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So, in all seriousness, how many holes does a drinking straw have? I reckon it's a single hole but it has two ends. Mrs Ambrose disagrees, says it's two holes that meet up in the middle.

Who is right?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:32 pm
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Depends on your viewpoint, if it was a bit of metal that thick it would be one hole. So diplomatic version you are both right.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:34 pm
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It's zero holes, it's just a looped sheet, if the sheet had a hole in it your straw would leak.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:35 pm
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It's 1


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:35 pm
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How many holes does a hula-hoop have? If the answer is one, then so does a straw. Geometrically they're the same, only the dimensions change.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:36 pm
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It's a tube, so a hollow cylinder, so zero holes.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:36 pm
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Its not a looped sheet its and extruded blob.

It has no holes its i tube.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:36 pm
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Depends on your viewpoint, if it was a bit of metal that thick it would be one hole

Why does the material make any difference?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:38 pm
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suck pipe


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:38 pm
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None


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:43 pm
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Hole at each end. Obviously... how else would you get the juice in one end... and out the other.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:47 pm
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3


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:47 pm
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Two holes, the alimentary canal is essentially a tube and nobody would say your mouth and your anus were the same hole!


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:55 pm
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I dunno, sh*t seems to come out some folks mouths all the time...


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:57 pm
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Infinity holes of infinitely small depth joined together.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:59 pm
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I’d say 2.

If it had 1, it would be blocked shirley..


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 7:59 pm
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Two holes, the alimentary canal is essentially a tube and nobody would say your mouth and your anus were the same hole!

You have one weird alimentary canal.

If it had 1, it would be blocked shirley..

No it would still be one but not all the way through.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:05 pm
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It is possible to $hit out of your mouth


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:06 pm
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It is possible to $hit out of your mouth

Often demonstrated on here.

Seems there's a mathematical answer.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevinknudson/2018/01/29/drinking-straws-how-many-holes/#2ffd0dc674d1


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:09 pm
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It is possible to $hit out of your mouth

Yep, google Fecal Vomiting if you’re intrigued and slightly mad.

My wife witnessed it once and said it was the. It’s grossest thing she had ever witnesses that didn’t result in the patients death.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:25 pm
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Yeah you’d need more than a good gargle of listerine after that


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:28 pm
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How to get from a simple innocent question to fecal vomitting in 21 moves - stw I applaud you.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:34 pm
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My wife witnessed it once and said it was the. It’s grossest thing she had ever witnesses that didn’t result in the patients death.

Just once? She's extremely lucky.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 8:58 pm
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Define hole first.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 9:04 pm
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A straw has two orifices. No holes.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 9:06 pm
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Its not a looped sheet its and extruded blob.

What if its made of paper?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 9:07 pm
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Define hole first.

Something which faeces comes out of.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 9:08 pm
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Interval time at the Banff Ocean Film Festival - and I get to read this! Cheers folks 🤮 💩


 
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Yep, google Fecal Vomiting if you’re intrigued and slightly mad.

Think I'll give that one a miss.  Like I did with the human centipede films.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 9:28 pm
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What if its made of paper?

Ours are made from abandoned sea shells and are biodegradable.

Not sure if they are vegan friendly though.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 9:39 pm
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I would say zero: a hole is a penetration through another medium (fnarr fnarr). A straw is a tube.


 
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I had something but can't remember what it was after the fecal vomiting.

Oh yeah, that was it, you have sphincters in your esophagus. Somehow that's less funny now.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:12 pm
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A straw is a tube.

And every tube has a hole.

So the answer is one, unless you're trying to have sex with Mrs Ambrose. Then it's two or whatever else she says.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:19 pm
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I would say zero: a hole is a penetration through another medium (fnarr fnarr). A straw is a tube.

A straw is a passage for one medium through another.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:20 pm
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Oh FFS!


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:24 pm
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Lol!

OK a hole, by definition is basically done to an object.

A steel tube, or even a straw for that matter would not normally have any holes in it.

Unless it's a musical instrument maybe?

Like a nose flute?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:42 pm
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What's the difference between a straw and a daft Dutchman?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:48 pm
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Topogically, a mug is the same as a donut, and a straw is one hole.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 10:51 pm
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This debate drove people nuts last year according to the Sun. Which made me think:

It's none. Get a pin. Poke it in the surface of the straw to make a hole. The straw now has one hole. If you poked it straight through one side and out the other it has two holes.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 11:24 pm
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If it had none it would be a rod.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 11:28 pm
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A straw is a rod hull then.


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 11:37 pm
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Dead?


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 11:39 pm
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Dead?

I didn’t know he’d been ill!


 
Posted : 02/10/2018 11:51 pm
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It really depends how you define “hole”. There’s no right answer. I’d say it can be 1 or 2. 0 just seems like contrariness. Probably better to use term lumen in this case if you want to be more precise in your language and avoid ambiguity.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 12:16 am
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But a Polo is the mint with a hole..

What if it was as long as a straw?


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 5:56 am
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But a Polo is the mint with a hole..

What if it was as long as a straw?

You'd probably only get one in each pack.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 6:28 am
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One's a hollow cylinder and the other is a silly Hollander.

Sorry.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 6:30 am
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I think we need to define hole.

chambers offers multiple choices some of which pierce and others that are closed.

A hollow place
A cavity
An aperture
A gap
A breach
A pit


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 7:02 am
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Topogically, a mug is the same as a donut...

Does your mug leak a lot? (Or only hold a small amount of coffee in an annoyingly off centre location?)


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 7:31 am
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Your wife is right, you are wrong. Doesn't matter what the question was. Accept that and move on.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 7:32 am
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I am thinking of the straw as a really long washer where the internal diameter is really close to the external, so if it is a washer it has one hole.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 8:34 am
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This debate drove people nuts last year

People actually gave a shit (and not out of their mouths) ?


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 9:25 am
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This debate drove peopdle nuts last year

People actually gave a shit (and not out of their mouths)

Didn't the post say "The Sun"? Not exactly where you'd look for a considered argument and sense of proportion is it?


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 10:06 am
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Holes don't have to go through anything. If I was planting a tree I would dig a hole, that had a bottom and sides. Therefore the straw has two holes that just happen to meet in the middle.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 11:36 am
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Not exactly where you’d look for a considered argument and sense of proportion is it?

"This argument is driving people nuts! You'll never guess what it's about!"


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 11:41 am
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“This argument is driving people nuts! You’ll never guess what it’s about!”

What!? What!? Tell me!


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 12:12 pm
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Three.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 12:25 pm
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Holes don’t have to go through anything.

Correct.

If I was planting a tree I would dig a hole, that had a bottom and sides.

Correct.

Therefore the straw has two holes that just happen to meet in the middle.

Incorrect, you have jumped a step in your logic.

You poke a hole through a piece of paper, you don't poke opposing holes.

A through hole is one hole.

A glory hole is one hole.

There's a hole in my bucket.

All singular.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 3:47 pm
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One’s a hollow cylinder and the other is a silly Hollander.

Bravo. And I raise you:

How do you titilate an ocelot?

Oscillate it’s tits a lot...

IGMC


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 4:23 pm
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Therefore the straw has two holes that just happen to meet in the middle.

Bless and you were doing so well.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 4:39 pm
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This shit is pretty much my job...I’m patent attorney. We actually end up arguing this type of thing in court. Is a bore different from a hole? Is a pipe different from a tube? Should you have called your pipe a conduit?  It’s a good job I quite like arguing about this type of thing!


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 6:17 pm
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This shit is pretty much my job…I’m patent attorney. We actually end up arguing this type of thing in court. Is a bore different from a hole? Is a pipe different from a tube? Should you have called your pipe a conduit?  It’s a good job I quite like arguing about this type of thing!


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 6:21 pm
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This shit is pretty much my job…I’m patent attorney.

Hmmm...has anyone tried to patent an oblong bob?


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 6:31 pm
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I admit it doesn’t sound all that interesting when I put it like that! 😴

Usually it’s a bit higher tech than a straw...medical devices, gene therapy, that sort of thing. But hey, it pays for bikes.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 7:22 pm
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There’s a hole in my bucket.

Hey drac, tell us, what is a bucket without a hole called?


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 8:36 pm
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Topologically a straw has one hole.


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 9:58 pm
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Given that the atomic structure is 99.9999999999996% empty space, then i'd say there are BILLIONS of holes in a drinking straw........


 
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Hey drac, tell us, what is a bucket without a hole called

Functional. A bucket shouldn't have a hole in it. Essentially its a sheet (of leather historically) with the edges gathered up.

(Edit there may be stitching holes but i don't think that's really what you meant.)


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 10:05 pm
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Hey drac, tell us, what is a bucket without a hole called?

Useless.


 
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Two openings, one aperture, no holes.

totally disagree to the mug/doughnut statement though


 
Posted : 03/10/2018 11:14 pm
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Topologically a straw is the same as a washer, doughnut or Polo mint. It's just a surface with a single hole in it. As is a mug, but the hole is the handle, not the bit you put the tea in.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 8:17 am
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Two openings, one aperture, no holes.

No holes but has an aperture? 🤦🏼‍♂️


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 8:35 am
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If a tube has no holes in it then what is a rod with a hole drilled all the way through it?


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 8:41 am
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If a tube has no holes in it then what is a rod with a hole drilled all the way through it?

That would be a tube.

If you took a sheet of steel and rolled it to produce a tube, it's still a tube but it doesn't have a hole in it. It's a question of semantics, perception and fabrication. Is your tube a 3 dimensional solid with a hole formed through the middle or is it essentially a 2d planar object?  Idealy a drinking straw has walls of 0 thickness, so differs from your rod which has a thickness and specifically existed as an ideally 3d object.

Take a sheet of paper with no holes in it, its got 6 sides in practice but idealy only 2 and most people would agree two except soley to be argumentative.

Roll the ends together to create a tube, its still got two* sides and no holes but its a tube, un roll it, no holes. Push down in the middle its still got no holes and is still a planar object.

Push a pencil through the sheet to create a hole - a breach in the otherwise continuous plane within its defined bounds. Its now a tube to all intents and purposes just of 0* depth. Roll it up, end to end and is still a 2d object with a single hole.

* yes in the real world it has thickness but given the whole hole question is a thought exercise hoplefully even stw can concieve that paper "is" a 2d object.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 10:03 am
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Two openings, one aperture, no holes.

"Opening", "aperture" and "hole" are synonyms. I'd provide a link if the forum software wasn't quite so spectacularly useless.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 10:27 am
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A cylinder is a 3D shape primary school kids know that. A tube is cylinder with a hole all the way through, even paper ones.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 10:28 am
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Even primary school kids know that.

We teach lots of things to kids that are wrong because they're fundamentally easier to grasp and correct enough.

A cylinder is a 3D shape... A tube is cylinder with a hole all the way through.

Some yes, not all.

even paper ones

Feel free to make a paper cylinder from a single sheet of paper without changing the fundamental fact it's a single sheet. Before you do though, draw a triangle on it. Roll it up. Is it still a triangle? After all a triangle is a 2d shape, even primary school kids know that.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 10:51 am
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A 2D shape needs to be able to lay flat on a level surface a tube doesn't. The material on object is made from does not define the shape.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 11:05 am
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So a straw has the same number of holes as a cup. And yet liquid only escapes from one end of a cup.

Did you know there's an Urban Dictionary entry for a leaky straw? I wouldn't have know that if this thread hadn't existed.

Question - Has a straw got 2 ends?


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 11:17 am
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So a straw has the same number of holes as a cup. And yet liquid only escapes from one end of a cup.

The hole in the cup stops before going all the way through.

A paper cup has no holes apparently.


 
Posted : 04/10/2018 11:19 am
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