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My Peugeot Partner is approaching replacement, and this time I'd like something even more economical.
What is your car and does it do better than 50MPG? I'd particularly like to hear real world driving figures for cars that have very high combined MPG test figures; VW Polo bluemotion for example.
peugeot 206 est diesel 64 mpg only 1.4 but enough power for family of 4 2 little ones with bikes and kit on
seat ibiza 1.9 tdi 130 bhp goes like a rocket returns between 56-60 mpg on commute and knocking about not had it lon enough to get a good motorway journey out of it both 04 plates
About 60 easily Golf MkVI TDi 140
Currently Honda Civic TypeR about 30 MPG if driven liek a granny.
I have on order a VW Passat 170BHP Bluemotion, had one on test, drove it like a tool and still got very near to 50, 49.something
6.5 miles to the litre - less if round town or towing
Driving around town and general use = 22.3mpg
Driving long motorways with cruise control at 70 = 29.8mpg
Driving long motorways with cruise control at 95 = 25.4mpg
The long tests to get these figures have been repeated several time on one particularly dull commute which is between 2 - 3 hours each way. They are normally within 0.1mpg of the numbers shown and I was surprised how consistent there were.
6 litre V12 Merc
karnali - Member
seat ibiza 1.9 tdi 130 bhp goes like a rocket returns between 56-60 mpg on commute and knocking about not had it lon enough to get a good motorway journey out of it both 04 plates
I have one of these.
My driving is mainly a-roads & motorways. When I used to go everywhere at 70mph and wasn't particularly driving for economy, 55mpg was fairly typical (measured, not based on the computer reading).
Now I have started driving a bit more conservatively, I generally don't go above 60mph on my commute and am much more concious of driving for economy I get over 60mpg consistently.
A friend at work recently got rid of a Fabia estate - the latest shape with the 1.6TDi engine. He used to easily get mid-60s out of that.
Between 5 and 6
Heavily modified R32
Depending on how acurate the computer thing is my A180 diesel merc reckons it's done 48.4mpg on average over the last 21,000+ miles (how many I've done since I got it).
Motorway runs it'll do 60mpg, town/commute sit's around 43-43mpg.
Average according to the compooter is 44.5mpg. Saab 9-3 1.9Tid estate sport linear blah blah blah thingy.
It's blue.
2.0l petrol Ford Focus around 34mpg (down from 37mpg as new) - based on the dash computer rather than doing maffs.
Touran 2.0tdi DSG - averaged 46mpg over last 4 years. Though i do have a pretty heavy foot....
just had a bluemotion Passat estate as a hire car.. was doing 55-60 on the m'way
My car does 20-28 mpg...
Between 5 and 6Heavily modified R32
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Pictures and videos please!
Hi
Ford Focus Zetec 1.6 diesel 2008. Motorway driving at 60 mph you can get 70+mpg. Around town around 45-55mpg. The usual average is high 50s to lower 60s. Plus the road tax is only £30 per annum.
Great car, easy to look after, nice spec, cheap and reliable.
Hope that helps
Of course the question is: why the chuff do we measure mpg when we sell petrol in litres?
Seems to me we should be using mpl, no?
Or perhaps the far more relevant number: £/m
I bet a dashboard computer showing that would change a few driving habits!
Volvo V70 2.0d - 35mpg no matter how I drive, what I put in / on it and what I tow....
Looking at one of those partner tipee things.....Need space and economy... whats it like??
2.0 diesel Mondeo, 54mpg @ 70mph, 46mpg @ 80mph, about 45mpg round town all according to on board computer anyway.
averages about 60, up to 70 on long motorway journeys. Audi A2 TDI
64.1mpg from the computer in my 1.5 Megane. It is generally a little higher in the summer and a little lower at the end of the winter, it is also about 5mpg lower if Mrs Lunge drives it... That is for 5 days per week on an 80 mile round commute of motorways and a-roads.
2.0 diesel Vectra. 45 mpg about town. Better on a long run.
I don't know the speedo's in km/h. Sorry. 🙁
LEON FR 2.0 TFSi DSG - according to the onboard MFA anywhere between 27.5 - 28.9
edit: that's based on work commute of about 13 miles each way - no motorway miles
S-Max Tdi140 here, just a smidge over 40mpg round town, 52-55 steady run, about 46 overall. Plenty of space, economy good enough given how nice it is to be in and how big it is. I'll squeeze a few more mpg out of it once I adapt from the high revving Honda and choose the right gear now and again.
Honda Stream VTEC petrol 1.7, 34mpg overall.
03 plate VW Passat estate TDi.
Long journeys with kit in the boot: 53 mpg
Normal driving round town, to work and back: 45 mpg
Loving it.
a2 is winning so far...
litres per 100km is the metric equivalent.
Mondeo diesel 130bhp
50 mpg at 85mph
47.5 mpg other times, heavy right foot
Think I've had it down to 37-38 ish when I really ragged it through the Dales one day. (computer figures)
Saab convertible 2l turbo. About 28mpg on long motorway jaunts at 65mph with the roof down.
Luckily most of the time it's broken down. 🙁
Mondeo Estate 2.0 TDCi 140, 57 plate currently returning 48.2mpg across the last 4 tankfuls of diesel, combination of 25 mile commute and short around town trips.
We had a similar need.
Peugeot 206 1.9 naturally aspirated diesel... 50 & 55 mpg was not uncommon for the sort of driving being done - 30 mile journeys mainly on a dual carriage way.
We moved to a Civic diesel 2.2 and real world initially got 52mpg but more recently 55mpg is fairly easy to achieve and would get 60mpg coming up on more frugal journeys
To be honest the majority of our driving is longer journeys and motorway type.
Round town the Honda gets mid 40's
It makes no sense really as the 206 is red and the civic is grey - everyone knows that red cars are better and so should have been more economical, faster, etc.
The Civic is a hoot though and whilst not as good in the corners as the Focus equivalent it does embarrass a fair few drivers of sportier cars.....just not from the lights
megane 1.5 dci 106 bhp.
I'm not easy on it, but at the same time i don't abuse it.
combined fignure of 48mpg. I've had it up to 68mpg though
just noticed this:lunge - Member
64.1mpg from the computer in my 1.5 Megane. It is generally a little higher in the summer and a little lower at the end of the winter, it is also about 5mpg lower if Mrs Lunge drives it... That is for 5 days per week on an 80 mile round commute of motorways and a-roads.
HOW?!?!?!?!?!
(the 68mpg I mentioned was on a 350 mile round trip when I was driving miss daisy)
My Skoda Roomster 105bhp 1.2 TSI petrol does around 50mpg depending on how hard I drive it. The Fabia is a little better as more streamlined.
Golf Estate, 1.6Tdi Bluemotion. Showing (from the onboard computer) an average of 55mpg in the 11,000 miles I've done in it. I get silly mileage on a run (had it up to an indicated 73mpg on a slowish 100 mile run up tha A1), but it is very senstive to the way you drive it.
VW Golf GT-TDI 130bhp Estate, 03, 90k
On the MPG No.2 computer that has never been reset - 50mpg
Been trying to hit the magic 50mpg for about 3-4 months, with it avg. 49.8 for ages on that trip!
On long MW trips I can hit 700 miles to a tank & avg. 60mpg+ with cruise set.
With 4 bikes on the roof, fully kitted up with camping clobber & with all seats taken, I avg 45mpg back from SSUK recently.
Been bombproof so far, very sloppy handling and no real thrill to drive though, but its been a good motor
old duratec mondeo estate, 45mpg on average (1999 on 183,000 miles)
costs significantly less to run than my mates tdci 130 mondeo (which will do 55mpg, but just had £800 of injector), but is also significantly less nice 🙂
mx5 does an average of around 30mpg, does 35 on a run and did 22 round the ring\gp circuit
eta : mpg is a silly way of measuring things, as the difference between, 40mpg and 75mpg is less than that between 25 and 40 (which is obvious if you work it out). also fuel is still a small proportion of most people's motoring costs (even with complete bangernomics its only 50% of the cost, if I ran a new car it'd be around 25%)
Toyota MR2 Turbo 240 bhp. Around 28 mpg measured with rack + bike on the roof.
Modified Clio sport 15MPG
Citroen c5 estate 2.2 HDI 45MPG around town 50-55MPG on a longer run (re-mapped) for economy though. Before it got around 31MPG around town.
Petrol 1.6 focus C-max.
34mpg driving arround
47 on motorways cruising arround 65.
morgs, basically by driving like an old man. I never go above 70mph on the motorways, I coast up to junctions and generally try to avoid stopping if possible. I accelerate slowly and coast down hills if I can. I very rarely use the aircon, I keep the tyres at the right preasure and I try and keep the boot empty.
I took the decision a couple of years ago that I would take an extra 6 or 8mpg over arriving home 5 mins earlier. It seems to have worked and my fuel bills have dropped nicely.
Generally about 40mpg. Nissan Almera 1.8 petrol with a slush box so not the most economical set up but I do drive with economy in mind. Hey this might connect to the thread of when did you realise you became your dad! 😉
Anyways that sort of mpg is done on a commute from Oxford to Newbury every day so mix of dual and town driving. Last tank included a trip into London with shite traffic in town and last fridays hell that was the A34 as some muppet pranged again and it dropped to 39mpg. Non of your computer estimates here - this is good old maths coming up with these figures!
30mpg ish, 1999 Volvo V70 2.5 Turbo, love it.
VW Caddy 1.9 TDi - 43 mpg (average over last 6k miles)
The new Vauxhall Ampera aparently does 175mpg!
But that seems to be with a little manipulation of the truth
sold my 1.5dci clio about 1 year ago.
worst economy it ever got was 59mpg. more commonly mid-high 60s but 75 was not unachievable (smooth motorway miles at 60 for a whole tank.)
The Ampera is a plug-in in hybrid. The MPG test for plug in vehicles is different so I don't really think they can be compared.
If you only drive it in electric mode it will get much more than 175 mpg (in terms of fuel cost/mile) but if you drive it further than ~ 40 miles without a recharge it is worse than a standard diesel.
plug in electric cars are measured differently. I think they claim the average car does xx journey (say 50 miles) and as you can do 30 miles on the charge, you're only using 20miles worth of fuel.
or something equally mongish
edit - as said above. Charging up cars on electricity is cheap (the mini e uses .22 kwh/mile, so say 4 mpkwh, or approx 4p per mile. This is approx 1/3 of the cost of a diesel (so maybe thats where the 150odd mpg figure comes from) - however there are other costs (leasing a battery pack on electric cars costs ~£50 a month, which if you were doing 1000 miles/month would do a lot much equalise the direct fuel costs out)
Mazda 2.0l petrol - struggle to get it over 30mpg, normally about 28mpg. Useless.
Audi A6 2.0l diesel - seems to be getting around 38mpg around town and 48mpg on a steady run but only had it a few weeks so not really had too much chance to measure it that much yet.
wifes golf 1.9tdi - 50ish
330i touring - 30.3 (altough will do 20 on a short back road blast
Modified 106 gti - 30 as daily driver and 25 when caned (mates with similar cars can't believe it as we were expecting 15-20 max)
Golf 1.4 turbo petrol.
Long term average = 45mpg, includes (semi urban) commute, some longer trips, occasionally with bikes on the roof.
Car 1 = 70mpg, petrol
Car 2 - 42mpg, petrol
Van 1 - 45mpg, deisel
Lunge - cheers. May give it a go
*(mental note - empty all crap from boot)
306 HDi - about 50
Renault megane 1.6 - about 40
Celica GT4 - currently 19.8 averag.
Alfa Mito 1.4 Multiair Turbo petrol (135bhp)
Claimed 50 mpg
me driving (on posh petrol) 41mpg
the me driving bit doesnt do it any good at all, i have a habit / driving style of always wanting to be in the power band so i tend to run higher revs most of the time than alot of people. (in other words, i rag it :)) Brilliant little car, the Guilietta multiairs get very good petrol economy too
Wife's 1.8 TDCi Focus gets around 45-50mpg according to the onboard computer.
My 3.9l V8 Range Rover gives me around 12mpg around town, 18mpg longer runs.
38mpg ish, 2003 Volvo V70 2.4D Turbo, love it
I used to run M5 Touring Sports, the 330d ones, flat chat/towing I used to get 35mpg.. chipped with one of those thingummbobs it then returned 50mpg... never dropped below that until I took that thingummybob off and then it returned to 35mpg..
I also ran M3 Convertable, hellish 19mpg roof down at 80mph, knocking around town max 25mpg, got that chipped too (though not as effective on a petrol engine) and it'd do 30mpg.
Both cars gone now, just thought I'd add to the thread.
Previous car was a beyond race spec VR6 that did 15 MPG average according to the trip, foot down like the R32 I've seen as low as 4-5.
My daily is a Skoda Fabia with 240 HP 400LB/FT and according to the the trip computer it does 47 MPG average, although keeping it legal on the motorway can easily get 60MPG.
My 2.1L 16V Scirocco on DTA ECU and ITBs likes to drink.
stuff in your boot makes minimal difference. A modern car weighs a typical 1500kg. a 10% addition to that would be 150kg, or 10 'average' mountain bikes. even adding that wouldn't add 10% to your fuel consumption unless you spend your whole time accelerating. a spare wheel and a jumper will make naff all difference
Why are all the Mondeo owners getting better economy than I am? (No don't answer that, I do know but am none-the-less shocked) 😯
TDCI 130, typically 43mpg averaged over 10 mile motorway/A road commutes and a couple of longer (motorway) biking trips each week.
If I try hard I can get 50 mpg on clear A roads but I just can't drive like that all the time. 😕
Fiat panda multi-jet, general av, 60mpg, motorway at 60, 75mpg motorway at 80 😳 55mpg £30 tax, ins' group 2
Measured at fill ups, not by the computer
S-max 2.0 tdci 140 has averaged 35 in the 2 yrs we've had it. Mostly driven around town by the missus.
My old 1.7 puma did just under 30mpg with spirited driving roughly half in town half B roads.
RX-8 230 Bhp does 16-18 same journey. Glug Glug Glug.
Why are all the Mondeo owners getting better economy than I am? (No don't answer that, I do know but am none-the-less shocked)
TDCI 130, typically 43mpg averaged over 10 mile motorway/A road commutes and a couple of longer (motorway) biking trips each week.If I try hard I can get 50 mpg on clear A roads but I just can't drive like that all the time.
injectors could be on their way out. When my mate did them on his, he got an extra 10% mpg afterwards.
Otherwise, driving style
Modified Clio sport 15MPG
Jonk - ITB's?
I've got a clio 200 and the MPG settles between 27-28 mpg which is normally fairly sedate urban driving with a wee blast when she's warm 🙂
bikebouy - What are car 1 and van 1 please?
Individual throttle bodies, as in one per cylinder.
Ecky-Thump - Member
Why are all the Mondeo owners getting better economy than I am? (No don't answer that, I do know but am none-the-less shocked)
TDCI 130, typically 43mpg averaged over 10 mile motorway/A road commutes and a couple of longer (motorway) biking trips each week.
Sounds about right for a 10 mile commute. If your commute went up to about 30 miles or so, then you'd probably see that climb to about 50mpg.
Wifes 118d (chipped) - 52
My XC90 - 28
23mph or less from the Impreza Turbo on Momentum (probably not what the OP was after) and between 45 and 55 from the 130TDI PD Octavia.
The lower figure is on a short 8 mile commute with particularly harsh stop/start hard acceleration. Sensible driving over any distance and it'd be hard to dip below 50. Done 110k in it since 2004 and it's been great for everything including comfortable overnight cruises down to Verbier.
I'll probably get another eventually as the latest ones are even better but with similar bike lugging capacity.
Interestingly the Octy is only £130 squid tax now and has the same engine and great 6 speed box as the Fabia VRS and equivalent Ibiza sport. Suspension is softer than an eider down duvet but aside from that they are brill.
2006 Skoda Octavia VRS petrol - Average 35 mpg, best was 41 mpg. This mainly does long trips only, would not be too clever aorund town, probably less than 30.
1995 BMW M3 - 27 to 29 mpg.
2002 MG ZS 180 - 28 to 30 mpg.
2.0Tdci S-Max - 46mpg, mostly school runs!
2.0tdi Touran (140) getting early 40's at the mo but I am not trying to drive economically.
Civic EP3 typeR only just got it and not going to bother looking - I didn't buy it for efficiency! Keeping your foot down till vtec kicks in is great but you can almost watch the fuel guage drop.
If I had to commute to work by car it'd be a whole different story (as in something far more sedate and sensible).
E46 330d Tourer, give it some and it'll do 40mpg-ish combined, drive it sensibly on the motorway and it'll do 56.8mpg average at 73mph.
It's much more fun at 40mpg though.
Why are all the Mondeo owners getting better economy than I am? (No don't answer that, I do know but am none-the-less shocked)
TDCI 130, typically 43mpg averaged over 10 mile motorway/A road commutes and a couple of longer (motorway) biking trips each week.
mines shite as well (read as - lead right foot)
currently getting 43 mpg out of a 11 month old mondeo (163 bhp)
Focus TDCI estate 2003 160K miles. Using as little fuel as possible is the only entertainment left in driving. Hard Michelin economy tyres, and I don't bother about upsetting people. Smooth is the word.
I always get over 60. Long trips on motorways I can get 75..80. Two weeks ago I did 230 miles on 13 litres on an almost door to door motorway trip. (Lorries were involved :))
My wife drives the same car and won't get more than 55. And last summer I did only 39 booting it at 80MPH to South of France with three bikes and roof luggage, - which proves it is still a normal car.
davidrussell - Member
Modified Clio sport 15MPG
Jonk - ITB's?
throttle bodies
RX-8 230 Bhp does 16-18 same journey. Glug Glug Glug.
I assume you mean 16-18 miles per gallon. Of oil.
😉
Citroen C2 1.4 diesel - 50mpg general driving about, no motorways. 60mpg on a motorway trip.
Mazda Bongo, 25mpg, that's fully loaded or not, fast or slow, always seems to be 25mpg! Ouch.
Of course the question is: why the chuff do we measure mpg when we sell petrol in litres?
Because this is England we drive in miles and foriegn measurements were forced on us when Heath took us into the Common Market?