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8 months old
Eats very well
Sleep at seven as he’s knackered
BUT wakes up at 5:40 on the nose every morning which is just a tad early
Could do with him sleeping for an extra half hour or so!
Tried to keep him up later but he is just so tired it’s no point 😢
Fitted a blackout blind and his room is pitch black, nothing waking him up like heating or anything

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 6:28 am
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he's waking up because he's had the right amount of sleep for him. He's tired at 7pm 'cos he gets up at 5:40.

If you want to make it a bit later, put him down a bit later. Add on 5 minutes a day and within the week you'll be at 0615 which is more bearable, and if you want to add more, keep doing it. Slowly slowly catchy monkey

I think he's too young for a Bunny alarm clock, but ours had them when they were toddlers - they can wake up when they like but it's only when Bunny wakes up that they can start making noise and get up properly.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bunny-Alarm-Clock-Child-Trainer-Blue/dp/B000KC1U7U

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 6:37 am
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All you can do is pray to the god of “it’s just a phase” and give thanks to the god of “at least he sleeps through”

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 6:40 am
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He wakes twice a night

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 6:45 am
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Sensible kid.

540 is ace

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 6:46 am
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha. 8 months old - just be glad he's sleeping at all.

Seriously though, just roll with it. There's no reason why a baby will or should accommodate the patents preferred working hours.

We've got 2 toddlers and a 4 year old in the house. Last night we were up at 10, 12, 2, 3 and fully awake at 5. Some nights are better some are worse.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 6:49 am
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Ah well, screw that particular god then

Might as well try nudging bed time back a bit as above. Won’t do any harm, not guaranteed to have an effect though either (mine wakes as the same time regardless of when he goes down)

 
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Posted : 28/05/2019 6:57 am
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Lol at all the responses so far

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 6:57 am
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Our eldest didn’t sleep through until he was 2 - by which I mean up every hour and a half.
He’s 13 now and could sleep for his country.

So rest assured, it is just a phase.

Could be a long one though.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 7:02 am
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Agree with the above, I read the OP and wished my daughter slept that well at 8 months.

Currently 2 and a bit and still wakes at around 2am every night, then again at 5am.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 7:18 am
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Once we realised that [b]everything[/b] is just a phase (good or bad) we found the whole parenting thing a lot more relaxing 👍

Trying to adjust kids sleep patterns a lot more difficult than adjusting your own to fit in with their plans 🤔

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 7:29 am
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Standard, in the way that all children are different, you have to adjust to them i’m Afraid junior p the younger still wakes around that time or a bit later & junior p the older will happily sleep till 9 given the opportunity but won’t go to bed till late. (6&9 yer olds)

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 7:36 am
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My youngest wakes at 05:00 and has done for ages. Eldest is up at 06:00. We just go to bed a bit earlier than we used to. Tried all kinds of ways to get them to sleep longer and just gave up in the end. Much easier and less stressful this way.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 7:42 am
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We put ours down at 6:30-7 every night and refused to get her up earlier than 7am. If she woke up early we would just leave her and most mornings she would eventually go back to sleep (this might take an hour!) Obviously we wouldn't leave her if she was upset, but if she was just singing away and making noise we left her to it.

I don't want this to sound like it was easy, she used to wake upset several times in the middle of the night and need settling again. This went on for ages and it took a long time to crack it. We persevered though and now we are blessed that she sleeps 7-7 every night.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 8:10 am
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We had an absolute horrible first 9 months with both boys. Complete mental and physical exhaustation. Then like a light switch both boys worked it out and now are happy from 7:30 to 7. They wake up earlier but are happy just to chill out in bed. Only time we have disturbed nights (due to kids) is if they are ill. Ours are now the best sleepers out of our friends. So the pain was probably worth it.

It’s just a phase....

Btw we never gave into them, picked them up when screaming unless obvious something needed sorting, never in our bed etc,... sounds strict, but I think we have the rewards now

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 8:12 am
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We put ours down

Harsh.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 8:16 am
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In around 15 years you'll be wishing he got up a bit earlier than noon.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 8:19 am
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5.40 is late! Anyway, as above just add 5 mins on every so often, that way when the clocks go back he'll be getting up again at 5.40 🙂

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 8:57 am
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How do I get my lad to sleep longer??

Wait until he's a teenager.

Then you'll need dynamite to get the lazy shitehawk out of his scratcher

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 9:00 am
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Is disappoints that no one has mentioned rohypnol yet.....

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 9:29 am
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at that age -

eldest was the world's worst sleeper, didn't want to go to sleep, and when he woke up that was it for the night

youngest had started going back to sleep by himself if something woke him up before getting up time

and now... mostly they both sleep at night... mostly...

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 9:29 am
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There is nothing you can do. Kids are assholes.

If you out them down later they wake at the same time but even more of an asshole.

Ours are 6 and 3 and have different sleep patterns. 3 year old has only just started sleeping through all night, goes down at 7.30 wakes at 7. The 6 year old goes to bed at 7 but wakes at 5.30 and so stones wakes a few times at night.

Just learn to accept that they control you and not the other way round. You'll be fine in 18 years or so.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 11:26 am
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Just wait until you get to the stage where they are dropping the day time nap and then you have to decide whether to keep them going and accept that you will have a really grumpy child for the afternoon or you put them down for a nap and they stay awake until midnight.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 11:28 am
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Wait until he’s a teenager.

Then you’ll need dynamite to get the lazy shitehawk out of his scratcher

Yep, just rang my 13 yo lad and he said he got up 10 minutes ago from his pit!

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 11:36 am
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Our eldest used to wake up at 4.30 am, for about 3 years. He went to bed at sensible times, we reduced his daytime naps. Still woke up. It is just a phase, they will grow out of it. You on the other hand need to go to bed earlier (I used to reckon that 9.30 pm was a late night). It is just a phase. You will survive.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 11:41 am
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In the end, we reasoned that it was better to get them to bed earlier so we had more of an evening without them! The consequence of this is that we have to get up early. Sometimes very early.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 12:32 pm
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@OP sounds like you've got it easy. Our youngest would only sleep on someone till around a year old (that was fun though I did catch up on loads of tv shows!) and after that needed someone in the room a significant portion of the night for a long time. Now approaching 3 and we are getting there, first night in a proper bed last night so expecting some more fun when she works out there is no longer anything stopping her joining us of her own accord.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 12:39 pm
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Sleep at seven as he’s knackered
BUT wakes up at 5:40 on the nose every morning which is just a tad early

You lucky lucky son of a...

our is just over a year, he has slept through the night on two occasions since he was born.
A typical night is:

- bath at 6-6:30 after dinner then ready for bed
- 'attempt' to get him to sleep...
- succeed somewhere between 6:45 and 8:30pm, but if he's not asleep by 8:30 he then won't go down till 10...
- wake between 9-10 for a whinge/feed/cuddle, might go back down after 5 mins, might scream for an hour...
- wake between 12-1am for a whinge/feed/cuddle, might go back down after 5 mins, might scream for an hour...
- wake between 3-5am, this is then flip a coin territory, he *might* go back down or that might now be 'bash parents on head until they get up and start the day' time

Then swiftly followed by the '9am sleepy grumpy time cos he got up so early' period where you wonder if he's doing it deliberately.

Love him to bits.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 12:44 pm
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You know when you were telling friends and family about your fantastic news, and at some point one of the dads looked at you and joked "better start stocking up on sleep"?

He wasn't joking.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 1:02 pm
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Don't live near a big airport do you?

We used to live bear the Heathrow flightpath, 540 is when they start queing up to land & our kids would wake this time every morning....

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 1:05 pm
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Do you think he wakes hungry? If he has mummy's milk before bed, try formula (or a mixture) as it's much more filling for them.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 1:40 pm
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duct tape

Worked for ours.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 1:57 pm
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My two year old eventually went to sleep at 2130 last night. Still up at 0600. Like every other day. Late bed time makes no odds in our house. Eldest now sleeps until 7 which isn't too bad.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 2:12 pm
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you need to go to bed earlier.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 2:43 pm
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I struggle to go to bed after my nine year old. Last night she was like “dad it’s ten past seven”
I was dead set on bed. Very rarely in bed after nine

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 3:18 pm
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welcome to parenthood. my lads been a shite sleeper forever and we're up to 21 months old now.

he was an underweight premmie so initially we had to feed him (ended up being bottles as he wouldnt take enough to keep mums milk production going) on a strict 3 hour cycle - for the first 3 months. and feeds would take up to an hour. add in random wake ups... that was very tough.

these days the routine is.
- brush teeth around 640. change nappy and put on PJs.
- bottle of milk (he has one first thing, and one last thing) which he necks in 5 mins.
- 20% chance he nods off here. 1% chance of projectile vomit if he coughs or the wind changes direction.
- keep him upright for 10, then into the grow bag, cuddles all round and up to HIS bed.
- spotify playlist if he's restless. barry white - playing your game or al green - lets stay together are proven winners.

now somewhere around 730 pm give or take 15 mins.

- get dinner going.
- sit down with dinner. approx 8pm. 20% chance of having to have cold dinner due to resettling.
- up to bed for us around 930pm. 75% chance he wakes on hearing movement upstairs.
- 95% chance he kicks off around 1030
- from this point on its a 99% chance that the only solution is putting him in the permanently set up travel cot we have next to the bed.
- 80% chance of some grumbles in the night.
- 50% chance (and actually improving) change of getting up at 6. today he would have slept longer, but he didnt go down til 8 last night as we came back from weekend away

over the weekend he was with nanny and auntie for an hour and fell asleep in his pram in a noisy amusement arcade. apart from a few grumbles he also did two nights in an identical travel cot bed on his own. seems he prefers it to his posh proper wooden cot/bed so i'm thinking of moving that into his room.
also, he had VERY active days which tired him out. during a normal working week he's running at nursery 5 days so gets plenty of exercise.

generally what seems to happen is he trashes around a bit and ****s his head on the wooden cot which sets him off crying. the travel cot has softer sides.

also. fwiw my manager used to curse full moons with his kids.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 4:07 pm
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Can you not just have dinner with him to at least cut out having to have two different dinner times?

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 4:32 pm
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5:40 is a lie-in - count yourself lucky.

Our eldest had a year of me getting up to resettle him 4 times a night and typically getting 3-4 hours sleep (and getting up for the day between 4 and 5) because once I was up I was unable to get back to sleep.

Now the eldest sleeps through till 5 which is a huge improvement all things considered.

 
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Can you not just have dinner with him to at least cut out having to have two different dinner times?

down the line maybe. BUT we generally dont feed him during the week at home, and follow nurseries timings at weekends to keep things in line with that as he's there 5 days a week.

7 am ish - milk (mostly does this himself while i have my brekky now)
(740 - - weekdays. out of house for nursery at 8.)
830 - brekky
1030 - snack
1230 - lunch
1400 - a single 1 hour nap around 2. (yes thats all, and all he's ever done!)
1630 - dinner
(1700 - weekdays. nursery pick up)
1840 - milk, bed.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 5:03 pm
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4.30 dinner?! That’s nuts!

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 5:17 pm
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its the same for all kids at his nursery (which is also a pre-school so ages up to 4). they all eat together en masse. obviously things slip due to day plans and naps happening later.. but its not wildly off of toddler meal time plans i can find online.

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 5:25 pm
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Wouldn’t surprise me if they were all starving by bed time. We have dinner straight after nursery, so usually between half 5 and 6. Again copying the nursery timings when he’s not in. Means we’ve all had dinner together since day 1 (before food).

Anyway, whatever works for everyone!

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 5:45 pm
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1830 for bed is a bit optimistic imo.
Whoopsie daisy is still up then.1930 in our house.
I had 3 years of a little Git! ,waking up @ 5am. I tried feeding him more , tiring him out with cruel😏 crawling games, blackout blinds, the magic lamp that works for every other bugger in the world & I’m not bitter.Nothing worked.
Shitehawk.

 
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Reading all these posts makes me feel a lot better about my wee lad. Over the last 3 weeks he’s waking at 4am shouting his head off. Some days he’ll go back to sleep others he’s wide awake until I give in about 5:30/ 6. I’m hoping it’s just a phase. I can live with 6am starts but the 4am starts is killing me

 
Posted : 28/05/2019 9:47 pm
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Quick update
Grumpy before bed do calpol A’s tooth coming through. Not a peep from him until 4am where we both got spooked and checked on him - fatal error as he woke up - then back to sleep TIL 5:30. Fell asleep in me in the sofa for half an hour, now back in bed!!

 
Posted : 29/05/2019 9:20 am
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Swap his last bottle of milk to Red wine, that should see him sleep through till morning.

 
Posted : 29/05/2019 9:30 am
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4.30 dinner?! That’s nuts!

The nursery my son goes to has this dinner time too, their lunch is about 11.15..... at the moment he's having a second dinner with us at around 6. When he's been to nursery he gets a smaller meal with us. He goes to sleep between 7.30 to 8 after a bath. Then 'wakes' about 6.30-7am..... however he's still up at least twice a night currently, but we're hoping this is because he's weaning. He will wake for milk around 5 am but always goes back to sleep. We think he's essentially switched to getting his milk at night instead!

 
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8 months?!?
My lad has been waking up at 5:45 for the past SEVEN YEARS regardless of what time he went to bed. And despite his age he still insists on waking us up.

 
Posted : 29/05/2019 4:41 pm