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I would do a pint with a meal over the course of an evening.
Was at a function and someone refused a 4th bottle of Peroni [330ml] as they were driving. I would have thought 3 bottles had put them over the limit already.
Just got me thinking what is legal in the real world and what people think is acceptable.
Zero.
Well - I [i]might[/i] drive later in the evening if I had a pint at lunchtime.
Edit: I used to do much, much worse. Now I'm older and (supposedly) wiser 😉
*opens beer and hobnobs*
3 Peroni would have me phoning a taxi.
Can you change the title to include the words Audi S3 as well please?
It's a tough one to judge as there are so many variables. Personally, these days I just have none if I'm going to drive. Not for any sanctimonious self-righteous reasons, more because I'll generally want another if I've had one. Also, if you've not had any, the police can't use the smell of booze on your breath as an excuse to breathalyze you.
3 Peroni wouldn't touch the sides.
4 pints is my max
*opens beer and hobnobs*
Weirdo. Bet you don't like mayo either.
Two, but that's two too many
Well if you have a smash after one bottle you will be a drink driver in my eyes and probsbly the eyes of the law,if you kill someone after 1 beer whilst driving you will have killed someone drink driving,no limit is the limit,these people that say " I can drink 10 pints and not feel drunk" are just making excuses that will get them into a lot of trouble one day,the way the police are and the law these days I wouldn't chance a half,some others will come out with " well this unit is equivelent to such a thing" it's all chance,and I think the fact that everyone questions drink driving is an answer in itself.
Well.
"Legal" is measured in alcohol levels in the bloodstream rather than consumption, so there's no hard and fast rule on what goes in as there's too many variables.
Peroni's about 5% isn't it? So a litre of the stuff would be 5 units, and an average person processes around 1 unit an hour. Had they drunk it over the space of five hours, or fifteen minutes?
Bolting a pint down your neck in the space of your lunch hour and then driving back to work might well put you closer / further over the limit than sipping a few slowly over the course of an evening.
Couple of pints 4% brew and a couple of packs of peanuts to soak it up! my usual after night ride ritual!
Weirdo. Bet you don't like mayo either.
I love mayo.*
*On my nips.
And by mayo...
One pint
zero for me. I've seen the aftermath of many a RTC where person who has claimed to just had "1 or 2 drinks"
And by mayo...
...I mean salad cream.
Half a shandy is my limit.
So I'm a zero when it comes to driving.
No more than 1 pint of Guinness, and I always try to make sure I've got a bit of time before id need to drive. Someone will be along shortly to tell me how Im a disgrace.... 🙄
One pint unless over a long evening then two.
Half pint ok, one pint if i have a couple of hours and a meal
will usually decline entirly if I'm driving anyone else around with me
I don't drink at all if I'm intending to drive that day. Don't ever drink enough now for the next day to be an issue
I probably would drive with a couple of beers in me if there was a VERY good reason, but those are bloody hard to think of just now. I suppose someone really ill and with no prospect of an ambulance in the immediate future but not very realistic, I hope.
Drove pissed when I was 18 once - so drunk at a party that a load of mates convinced me to drive them home (about 7 in a mini. I was sleeping at the party, so went back after). Still ashamed of that now
will usually decline entirly if I'm driving anyone else around with me
eh?
So its ok to drive into another driver or pedestrian?
I just don't get why people risk it?
none. because the two shouldn't ever mix.
A couple with food.
Seems to be less sanctimony than usual for this topic.
None.
If there was a meal and a few hours, I might have had one pint or glass.
Seems to be less sanctimony than usual for this topic.
I'm planning an early night to be honest.
0. Don't need to drink so don't see why I would if I needed to drive.
None. If i'm driving, I don't drink. I know that two pints has me feeling the effects and I do not want to be responsible for anything happening. I don't even like riding home after two pints, no way I'd drive
None these days, i am not a big drinker anymore and would sooner get a taxi these days. Grassed up an old work mate after he drove home on 6 or more pints, I have no shame in grassing him up.
None. If I'm driving then it's vodka only.
Is this to or from a rugby club and/or wedding reception? I'm pretty sure the law is different in those circumstances.
Love a beer or 3 but not when I've got to drive. Believe me if there is ever any doubt after an incident and you have had a beer you are already in the wrong, pissed or not.
None tbh- I know i can be legal and still impaired. Well OK, very occasionally I'll do a short hop on one but that's very rare.
Not going to look down on people for sticking under the legal limit to be fair, I know i can get giggly on a sip of shandy.
I think it's the legal limit what encourages people to do so IMO,drink drivers make their own mind up what the limit is
Eg after 1 pint =2 pints is the limit
After 2 pints=3 pints is the limit
After 3 pints........and so fourth.
One small bottle of beer (1.6 units), or a glass of wine.
Three units, downed quickly, will put an average adult at or above the limit. Food slows absorption slightly, but the alcohol is still absorbed. There are many variables, but the body removes about one unit of alcohol per hour (one unit = 10ml = 8g). Accumulation is guaranteed if you drink more than one unit per hour. It is a linear process;
Over a two hour meal: Four bottles of Peroni = 6.4 units. Two units are removed so the body will contain about 4.4 units. This is 4.4*8 = 35.2g of alcohol. This dissolves into 0.55 L/kg or 38.5 litres. So the blood alcohol concentration will be about 35200/38.5 mg/L = 91 mg/100 ml. That is over the limit of 80 mg/100ml and it would be illegal to drive.
If you have a crash, backwards extrapolation is a valid legal exercise, which is why so much effort is placed on understanding the disposition of alcohol.
Is this to or from a rugby club and/or wedding reception?
I didn't think Champagne counted?
One - nothing like a Stella or strong ale - I'd go for a weaker option.
As soon as i open a bottle thats it not driving. If ive had alot to drink driving the morning after is of the cards aswell.
I'd go for a weaker option
Driving beer 😀
I didn't think [b]Cologne[/b] counted?
Depends if 'countryside rules' are in operation:
King-ocelot - Member
None these days, i am not a big drinker anymore and would sooner get a taxi these days. Grassed up an old work mate after he drove home on 6 or more pints, I have no shame in grassing him up.
So, tell me, had he chosen instead to ride his bike home would you still have grassed him up, or would your self righteous sanctimonious nature make a different judgement call ?
Funny old world these days, pride in being a grass...
Well, al, there's a bit of sanctimony for you.
Funny old world these days, pride in being a grass...
Indeed. Snitches get stitches.
None. I've also grassed up a neighbour that drove home drunk, unfortunately the police said there was nothing to be done as he had managed to make it home and out of the car, I've no idea if this is a real loophole or just lazy police!
[EDIT]
Or perhaps even the Police don't like a grass.
Funny old world these days, pride in being a grass...
You do realize that the purpose of the drink driving laws is to prevent people from killing other people or themselves...
Best we all understand the purpose of derekfish's post before we get too sanctimonious.
Zero
Five and drive!!
Never drunk more than a pint.
However, in the past I fear that I have been over the limit the morning after while drinking with a hangover.
Have used a breathalyser in the car a couple of times the morning after to make sure that I wasn't over the limit.
Six pints is a lot of booze!
None.
I'm a police officer and have picked off three drink-drivers this week. As a beat bobby I get zero recognition for a drink drive.
It isn't a recordable crime so doesn't show on the stats. Nicking and prosecuting them is a thankless task as far as government is concerned; but i have never met a police officer who isn't happy with banning a drink-driver.
PSA- I get a great hit-rate by hanging round country pubs and pulling every car with a light out or who is tailgating.
Pretty sure I've driven whilst over the limit a couple of times but I do feel pretty terrible about it and I no longer take my car keys if theres any chance I'll get pissed enough to think its a good idea. I might have one pint with a meal but I'd rather just not bother now, not worth the risk.
PSA- I get a great hit-rate by hanging round country pubs and pulling every car with a light out or who is tailgating.
You would be stopping half of the cars round here if you were going for everyone with a light out. I've never seen so many.
I saw six driving home from work tonight (2.5 miles)
You would be stopping half of the cars round here
Where is that?
This is interesting. What about other substances, prescriptions, or otherwise? And, dare I ask, if you're riding, do the same rules apply?
I have nasty scar from catching my arm on a slate hedge* while pissed.
* What sort of unt makes a horizont=l slate Cornish hedge?!
Where is that?
Morley. It's crazy how many I've seen recently.
Interesting fact about Morley: The town is built on seven hills, like Rome: Scatcherd Hill, Dawson Hill, Daisy Hill, Chapel Hill, Hunger Hill, Troy Hill and Banks Hill.
National sport in NZ. I've seen people driving after 6 beers 🙄 And they seem to think this is normal.
I noticed i was crepping towards happily having 2 then driving. I now have nothing.
Same here in Oz, people get to know where the Random Breath Tests are and social media helps to inform them of an evening (it's also normally under the bridge when it's raining)
It's much worse than the UK where most would be caught or stopped by friends. The social stigma is much higher in the UK, though when I read the fast car threads it reminds me that some people are just driving gods with much higher abilities than others - that mentality translates to drink driving too.
zero
1 bottle of beer (330ml). Absolutely no more.
I used to live in a condo with parking underneath. I went to turn my car around in its space so someone could use my battery for a jump start. I'd had maybe 9 bottles (4 pints?) over a couple of hours and shocked myself with how my abilities had, well, disappeared!
A few years ago, I remember riding home at 4am. I ended up calling my sensible younger brother as I'd lost my bike and glasses in the hedge when I'd ridden into it.
"drunk in charge of a bicycle" is an offence I think?
Although I'm sure a few beverages would actually improve my riding
Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.
The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.
Last time I crashed the car
That sentence started with such promise, and delivered!
Yep it does...
It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.
ending with this is great, shame it only helps you and not the other poor people who have to share the roads with you.
botanybay - MemberLast time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.
The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.
Grow up!
Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.
You could have the good grace to take advantage of the fortuitous diesel and taken yourself out of the gene pool for society's benefit.
Hanging is too good for 'em etc
Used to be one. But the busier and longer my days became this turned into none, I was tired enough already.
botanybay - Member
Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.
How long ago was this? I've known quite a lot of people that used to drive under such high levels of 'influence' but none in the last 15-20 years. Having become middle aged I've no idea what the culture of today's Yoof think about drink driving. I'm curious as to whether there's been a shift further away from acceptability? Instinctually I'd say yes, but I'm not basing that on anything.
Never done it myself, and I'd hope this was to do with more than not having a driving license until quite recently.
Normally zero, I may have 1 bottle of beer if I was eating but that is as much as I would do. For no other reason than that I don't feel as in control as I would like after much more than that. Irrelevant of the legal limit, if I'm in charge of 2 tones of steel I want to be on top of my game.
The stigma attached to drink driving in the UK is interesting. It just shows how effective the ad campaigns were in the 70s and 80s. People in Germany seem genuinely surprised when I tell them about it and drink driving is a lot more prevalent here especially in the countryside. One thing I find curious though is the legal limit becomes lower if you are involved in a crash.
Last time I crashed the car, I'd had about 8 cans and a bottle of wine. Plus a handful of e's and some speed.
The coppers didn't even breathalyse me as there was diesel on the road which was clear to see. It helps that I know the local polis though, small town and all that.
Obviously made up.
But that doesn't make you any less of a bellend.
"Drive on" Drive on what? a roll on roll off ferry, a bridge, a beach..
Give us a clue wontcha.. 🙄
Speeding poses a much greater risk than driving after a couple of pints.
Both wrong, but why is speeding seen as acceptable or even celebrated.
To my eternal shame, about 4 years ago, I once woke up at an exes house without remembering how i'd got there, she then informed me I'd driven. Even now i only remember glimpses of the journey, but what i do remember is back roads going about 15-20mph all the way (about 10 miles). I was 18 then and it was definately the kick up the backside I needed.
Now I'll have no more than 2 and wait for at least an hour or two after the last drink before getting behind the wheel. Even then I definately pay more attention to my driving than I do normally, ie, i don't let myself go into autopilot.
Speeding poses a much greater risk than driving after a couple of pints.
There are so many variables as to make that sentence a nonsense. Do you think for example a car going 33mph in a 30 limit with a 100% sober driver (of average ability) will stop in a longer distance than a car going at 30mph driven by driver (of average ability) with 4 units in their blood stream? I would put money on the opposite being true.
I'm not condoning either, and understanding what you are driving at (pun intended), but I'm not convinced sweeping generalisations like that are particularly helpful.
I don't drink alcohol much, and have virtually no tolerance, so it would be zero for me. I reckon my ability would be noticeably impaired after a couple of units.
People who drink more, and more regularly, might be a different story. People just need to be honest about what they're feeling, even if they're still well under the limit.
None.
I'm typing this post while driving, so I'll keep it brief, I find drink driving to be a total disregard for other peoples safety.