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to "reply" to a comment on a post?
I'm no genius, but I don't consider myself to be a dunce either. . . .
Click"Reply"
Type a reply
Click "Submit"
Then click "edit post" to try to take out a load of stuff that shouldn't be there.
Submit again.
Page all the way down to the bottom of the thread (because you were taken to the top of the thread)
See nothing in your post has changed so repeat . . . .
Edits don't show immediately. Wait a few seconds, then refresh the page.
For some reason I never see all that extra code guff.
Try using Chrome. I get much more crud in quotes when using Edge.
The extra code guff arrives if you mistakenly include tge posters name in the copied text
For me the problem is the words as autocorrect on the phone changes what you thought you typed so you sure all your time correcting
- Attempt to click on thread
- Open different thread, as the page is still loading
- Read a bit of that thread
- Close it
- Try again to open the thread you'd originally been looking at
- Go to stage 2 above
- Repeat a few times
The extra code guff arrives if you mistakenly include tge posters name in the copied text
Not just that. Pressing return twice can do it, and whatever it changes doesn't undo with a backspace.
For me the weird autocorrect is the most annoying (although the jumping around above runs it pretty close). I think that is WordPress related as I have seen it on another WordPress site.
Ah, I wondered if the auticoautoc (yep that's autocorrect, autocorrected) was the site or my phone. Glad I'm not the only one!
I've had a couple of instances just recently where I've tapped elsewhere in the dialogue box to correct something and all the text I had painstakingly typed just disappeared.
But in answer to the OP, two. If I can't get it in two, then **** it, I'll not bother. It's only a bike forum, it's not that important.
The extra code guff arrives if you mistakenly include tge posters name in the copied text
Or copy text from just about any formatted Web page, even in chrome
Just one 😀
ETA - or is it?
One. But then I don't post from my phone.
Most of the above problems are related to the editor being used not the forum code. Both are Wordpress plug-ins. On the old forum the editor required you to click the "Preview" button to see what your post would look like. This editor attempts to be "live" so when you insert an image you see it in the text area immediately. When you copy from another page it looks like it takes all the HTML code as well as the text and can't deal with it. The old editor, I think it was the default BBCode editor, wouldn't allow HTML tags and so would strip them out.
Ah, I wondered if the auticoautoc (yep that’s autocorrect, autocorrected) was the site or my phone. Glad I’m not the only one!
Ah, so that is why it is so much worse here than anywhere else!
How can a website influence autocorrect though?
As far as I'm aware the site can't influence autocorrect, it's the device doing it. The only things changed (as far as I'm aware, Cougar or Drac might correct(sic) me on this) are profanities which are changed by the swear filter.
Sounds like you've installed the auto-error app!
The only things changed (as far as I’m aware, Cougar or Drac might correct(sic) me on this) are profanities which are changed by the swear filter.
****ed if I know but autocorrect works no different on here for me.
The delay in editing a post is a caching issue on the site, very annoying for me as I have dyslexia so I can make loads of mistakes.
Click on thread..
Click in reply box..
Post insightful and bright comments..
Click “submit”
Get “your network connection was lost” message..
Go back to thread to see no reply..
Get “login” screen
Get “we value your private parts..”
Go back to thread..
Click in reply box...
See that there has been 41 reply’s in the 5mins I’ve had to refresh page and log back in again..
Wonder if the world still turns on its axis or we’ve gone a few degrees south..
Post insightful comment that now makes no sense whatsoever to the comment I was initially going to reply too.
Submit post..
Sit back and wait for witty comments or derision..
/end
How can a website influence autocorrect though
I've always wondered that but the days of websites just rendering some php and ignoring the browser are long gone unfortunately :(.
Thought as much. I'll stick to blaming Google then.
Far as I'm aware, the typing issues are down to an old version of Swiftkey. I had it initially (and on Facebook too), upgrading Swiftkey fixed it.
The "no changes after editing" thing, as someone else already said, is because there's a caching delay of about 15 seconds. Wait a little while, hit refresh and your edits should be visible.
Formatting errors, there's a "clear formatting" button on the menu bar. I've found this to be hit and miss, so I launder any copying and pasting through Notepad.
Formatting errors, there’s a “clear formatting” button on the menu bar. I’ve found this to be hit and miss, so I launder any copying and pasting through Notepad.
Can you think of any other forums/websites where you have to do this?
Can you think of any other forums/websites where you have to do this?
😂 nope.
Can you think of any other forums/websites where you have to do this?
Yep, I have to do this in Gmail too. In Word etc. you can Paste As > Text without Formatting, etc.
I like the way it always chooses to log me out when I submit a post, so I have to go back, copy my post, then log in, then find the thread again..
It's those little touches that made me cancel my P.
Is the new version of the forjum coming soon?
)edit required) 😂
Far as I’m aware, the typing issues are down to an old version of Swiftkey. I had it initially (and on Facebook too), upgrading Swiftkey fixed it.
I'm on the latest Google keyboard and I get it. The difference between now and before upgrade is that before the editor was a text input now it's an iframe and built up with divs, not an input box as such. Of and why that affects autocorrect I don't know.
Generally, I rarely reply to anyone on here because the "how badly I want reply to someone versus how difficult it is" ratio fails.
Unless I see a "last post" that I'd like to reply to and I'm really quick, so my post replies to the last post by definition, then I usually leave it.
Likewise, this is the only site I use where I have to post a photo elsewhere first and then link to it on here.
Never mind. One day, possibly the day after Brexit, everything will be perfect and fine and good 🙂
Does "reply" do anything that simply going to the bottom of the thread and typing in the box doesn't?
I've done both and can't see a difference?
As far as I’m aware the site can’t influence autocorrect, it’s the device doing it.
My phone doesn't have this problem on any other site.
Autocorrect has nothing to do with us.
If you copy and paste into a quote, right click and use the "Paste as plain text" option (or Ctr + Shift + V).
Paste? Paste!? Oh the luxury! Paste doesn't work for me! ( Android and Chrome fwiw)
Second attempt, via notes cut and paste. I started at 11.35pm*
this is how it goes, generally:
Open STW chat/whatever forum in safari (ipad)
Attempt to click on thread of interest
Page jumps, click on wrong thread
Press back button
Thread menu page tries to reload
Reload.
Wait for page to stop jumping
Click!or jumped! Clicked on wrong thread again, same problem
Go back to beginning
Wait too long, page hangs
Shut down tabs and safari
Reopen safari, new tab
Go to STW
Wait the correct time
Click on the right thread (it works, excitement)
Read thread,try to reply
Scroll down towards bottom/reply form
Doesn't reach bottom/reply form
Page hangs and reloads
Try again to reply, see above
Page goes blank and popup message at too of tab : there has a been a repeated problem with the page yadayada
Grit teeth
Reset ipad
Delete safari cache and all passwords
Restart Safari
Login at STW
EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEMS HAPPEN
Get lucky, type like mad
Hit 'submit'
Try to correct hasty typos by hitting 'edit'
Edit page loads, nearly, then hangs
Repeat
Repeat
Repeat
Manage to edit some typos, my guff, yet the edit window hides half of the text now because I inserted an image and that made it all go wrong
Can't scroll down to submit button, it has gone blank below
Now am logged out. Log in again
Edit some more, press 'copy' on some text. Page now hangs.
Reload, try and re-edit
now weird double line spacing
text wasnt copied
Edit window now expired
35-45 mins expired.
Morning coffee usually cold.
Bad mood.
Mental note to use notes and paste.
*finished this post 11.55. Not bad!
This is what happens when people complain about the site, loads of people say exactly the same thing then Mark very occasionally pops up and comments on one tiny thing (autocorrect this time, we are lucky he’s here at all) while ignoring the huge issues that are making the site a complete joke to use.
So don’t expect any changes, they were there when they changed the forum, looks like they don’t care.
But wait - we have a new classifieds section!! We should be grateful yes?
Err no because it’s rubbish and no improvement on the original. And no-one uses it.
Autocorrect has nothing to do with us.
As far as I can tell it is WordPress related so it sort of is coming from your side. Is there really no way to have a simple text box entry that doesn't add all the extra formatting? Just as an option, until things are fixed
Autocorrect has nothing to do with us.
Either that's not true, or it's a remarkable coincidence that the problem has never occurred on any other site I've ever used.
And no-one uses it.
I have! I had to post the thing on the other classifieds to get any attention, but that's because some people only look there 😆
until things are fixed
LOLZ!!!
For me the problem is the words as autocorrect on the phone changes what you thought you typed so you sure all your time correcting
I too suffer from autocorrect failures. I do most of my posting on an iPhone though, which explains the issue as the keyboard is seemingly made for people with Trump hand syndrome.
it’s rubbish and no improvement on the original.
Interesting comments from someone whose account is a month old.
It'd be interesting to know the official traffic figures for the forum over the last year or so - items are staying on the front page far longer & fewer posts seem to be being made. It would appear the forum I far, far quieter than of past.
I suppose it begs the additional question - what other forums are current users migrating over too?
Just took me 4-5 attempts (lost count) to succesfully edit a post I made. Luckily am literally waiting for some paint to dry. Also when adding a link using the formatting thingummy the page keeps going blank and you have to scroll-chase the link box around to try and nail it down. It's like a video game puzzle where the goal randomly appears and disappears. A game that crashes every time you get it 'wrong'.
Mark,
The autocorrect issue minitnitnbe you personally but itdita aproblem with the ssw forum, typing on a phone might not be perfect every time but if I typed this on any other webpage it woukdwhwve autocorrect Rd into something legible itnb.
On any other site if I type "Its" followed by space-bar it autocautocorre to It's, on STW it just starts the word again and gives you ItsIt.
And if I click on a misspelled word (autocorrect in the paragraph above) and click the correct spelling on the Android keyboard it tries to insert the correct word in the middle of it.
I looks like the sites autocorrect is fighting with either the Android keyboard or something in chrome. There's seemingly 3 autocorrectsaut (yes that is what it typed after I typed autocorrects and didnt go back an manually edit it), one in android keyboard one pops up in the text with a list of options and an actuall autocorrect that automatically ****s it up.
toecorrect also seems to add return lines before the next paragraph, I found that last one about 10 lines down the page after partially correcting the above. Its also taken the first two letters of this paragraph too.
It might be everyones phone doing it not yours, but no other site makes typing this hard!
And you still value my privacy, once when loading this page, once after logging in, once whilst viewing my reply and again whilst editing to add this. And probably again when I hit submit.
Can't we just have the old forum back, i can't even remember what it was that meant it was so bad it needed a change!
items are staying on the front page far longer
Yes, there's some nonsense about the gender of dogs that seems to have been there forever. Can't wait for that to be gone.
What script is running on this page that causes safari to reload the page due to an error? That is so annoying but not as bad as waiting for the page to load up whilst you try to keep an eye on the forever moving thread title you wish to look at but it does create a great new game of “guess which thread opens when you have pressed the thread link not realising the section of page you cant see is still loading and thus moves everything about”.
Malvern Rider - I appreciate that you shouldn't have to, but try using a different browser. Safari does seem to be a common denominator with complaints about the forum.
Autocorrect I've discussed before. When Swype disappeared I switched to Swiftkey and had the problems reported. It wasn't just on STW but a few other sites too, notably Facebook. Then an update came out for Swiftkey and the problem went away. Make sure you're using the latest version of your keyboard app in the first instance.
This Christmas is the 10 year anniversary of the Big Hack.
It's all them hackers fault. They'll be growed adults by now.
Autocorrect I’ve discussed before. When Swype disappeared I switched to Swiftkey and had the problems reported. It wasn’t just on STW but a few other sites too, notably Facebook. Then an update came out for Swiftkey and the problem went away. Make sure you’re using the latest version of your keyboard app in the first instance.
Its android, nothing fancy. The problem is with STW, not everyone else.
It’s all them hackers fault. They’ll be growed adults by now.
Probably web developers, I wononenofonenofothe.is having the last laugh somewhere nenofo
(I cant be arsed to correct that).
My new phone uses SwiftKey keyboard and has 'paste as plain text' as an option (once I've managed to find the point I'm allowed to paste into). Sort of progress for me I guess.
Autocorrect I’ve discussed before. When Swype disappeared I switched to Swiftkey and had the problems reported.
It may have happened with SwiftKey but it is not a SwiftKey issue. Really. It isn't. It happens with various keyboards in various devices. Not just swiftkey. Honest.
It may have happened with SwiftKey but it is not a SwiftKey issue. Really. It isn’t. It happens with various keyboards in various devices. Not just swiftkey. Honest.
Point is, it's a compatibility issue. It's easy to argue "it only affects STW so it must be STW's fault" (which as I've said, wasn't the case for me, a small number of other sites were also affected) but one could equally argue "it works fine with other keyboards so it must be a keyboard issue." The problem lies in the interoperability between the two, you can't just point the finger in one direction. If you have a screwdriver which doesn't fit a screw, is it the screw or the screwdriver at fault?
Back when I was having issues, it was a far less frustrating experience just to switch to a different keyboard when using symptomatic sites. Takes a couple of clicks. I appreciate that in an ideal world the forum should work with every esoteric combination of browsers, operating systems and keyboards out there, but in the interim it's possible to work around it. And as I said, the ultimate fix for me personally wasn't even to change keyboards, just to update the one I was using.
Interesting comments from someone whose account is a month old.
Used to have an account a long time ago but didn’t have details of it so after a long long break I started a new one.
Was going to get a P but issues with the site have put me off to be honest, and has been stated above it seems a lot quieter than a few years ago.
If you have a screwdriver which doesn’t fit a screw, is it the screw or the screwdriver at fault?
So you're saying that we need a collection of screwdrivers when a single screwdriver fits all but one of the screws? The more sensible approach would be to remanufacture that single screw. That would require the manufacturer to stop pretending that they don't have a problem.
Blimey just took me 10 minutes to post that last post ofmine “sigh”.
I appreciate that in an ideal world the forum should work with every esoteric combination of browsers, operating systems and keyboards out there
Android, chrome.
I've no idea what swiftkeyswiftkeySi but is would suggest its more esoteric than whatever most people use.
It does it for me on Gboard though so it's not just a Swiftkey issue.
It does appear worse here than anywhere else.
Interesting comments from someone whose account is a month old.
You're right Cougar, only a month to come to the same conclusion as those that have been here for years, you may have discovered a genius!
Once
I have the autpcorraut problem too. Standard Google androiA keyboard, and chrome browser. No issurs on any other site.
You’re right Cougar, only a month to come to the same conclusion as those that have been here for years, you may have discovered a genius!
More of a genius than you, tried reading my reply to Cougar? No didn’t think so. 🙄
FWIW, I get the autocorrect issue on Android 8.1 with Gboard on the forum, but it works fine on the PM system.
Four attempts to post a new thread.
Glad that I saw this thread first otherwise I would just assume it was me.
Malvern Rider – I appreciate that you shouldn’t have to, but try using a different browser. Safari does seem to be a common denominator with complaints about the forum.
Dunno about that, Cougar, there seems to be a significant number of members using Chrome and Android having issues. I occasionally get the garbage text when I’ve c’n’p’d text from another post but I learned fairly quickly not to include the posters name in the quote.
One thing that’s a bit odd is the autocomplete built into Safari works really well, most of the time, often getting the word right with the first or second letter, just from context. However, if I hit return and start a new sentence, it won’t put a cap first letter, or auto complete, but will after the first couple of words.
I use Safari all the time, what I don’t use is Google as my search within Safari; not sure if that would work for everyone, but it’s been working fine for me for at least a couple of years, if not more.
I use Safari all the time, what I don’t use is Google as my search within Safari; not sure if that would work for everyone, but it’s been working fine for me for at least a couple of years, if not more.
I use Google and a few issues some of which you've mentioned above.
I occasionally get the garbage text when I’ve c’n’p’d text from another post but I learned fairly quickly not to include the posters name in the quote.
Yeah, that's not a browser-specific issue, that's just TinyMCE (the editor) being an arse.
Oh, and that post was first go, it’s published exactly as I posted it, no errors. Not ‘victim blaming’ (insert eye-rolly emoji here), just pointing out that, for whatever reason, not every poster has constant issues on here - it was a bit shonky when the new system went live, but I rarely get any issues any more.
Posted from my iPad Pro, using Safari with DuckDuckGo as search engine.
Posted from my iPad Pro
Dear God don't say that I did once and never heard the end of it.
Yeah, that’s not a browser-specific issue, that’s just TinyMCE (the editor) being an arse.
Oh, right. Can’t you make him stand in the corner with a dunces hat on, then send him to bed early with no pudding?
The UK fatbike forum has just been resurrected by a couple of kindly chaps who frequent this forum.
Just signed up, posted to say hello, popped a picture in. Easy. Well done chaps.
– Attempt to click on thread
– Open different thread, as the page is still loading
– Read a bit of that thread
– Close it
– Try again to open the thread you’d originally been looking at
– Go to stage 2 above
– Repeat a few times
This x100000
It drives me crazy.
I wait, wait more. Has it loaded?..
It jumps! Some more random crap has loaded. Do I risk it?.. No! Wait... All seems quiet; it should be ok.... press..
Bollocks!!!!
I'm trapped in the bloody Brexit thread when all I wanted to do is look at weekend ride photos 😫
Just signed up, posted to say hello, popped a picture in. Easy. Well done chaps.
the number of nights I sweated over getting that right ....
one
Hi all,
For those that don't know I'm one of the two web developers at STW HQ. There has been a few issues pointed out in this thread but the one that stands out the most that is causing people the most agro is the autocorrect / spell-check, right? I want to say we don't provide support for third party keyboards. However, we will try to provide support for this issue. (I can say myself that I am also experiencing this issue so I understand the frustration).
One thing we might be able to do is revert to a plain text editor as opposed to the current WYSIWYG editor. One of the downsides to this is loss of features / functionality such as the tools to insert links and images. Would you guys be happy with reverting to a simple text editor if it meant it solved the autocorrect issue?
(By the way, I'm not saying this will solve it but rather it might and I'll look into doing this if you guys are happy with a simple text editor.)
Would you guys be happy with reverting to a simple text editor if it meant it solved the autocorrect issue?
since when did what the users want count for anything on here? 🤔
want to say we don’t provide support for third party keyboards.
What is a third party keyboard? I'm pretty sure most folk are just using whatever came with their device.
I know we keep doing this, but how come STW is the only forum / website folk are having problems with?
One of the reasons given for the redevelopment of the site was to do away with all the custom bits of code that had been added over the years. From a users perspective it seems that all sorts of issues have been introduced precisely because of the amount of custom coding now going on. I honestly can't believe that it's impossible to create a plain text entry field that supports the addition of pictures and links given that such a thing is available on thousands of other forums.
Oh - and a WYSIWYG editor is what we DON'T have at the moment. When I copy and paste stuff I do not see DIV tags everywhere, but they magic up when formatted.
iWould you guys be happy with reverting to a simple text editor if it meant it solved the autocorrect issue?
Don’t forget all the other issues too that affect far more people than the autocorrect. Like the pages crashing repeatedly (“there’s a problem with this page so it is being reloaded” - never seem this on any other site ever) or the pages loading erractically so you can spend multiple times trying to select a thread (why oh why does the main forum page HAVE to reload every time I press back on my browser to come out of a thread back to the list? No other website I have ever been on does this) or the jumbled up order of posts on older threads (surely that’s web development 101 - “display posts in order of time” surely cant be that hard?) or the crap search function (actually it’s not crap as crap would indicate it has some tiny measure of usability) or the extra code cutting and pasting generates.
These are issues that forum members have been complaining about for months since the forum changed and nothing has been done. The site is noticeably quieter and the response from STW has been either nothing or obtuse or denial.
A lot of people post far less and I’ll guess a lot have left and some have cancelled P status. I’ve come back after a long time away and lurking for a while and the site is far worse than a few years ago.
A simple question - why are you (or STW) ignoring all the issues people have flagged up repeatedly?