[Closed] How do you not realise you have run over someone?

Shocking

I can only guess she heard the thud and thought it was her catching the traffic island. Unbelievably bad driving though.

Holy Crap!

Although - that style of driving looks worryingly familiar whenever I drive down to my parents in West London...it's the "I must get where I am going, and sod everyone else" school of motoring.

Who are Profusion Customs? Whilst I admire their public spiritedness, it worries me that they might get done for a bit of dangerous driving themselves?

Do you have to have a certificate proving that you're smug and sanctimonious before they'll let you buy one of those cameras?

I can only guess she heard the thud and thought it was her catching the traffic island.

Possible, though in the text at the end it says she claimed the damage to her car had 'been there ages' which suggests she knew what she had done and was trying to cover it up.

Ah I didn't get that far Phil.

I'll add though that crossing the road you are supposed to continue looking both ways, Tufty told me. Not that I'm suggesting it's the pedestrians fault but it could have been an emergency vehicle that was doing the overtaking.

Just glad she was done for it.

Do you have to have a certificate proving that you're smug and sanctimonious before they'll let you buy one of those cameras?

emergency vehicle that was doing the overtaking.

Although I expect they would have big flashy lights and sirens and stuff! Not to mention a fair bit of training.

True but pedestrians still walk out in front.

I reckon it would be difficult to convince the judge that it was the pedestrians fault.

I'm interested to know who Profusions Customs are too.

(also horrified by the driving and attitude of the woman, but hey ho, we see stuff like that everyday that but for the grace of god, could result in an incident like that)

I used to commute down Southall Highstreet daily a few years ago. Some of the most appaling driving I've ever seen. I put it down to people with driving qualifications and skills aquired in the developing world being let loose on UK roads. Scary stuff.

Are you allowed to drive the wrong side round that island anyway> Surely not. The pedestrian would be very unlikely to expect something coming from that side.

That should be a lifetime ban, or a term ban and then she should only be allowed to drive Passats.

At least she didn't do it deliberately - I used to get people trying to ram me with their cars on purpose all the time in Manchester.

I blame video games.

That should be a lifetime ban, or a term ban and then she should only be allowed to drive Passats.

2 year suspended, 200 hours community service, 2 year ban and had to pay the victim £500 compensation.

- Internet/youtube comments

Edit: Interestingly, [url= http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1026427&mid=0&i=60&nmt=Hit+%26+Run+Caught+on+Camera%2E%2E%2E%2E+Unbelievable+&mid=0 ]some on Pistonheads are debating whether the video is a fake to sell cameras.[/url]

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I usually have to be pretty drunk to not notice when I run someone over..
I'd recommend special brew and port mixed 50/50 in pint glasses..

derp that is interesting.

Ah I didn't get that far Phil.

I'll add though that crossing the road you are supposed to continue looking both ways, Tufty told me. Not that I'm suggesting it's the pedestrians fault but it could have been an emergency vehicle that was doing the overtaking.

As has been said lights + sirens + training. The emergency services have to undertake extreme care when over taking e.t.c. They would be looking out for people on traffic islands.

Drac - Moderator
True but pedestrians still walk out in front.

of a traffic island!

I guess you are trying to troll but trying to lie any blame after a speeding motorist overtook in an urban area on the wrong side of a traffic island is unbelievable.

The lines on that traffic island are broken, while it'll be foolish to overtake there the lines aren't solid which means it does not mean you can't overtake. I don't think there is any specific rule for overtaking by a traffic island but as I say it's a foolish thing to do and await or will look to see if there is.

Pedestrians are expected to look both ways at all times when crossing the road.

As has been said lights + sirens + training. The emergency services have to undertake extreme care when over taking e.t.c. They would be looking out for people on traffic islands.

Of course they would but cars stop at traffic islands so there's no choice to go around the islands. And no matter how much training the driver has pedestrians and other road users still drive or step out in front even with lights and sirens on.

of a traffic island!

I guess you are trying to troll but trying to lie any blame after a speeding motorist overtook in an urban area on the wrong side of a traffic island is unbelievable.

It would be a troll if I was doing that and unbelievable if I was blaming the pedestrian but at no point did I blame them.

Drac drives emergency vehicles I assume the comment means that even with lights + noise some pedestrians still walk out on emergency vehicles- read the quote above as he appears to be answering that.
PS Surely no harm in [s]sucking up[/s] defending a mod 😉
EDIT: DAMN TOO SLOW 🙄

Sickening.

Any word about the victim?

a girl my wife works with has just been done for drink driving.

She has to do some community service, which involve working in a charity shop so she doesn't have to get in a van with nasty, sweaty, intimidating males doing their community service!

The lines on that traffic island are broken, while it'll be foolish to overtake there the lines aren't solid which means it does not mean you can't overtake. I don't think there is any specific rule for overtaking by a traffic island but as I say it's a foolish thing to do and await or will look to see if there is.

Only emergency service vehicles can disobey the keep left bollards though.

Only emergency service vehicles can disobey the keep left bollards though.

Oh! Good point. 😳 We have to treat with caution though as we have no right of way.

yeh i'm with the doubters, the actual collision bit looks odd to me (not that I've seen many)

yeh i'm with the doubters, the actual collision bit looks odd to me (not that I've seen many)

That's one hell of a prep and set up, Hollywood would be proud of a stunt like that.

dont be silly just petrol heads defending driving like cocks

There are keep left arrows on the bollards, so you can't overtake there.

All irrelevant if you ask me...even if she was driving like a saint, she drove off after hitting someone. She very obviously sped up after the collision, she knew what she had done and 'ran away' hoping to get away with it.

The fact that she was in a rush and driving dangerously and illegally, only makes things worse.

Bollards have a blue keep left sign on them. Blue signs give instructions which are mandatory. So regardless of broken or solid white lines you need to keep to the left of the bollard. Emergency vehicles AFAIK have a free for all as long as care is taken.

I put it down to people with driving qualifications and skills aquired in the developing world being let loose on UK roads.

Yes, you probably do

That should be a lifetime ban,

This.

Any why on earth is her face pixelated?

I blame coming off nights this am for not noticing the keep left sign, don't worry I'm not driving. In fact I'm now back in work after 4 hours off as need to meet me boss.

Any why on earth is her face pixelated?

It's stuff like this which has been fuelling, hoho, the Pistonheads discussion on the veracity of the video.

You don't drive a red car do you Drac? 🙂

Whilst I agree that in theory, it could've been an emergency vehicle, and that it is probably best to look both ways at all times, I wouldn't want to tell the 75 year old man who got hit (if he's still alive) that. As far as I'm concerned, he didn't do anything wrong.

Terrible driving.

You don't drive a red car do you Drac?

Why yes I do.

Lone women in a car, being followed by two strange men with a camera. I know what my lawyer would say.

You're fat, ugly, and have just run someone over?

Lone women in a car, being followed by two strange men with a camera. I know what my lawyer would say

You have a lawyer?? Why do you have a lawyer?

Good on the fellers for following her and stopping her. Nice to see that one of 'em got out of the car to help the victim too.

Unbelievable. What a selfish nasty heartless ****.

I have a lawyer. Good to err on the side of caution, cos you never know when you'll need one....

You have a lawyer?? Why do you have a lawyer?

He thinks he is Hunter S. Thompson.

I have a lawyer. Good to err on the side of caution, cos you never know when you'll need one...

Have you ever needed him / her?

I have a lawyer. Good to err on the side of caution, cos you never know when you'll need one.

This could be said about almost anything

You have a lawyer?? Why do you have a lawyer?

I'm a rebel, living life by my own rules sticking it to the man.

Plus I like to get value from my legal insurance 😉

I'm a rebel, living life by my own rules sticking it to the man.
Plus I like to get value from my legal insurance

wait for it....

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here it comes....

[b]Rebel Without a Clause[/b]

One of my team got knocked down at a red traffic light on Monday. Said he got dragged along the road after being struck. He broke a rib and had a bashed up knee, but still turned up for work as usual without hardly a mention of this!

We have been telling him to report it to the Police, but he refuses. It took him 24hrs to get to see a physician.

This reluctance is exasperating because some angry and /or incompetent driver is still at the wheel of his car, putting people's lives at risk and with complete impunity!

Surprised no-one googled this.

http://www.profusioncustoms.com/

"Based in west London, we are U.K.'s distributors of MagnaFlow Exhaust Products"

I'm glad she was caught, but I do find it odd that a non-police person is clearly going around following people to see if they commit a crime, then appear to commit several themselves. Regardless of the situation I think the legal situation would put you in the wrong for chasing the driver at dangerous speeds through urban roads just to get their number.

I'm glad she was caught, but I do find it odd that a non-police person is clearly going around following people to see if they commit a crime, then appear to commit several themselves.

This, they also seemed to be enjoying it a bit too much - when there is a near miss earlier they say 'that could have been a wicked one'.

Horrendous behaviour from the woman but the driving vigilantes are definitely a bit odd imo.

I think that a jury would not convict them of anything tbh and I doubt the CPS would have done anything.
Obviously they saw the video

when there is a near miss earlier they say 'that could have been a wicked one'.

Horrendous behaviour from the woman but the driving vigilantes are definitely a bit odd imo.

Totally agree. I've considered a dash cam myself for evidence in a crash, but can't imagine the mentality that would make me go out hunting for accidents to film.

Surprised no-one googled this.

We did. Just didn't see much point in posting about it 😉

...now if they were selling cameras instead of exhausts....lordy!

'that could have been a wicked one'.

I don't think they meant wicked as in in awesome. I also do not think, when they say 'smash it', they mean what Richard Keys would think it means.

That should be a lifetime ban

Sadly a lifetime ban is not an option. Even though driving is a privilege not a right, you are not allowed to take away the possibility of a person ever driving again for anything other than medical reasons, not matter how shocking their driving is.

This reluctance is exasperating because some angry and /or incompetent driver is still at the wheel of his car, putting people's lives at risk and with complete impunity!

i've found this too!

I know two people, relatively new to cycling, who've been knocked off whilst commuting. One by someone who flung open a car door another got side swiped. Both cases resulted in injuries and damage but neither would report it despite me urging them too! WTF?? I actually saw the 2nd accident happen so reported it myself, the car left the scene and had no tax/insurance/mot so despite only being a witness the police are on the look out.

I don't think they meant wicked as in in awesome. I also do not think, when they say 'smash it', they mean what Richard Keys would think it means.

I'm not convinced, they sound pretty pleased with themselves and excited to see what might happen next. That would fall into the "awesome, a crash" mentality.

i've found this too!

I know two people, relatively new to cycling, who've been knocked off whilst commuting. One by someone who flung open a car door another got side swiped. Both cases resulted in injuries and damage but neither would report it despite me urging them too! WTF?? I actually saw the 2nd accident happen so reported it myself, the car left the scene and had no tax/insurance/mot so despite only being a witness the police are on the look out.

I've run into the back of a car while cycling, I damaged the car and left a smear of blood over the roof. The driver, kindly, didn't whinge about my careless cycling and his damage and instead picked me up and helped me home, telling me to forget about the car. Maybe your friends were exaggerating? Maybe your friends realised they were easy mistakes to make and didn't think it worth reporting.

We did. Just didn't see much point in posting about it

Raspberries.

What a stupid $itch.

And then the Ejeets here asking if the guy had permission to film...they were not driving close to her and I'm glad their video proved useful in court.

Sorry Mod.

Sadly a lifetime ban is not an option

force them to drive a Passat for the rest of their life then...

Maybe your friends were exaggerating?

i'm not that happy about an uninsured, untaxed person driving around having previously left someone injured in the road so I reported it. If this appears as 'whinging', so be it.

also, they were driving an Audi.

Sadly a lifetime ban is not an option. Even though driving is a privilege not a right, you are not allowed to take away the possibility of a person ever driving again for anything other than medical reasons, not matter how shocking their driving is.

Actually a lifetime driving ban [i]is[/i] an option, albeit a rarely used one. There is a chap near me who has been banned for life more than once (he keeps ignoring it, and getting longer and longer prison sentences plus a lifetime ban each time).

Also a driver called Dennis Putz got one last year after he killed a cyclist.

also, they were driving an Audi.

Burn them.

Actually a lifetime driving ban is an option,

That's good to know, it wasn't possible at one time but that was 15 years ago now. Shame it isn't used more often, but sad that's it now necessary

force them to drive a Passat for the rest of their life then...

Become a STW member?

Shame it isn't used more often

Agreed.

CharlieMungus - Member

I have a lawyer. Good to err on the side of caution, cos you never know when you'll need one.

This could be said about almost anything

As the great Milligan said, use contraception at every conceivable opportunity.

I found this on that Piston Heads site...

It seems like the fashionable thing to do on PH these days to arbitrarily pick the OP to pieces in what appears to be a point scoring excercise.

Not stopping makes you utter scum. A friend was hit and killed about 15 years ago, at least the driver stopped in that case.

I'm amazed at the poor driving around town. Osbourne Rd is best avoided at all times if you cycle in Newcastle.

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But who were the guys doing the chasing?
Surely they report the bad driving and leave the Police to do their job? Wouldn't a good lawyer be able to defend her as an strange unmarked car was following/chasing her?
Doesn't excuse the not stopping. 👿

force them to drive a Passat for the rest of their life then...

I still don't get it 😳 - pedestrian is physically thrown by the car, but completely sideways, no forward component at all

(small screen notebook thingy here - am I missing [b]a LOT[/b] ?)

I still don't get it - pedestrian is physically thrown by the car, but completely sideways, no forward component at all

Currently the internet is 50/50 on whether the video is legit.

If someone I knew had been hit like that I'd be very thankful to the person that followed and stopped the driver/phoned the police/dropped someone off to check on the victim.

I still don't get it - pedestrian is physically thrown by the car, but completely sideways, no forward component at all

The pedestrian was hit by the side of the car, so effectively bounces of whilst spinning like a top. They tend to get knocked back in this case with little forward momentum. Like putting loads of spin on a cue ball except they don't fall backwards.