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Our neighbours own the field immediately next to us (it's part of their garden) and are having a party tonight. Marquees and sound station in place - now going through sound checks which are &*^&ing seriously loud. Wouldn't normally mind much, but we've an 18 month old monkey to think about here.
How far can they push it and to what time? Any particular steps we can take? Can't find much on t' webternet.
And no, we're not invited because they're never around (they own several houses) and subsequently don't know them. The husband did pop round a few days ago to warn there would be noise and was disinterested when we asked them to consider others.
Ta
Ain't they gotta shut it down by 11pm or something?? You can of course phone plod and complain if it's too loud/late ohhh and some councils have hotlines for this kinda thing.. check yours.
That's what I was hoping but our council's website states there is no law regarding times or level of noise. Nice. Am thinking there might be some "countryside" law that somehow applies?
Here in South Oxfordshire, noise should end at 23:00. That said, our neighbours behind had an epic party (which did end at 23:00) when Ms Markie Jr was 14 months or so and I was ready to go round and slaughter them by about 21:30!
Good luck.
http://www.southoxon.gov.uk/services-and-advice/environment/noise-and-nuisance/noise-0
Ensure that the music is turned down so that it is not audible outside your property after 23:00. The best way to do this is to go outside and check.
For outdoor parties we recommend that you move inside after 23:00, to minimise noise disturbance to your neighbours. Close any windows where noise may escape and affect neighbours.
Edited to say that this is not covered by a specific law, but by laws relating to "statutory nuisance".
Depends where you are for a start in terms of legislation.
Generally, if you have all the windows and doors shut, if you can hear the music above the level of your TV then it will breach the statutory levels. The levels also change with the time period, with the quietest period between 11pm and 7am.
I'd ring your local council for advice on acceptable levels, don't put up with it for too long as depending where you are it may take time for a visit. I certainly wouldn't wait past 11 if its still taking the mick.
I don't think there's any stautory level - esp for a one-off.
Is it not possible to have a chat with them and ask them to keep it a bit lower and make sure it goes off at a certain time due to the small monkey? That said, everyone is entitled to make a lot of noise *occasionally*, but they need to ensure it's fair to those around. Likewise you chose to have a kid so have to accept that sometimes there's things that other people do that will cause you to have sleepless nights.
We generally put up with parties as they're rare and we don't have kids, I suspect if we did we'd be seriously miffed but when we have poker night and beers it's often just as noisy. It is a holiday weekend, not mid-working week though bear in mind.
Personally, my rule with neighbours is one night a year, anything goes.
relax, get the barbie out, enjoy their music, have a good drink.
and dont worry about you youngster, kids are pretty robust, and always catch up on sleep.
life is too short to get worked up by other people having fun, cos one day, you might be the other person.......... 😀
My friend Richard is a EH enforcement officer , covering noise .
If it kicks in and is proper loud ( ie hear it inside with doors and windows closed ) get on the phone asap .
The EH will have an officer on call who will come to your house . Dont worry about noise meters and all that nonsense . If they decide the noise is loud enough to annoy ,then thats all they need .
They will TELL the party hosts to turn it down .
Did they not invite you ?
Or even be polite enough to say " Look , We are having a party, but it will all be over by 11 ish , its a one off"
What damo and ton said.
If it's a regular occurrence then it's obviously a different matter, but otherwise take it on the chin.
At least they've actually came round to forewarn you which is a courtesy many don't bother with.
Personally, my rule with neighbours is one night a year, anything goes.
This - only maybe 2 or 3 nights a year and as long as it's reciprocated. I've had neighbours that had one rule for them and another for everybody else in their eyes.
wot ton said.
I'd gatecrash and drink loads of their beer myself.
I would buy balloons and a catapult and have some fun later on 😉
Once a year is fine but I would still want to be in asleep by midnight iwth young kids.
As doubt this will happen i would go visit someone for the night.
Report to the authorities that you suspect a 'Rave' might be taking place. Sections 63/64 of Criminal Justice Act cover these issues I think.
To be honest though, it sounds like exactly the type of event I would very much like to be attending 😆
Appreciate the issues with the little un, but for 1 night... gatecrash and have a top night 😈
What Ton said, parties never did or do my kids harm they sleep right through them.
I think once you start stressing about it your only going to wind yourself up all the more, if this was a regular occurring then you would have cause for complaints, it would of been nice if the neighbour invited you, unless its for a wedding or something. Get some earplugs and chill.
I have spent the last two years filling in forms for my EH dept regarding excessive noise, music and anti social behaviour from my neighbours. Nothing has been done
apart from the odd letter being sent out and the EH officers only work office hours around here and won't come out on spec. I think if your neighbours had a one off party then never mind , kids will sleep through most noises, especially babies.
The husband did pop round a few days ago to warn there would be noise and was disinterested when we asked them to consider others.
I probably be pretty disinterested if I received a lecture when doing the courtesy call. If it's just one night, not really an issue, seems a good excuse for a bit of extra Saturday night booze as per ton's advice.
Once in a blue moon at the end of the garden, live and let live, ask for an invite.
Thaat said when the people in the ski flat next to us were still going hard at three in the morning and wouldn't answer the door we (I wasn't the only getting a bit weary of it) went to the electric board and swithched them off.
If it's a once or twice a year thing, lighten up and get over yourself.
If it's a once or twice a year thing, lighten up and get over yourself.
This
crash it
Could always facebook it? They'd think twice next time. 😀
If it's a once or twice a year thing, lighten up and get over yourself.
+ another 1
relax, get the barbie out, enjoy their music, have a good drink.
and dont worry about you youngster, kids are pretty robust, and always catch up on sleep.
life is too short to get worked up by other people having fun, cos one day, you might be the other person..........
100% this
It's a party, it's a bank holiday weekend.
Can't see the problem really.
My friend Richard is a EH enforcement officer , covering noise .
If it kicks in and is proper loud ( ie hear it inside with doors and windows closed ) get on the phone asap .
The EH will have an officer on call who will come to your house . Dont worry about noise meters and all that nonsense . If they decide the noise is loud enough to annoy ,then thats all they need .
They will TELL the party hosts to turn it down .
100% [b]NOT[/b] this 🙄
It's Saturday Night on a Bank Holiday weekend FFS.
It's not a regular thing, so what's the problem ??
I would Hate to be your neighbour that's for sure. And it's attitudes like that that led me to move to house with no neighbours for a mile or so in all directions.
+ ....Kids will sleep through anything if they are tired.
Adults sometimes just use the kids as an excuse to moan about stuff [i]They[/i] don't like.
The thing is there's loud and there's loud
A party once a year where you can hear the music is one thing, when you can't even have a conversation in your own house because of amplified music is an entirely different matter. I've called the police for the latter and would do it again.
Some people seem to think that informing people of a party is a licence to be as loud as they like, it's not the case.
I don't think the law should even come into it.
What actual harm will it do to you to let them enjoy themselves?
The way you have described things makes it sound like a fairly rare event, and also as though it's being organised quite well.
Any action by one person spoiling the fun of many because a few people can't sleep in silence is actually really messsed up. It's a kind of attitude that's causing a lot of problems in society today.
does that not work both ways?
One person in a street has a party so loud many in the street cant sleep..problem is many think they can do as they please and if it infringes on others sleep then tough shit...that is the problem these days.
think the issue is loud an loud actually as well which I did not consider before
Were is the party lardy?
Wish my neighbours were this exciting i would put a request in for Voodo Ray or Silverbullet and hip-hop body pop my way round the garden. All we get is Britains got talent.
"One person in a street has a party so loud many in the street cant sleep"
If people really truly cannot sleep because of a party in the next garden, they have a whole heap of problems they need to look into that have nothing to do with the neighbours having fun.
so how goes it?
Should be in full swing at the moment, so how loud is it?
Edit: To slow!
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It's awesome!
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are you now claiming noise does not keep people awake and they have personal issues other than the noise ?
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Nope no I really cannot refute such a well reasoned point as that
Awesome debating
Go round and punch every one of them in the throat
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I would Hate to be your neighbour that's for sure. And it's attitudes like that that led me to move to house with no neighbours for a mile or so in all directions.
You dont know me . You have never met me . Someone asks for advice on what could turn into an all nighter . He has a young child . I dont . He has a rave going on next door . I dont .
So , what can you do ? Ask a question of how loud it can be and still be legal on the interwebnet . You never know someone might know the answer .
The majority say let them get on with it , but this isnt answering the question .
We even have someone questioning your state of mind if you cant sleep with 800watts of Marshal power amps turned up to 11 in next doors garden 🙄
So...how'd it go?
Was the party as bad as the flaming on here?
He can't hear you. He's still got the earplugs in.
Either that or he's in the cells and his chainsaw is in a ziptied plastic bag in the next room.
Jim Marshall died the other day RIP just think it was a tribute to the founder of guitar speakers.
Didn't they at least have the courtesy of forwarning you? For that reason you have every right to be miffed/complain. If a neighbour forewarned me I would feel that they have a level of respect for me at least.
What if the OP or his partner worked shifts?
What time did it end?
[quote=hora said]Didn't they at least have the courtesy of forwarning you? For that reason you have every right to be miffed/complain.
Did you read the OP hora ? 🙂
I'd like to take the 'Blackberry defence' ATP's.
OP how do you know he owns 7 houses? Are you one of those nosey/whisper over the fence types? 😆
Now this has been an interesting read!
I am having a marquee and disco in my garden next weekend, as I am turning 40!
All the neighbours that might hear it are 60+ and happy with whatever, and some are attending.
My immediate neighbours will start to call the police at 9pm, as they do if we sit outside chatting in the summer! I will let them know a couple of days before...
I was planning to quiet down around midnight, is this too late, going on the discussions here?
11pm. Why would it be fair on neighbours if you went to midnight? (Serious question) on a moral level.
See what you mean! I am a night owl so midnight doesn't seem that late to me!
11pm it is, then indoors for a quiet time!
Ta
The tension is worse than "is it a sticker or a crack"
I'm one year behind you and I'd 'worry' about 60yr olds- don't forget keep em happy and they'd be your eyes when you are out/on holiday!
Saying that there's a STW'ers Dad who'd probably outparty me past midnight 😀
ciderinsport, the consensus appears to be that a one off event is ok, regular noisy parties not so much, therefore we need to know if you hold a 40th birthday party every week or is this a one off?
Our neighbours have Caribean night in Summer. Everyones always welcome but grumpy here is often in bed 8)
we need to know if you hold a 40th birthday party every week or is this a one off?
A one off 😆 Might do a similar thing in 10 years though!
I wouldn't even worry if it wasn't for the people one side of me, the whole neighbourhood is friendly, except for them! None of the others would care unless it was every week! Oh and a fair number of them will be there anyhow!
As someone who has neighbours with 18 month old twins I would suggest you be careful before making any fuss. We have a gathering (not a party, just a few people round for a beer or 2 and a BBQ) once a year and try yo be quiet by midnight, the neighbour always offers a sly comment the next day despite being warned. Said neighbours children wakes us modt weekends at about 6am. The weekends they don't wake us up the parents do by arguing about who will get up with the kids.
Once or twice a year is fine in my eyes, no problem at all
When I had a neighbour (just one miserable couple who were not attending despite being invited) who might be kept awake by my 30th birthday party, I offered to pay for them to stay in a nice hotel in town for the night, and pay for dinner.
They declined my offer, but struggled to moan about the noise after that.
Well??
Is the party still going or what???
tut.
Noise, nuisance & Statutory Nuisance.......
A perrenial arseache 🙁
Some neighbours regard any noise that they perceive as being a "nuisance", as also being a Statutoy Nuisance under Law. It is not, it is merely a charter for grumpy neighbours.
Can anyone reference the Statutory Guidance & respective noise threshold levels, duration, frequency and acceptable / unacceptable times of day????
It's ONE night.... sorry but just deal with it? Let them have a good time. If it starts happening weekly then phone plod, but one night? Seriously. It hasn't even happened yet and you want to complain?
It has.
It was last night 
Neal is there a waiting list to move next to you? 8)
Hora, you would need to buy the land and build your own house, but you are more than welcome.
(can you feed and walk the dog for a week while we are in Meribel please - last week of July)
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Bloody hell. Didn't think this would generate that much debate!
Couldn't reply yesterday due to looking after little monkey until bedtime then had a mate over for dinner.
Party kicked off at 6pm but it seems the music was kept low and reserved for the marque furthest away - so we hardly heard a thing 🙂 The only disturbance was at 10:30 when they fired off about 10 mins of mega fireworks accompanied by music at the same volume they sound tested earlier. Looked and sounded like Kabul yet little monkey somehow slept right through. No idea how. Party then carried on as before and all was well.
Turns out it was the son's 21st. They're absolutely minted (it's a £25m rebuild - one of several homes) and no expense was spared. They even laid on a shuttle bus for those parking in the field so they didn't have to walk 100yds to the house!
All in all, happy days all round. And cheers for the replies everyone.