last time I went, about 15 years ago?
It was all designer wellies, selfies and people doing coke
Definitely not the same!
We’re giving it a miss this year. Didn’t know how we’d be fixed due to house move so got a refund after last years cancellation.
Giving Rock and Blues a try at Pentrich (as we can walk to it from our new abode!). Harnessing my 80’s rock persona and we don’t need to commit to 4 days of guaranteed rain. 🙂
Catch Dinosaur Pile Up if you can though.
…and Kelis won’t turn up! 🙂
Shame, I'm buzzing for it this year
Heard a bit about R&B, have a few biker mates that go - nothing wrong with a bit of rock/blues - I have Planet Rock on 90% of the time.
Fancy Download, but never got round to it - that's usually a mud fest, but seems I missed out this year
Also fancied Bearded Theory - Placebo were headlining, but just got too much on this year. GnR kicks it all off a week on Sat
Hopefully Y-not won't be 4 days of rain - it's usually just the last 2, but when it comes, it bloody comes haha
And yeah - of course she won't!!!! Ha
The BBC must pay some one for this. The broadcast rights of the songs minimum
before the big fence went up, it was insanely overcrowded, dirty, unhygienic, stuff got nicked, but an amazing experience
Yip. My first one was 89, when the whole acid house thing was kicking off big time. I barely remember who was on the main stage. It was all about the sound systems on the peripheries. It was absolutely baking hot. We were frazzled, literally and metaphorically by the end of the weekend. 😃