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Next door are a generally noisy bunch. Not one thing in particular, but they stomp about a lot, there's 3 generations of them in there so just about every room has a TV/stereo in it with something different on and the young lad stomps about like there's a prize for vibrating stuff in my house. IT's almost as noisy as when I had neighbours on all sides. One day it's bass from the stereo, the next it's DIY and hammering/building work from the chap who's on sickness benefits. Or the girl who's also on sick benefits is lugging a fridge about in the garden at 12:30, trying to get it into her friends car. Need to close a door? Slam it, it might not shut if you turn the freaking handle. But then some days they're fairly quiet.

I'm working on one of 3 techniques.

1) Drill a hole through the wall, fit a CO2 cannister and empty it into their house.
2) Turn up my music/TV to the point where I can't hear them. Only helpful if I don't fancy sitting quietly reading.
3) Make and install a giant noise cancelling system.

I swear some days I could rip their heads off.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 10:53 pm
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Have you tried speaking to them?


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 10:55 pm
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4) move to a detached house.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 10:56 pm
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Uzi 9mm


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 10:57 pm
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Ear plugs.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 10:59 pm
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Have you tried speaking to them?

I tried speaking to them nicely when they blocked me in my drive with their transit, they looked at me like I'd been completely unreasonable asking to get out of my drive. I tried to make light of it and joke with them as they left the house to get in the van but they didn't even recognise my speaking, just moved the car and went back in.

4) Would love to, plan to, but don't have the cash yet! Could have bought one locally but it was right next to an industrial unit with buzzers and beeping all night long.

Why can't people just be sodding quiet?

Ear plugs.

Not very sociable with the other half is it, and makes listening to the TV a bit hard!


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 10:59 pm
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Grass them up.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:00 pm
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Blimey - By the sounds of your description I reckon I live on the other side of your neighbours!


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:00 pm
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If you do we could gang up on them! GRRRRRRRR


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:02 pm
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as is tradition, there's only one way to be sure
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Posted : 11/12/2010 11:03 pm
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bit drastic but thermal / acoustic plasterboard?


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:04 pm
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We already have thermal plasterboard, with about 3 inches of fibreglass on the back of it. Most of the sound comes through the fabric of the floors/walls it seems. I'm wondering if under-floorboard insulation will help. I've no idea how loud they are in their own house if I can hear them through a brick wall and thermal plasterboard. Surely they know they're being a loud pain in the ass!

Zulus - tempted, very VERY tempted. They have a lovely 52" LCD and newly installed sky HD, while none of them leave the house to go to work.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:06 pm
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brakes isn't technically correct, there are another 3 STW responses:

1.) Own them with a pair of bombers
2.) Send Surf Matt's awesome dog in
3.) Wee in their shoes


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:09 pm
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I did wonder if they'd come round and complain when I had a party until 5am after 6 months of being here silently. They didn't even make a comment. I was hoping they'd complain so I could put my point across without looking like I was being a moaning old sod.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:11 pm
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They have a lovely 52" LCD and newly installed sky HD, while none of them leave the house to go to work.

get with the 21st century grandad, neither me, my partner or most of my immediate neighbours need to leave the house to go to work. we've got the internets. 🙂

we're all quite as mouses though, so it can't be my van that parked infront of your drive


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:13 pm
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get with the 21st century grandad, neither me, my partner or most of my immediate neighbours need to leave the house to go to work. we've got the internets.

🙂 I've had a conversation with them that was basically "I'm ill, he's ill, our daughter has it too, we're all off on the sick".... That was about the last time we spoke.

Their son, who also lives with them, does have a job (his is the transit) but lives out of one of the bedrooms with his young son since he split up with his girlfriend he was living with (a year ago apparently).


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:20 pm
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The ambient sounds of life carrying on around you should melt into the background if you are at peace with yourself..

Once you have begun to find the sound of vitality irritating though.. it get's harder and harder to ignore..

EDIT: this sounds like your issue is about much more than just noise..


 
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They are scrubbers - there'll be no reasoning, unless you call getting your head kicked in reasoning.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:23 pm
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well, I suppose you can be happy in the fact that you are not them, although they may be having a great time and not breaking any laws? It just depends how far you want to compromise and what YOU are going to do to change YOUR situation. I doubt there is much you can to do to change other people that you don't even know. If you want a nice quiet life, live somewhere nice and quiet?


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:33 pm
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yunki - what the hell are you on about? These are not ambient sounds of life, they're disturbing, interrupting and loud enough for me to need to turn the TV up to near full so I can not be distracted by a bass-beat over whatever I'm listening to, or have quiet moments in films ruined by "SLAM, stomp stomp stomp".

I doubt there is much you can to do to change other people that you don't even know. If you want a nice quiet life, live somewhere nice and quiet?

I do, its a quiet rural village. I just happen to have picked a house with neighbours who cant keep themself reasonably quiet.

I'm getting the feeling execution is the only way.


 
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I've got an acre on the moon that I could let you have at good price, but you will have to sort out your own services and there's no cable, but it's quiet with nice views.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:44 pm
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Could try speaking to them - but be very pleasant and give them a Christmas card at the same time.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:45 pm
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I feel significant animosity towards them at the moment, not sure I could stretch to a christmas card the way I feel right now!


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:50 pm
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ahh.. the old veiled "how do I kill all my neighbours and get away with it?" question. Now I get ya! Should've just come out with it. have you tried a search?

you've recorded "incidents" in a log. you're taping stuff, you informed env. health/council/police.Got it official? cos if it was that bad and last choice, etc, you've done all that already right? now you just have to kill them.

erm, I've not killed people before, so I'm wasted here.


 
Posted : 11/12/2010 11:56 pm
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I think trying to befriend them is the best tack, however they may just not care, or think that there's no problem but yours, after all they're just doing what they do.

It sounds like your neighbours have a vicious cycle of volume, all of them trying to be louder than the other.

Have you spoken to their neighbours on the other side to form a pincer movement?


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 12:33 am
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My mum has some noisy neighbours, but they're actually really nice, and are often helpful to her.

I think the 'be nice' approach is a good start, and worth persevering with if initial results aren't too encouraging. Trust and respect needs to be built up, won't happen overnight.

Try imagining how they might see you, and if that is something they're comfortable with.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 12:36 am
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just fake it for 2 minutes!!


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 12:57 am
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While it's all fine and dandy talking about two-way communication and understanding and trust and respect, some people are intrinsically incapable of understanding someone elses point of view because they cannot see that there's an issue, and as a result cannot see why anyone should have a problem. They can't understand that some people have a need for peace and quiet now and then, and because they're incapable of understanding, they're incapable of responding to that person's request. Now, if you knew a chemist who could knock up a small bottle of Putrescene that you could pour through the letterbox...


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 1:26 am
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sounds like a no win situation that cant be improved. record all incidents of loud noise even during the day, especially when it wakes you up or you are able to record it and then get the police/council involved. not sure how to get starte on this but you have to have complained a number of times before anything can be done.

It may get worse before it gets better this way but some short term pain might be worth it.

Also get the under floors and loft insulated if you can afford it as this will strengthen your case.


 
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While it's all fine and dandy talking about two-way communication and understanding and trust and respect, some people are intrinsically incapable of understanding someone elses point of view because they cannot see that there's an issue, and as a result cannot see why anyone should have a problem.

You have summed up Coffeekings attitude beautifully here... It's such a shame really..
If only we could all get along..


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 9:03 am
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You have to move.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 9:08 am
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There's always going to be noise from a large family group & it's almost always going to annoy single/childless neighbours

You may be able to scratch the surface somewhat but fundamentally, it won't change - their lifestyle simply doesn't suit yours


 
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Enrich your life by visiting the local dog trust kennels and adopting a gorgeous yappy terrier or two. You,ll love it neighbours wont


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 9:17 am
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People don't have to be silent in their own home. As long as it is at reasonable times then they have a right to get on with life and not scurry round like church mice. Families make noise.


 
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Unfortunately, I have a similar situation. Muppets who lived next door moved and rented their place out.

The three in there at the moment are just peachy. From early evening till stupid o'clock in the morning, it's just noise noise noise. And I reckon, it's similar to coffeeking's problem. Any one or two of their "noises" you could live with but the accumulation of them all is what does your head in. Wedging their tv in the bay to one side of a fireplace means I pretty much have to listen to an mp3 player every weeknight to get to sleep as the sound just travels nicely up the chimney breast.

They'll sit there of an evening and keep outtalking and laughing one another till they might as well be in the same room as us. Their great big Belgian shepherd (Tyson!, bought from someone they met at a motorway services!) has never seen a day's training or a walk (that I've seen) just runs around the house whining all the time.

I don't mind being able to hear neighbours living their lives. But why oh why do they have to do it at such a stupid volume? And, yes, I've tried asking nicely. It's mrs deadly that's stopping me being abusive.


 
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Option 1 but use VX or Sarin instead of CO2.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 9:36 am
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Coffeking, don't look for a sympathetic ear on STW when it comes to problem neighbours, most on here will make you out to be the problem.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 9:37 am
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I'm guessing they don't own the property - so get in touch with the landlord. I bet the landlord doesn't realise how many people are actually living there. I had a similar family living next to me but the owner thought it was 2 parents and their 2 children - he never realised the children where in their twenties with kids and dodgy boyfriends. After I told the owner about the set up they got notice to leave within the week. They made even more noise during the notice period but I didn't mind because I knew it was going to end soon.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 9:48 am
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Paint their windows black and superglue the key holes?

Enviromental health states something along the lines of noise having to be reasonable between hours of 11pm & 9am IIRC. You could maybe find out some information from the council?


 
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Thermobaric weaponry?


 
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Posted : 12/12/2010 11:24 am
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Similar position here, old dear next door was moved out to a nursing home about 3 months ago and house rented out. Appears an extended spanish family have moved in with 2 young ish kids and a baby, parents an abusive boyfriend/brother, and regular visits from other unsavory looking types.

Even more annoying than noise coming from the house is the pillock has a silly fat exhaust on his car (I mean really loud wakes me up through double glazing) and insists on sitting in it with the engine running. I think he works nights so it is at all hours too. He has the look he'd rather thump you than speak to you.

I was under the impression if you complain in anyway you have to declare it when you come to sell, so we are hoping they will move out at the end of their term. If not we are doing our best to save and move but that's a long way off.

Really sucks, absolutley loved our house until this constant annoyance

On the bright side, they don't have a van or a barky dog.....yet


 
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Fat exhausts can be dealt with very effectively by a sneaky application of expanding polyurethane foam. 🙂


 
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yunki have you had a relapse on your recrational usage oir areyou just trolling.
the OP - yes he could go all buddhist and accept it- but it is hardly being unreasonable to prefer to sit in his own house and choose the volume level on his TV rather than having to set it to drown out his neighbours noise.
Sadly IME it is obvious if you do this in a terrace/attached house your neighbour can hear you and they dont care about you or your quality of life.

Sympathy for you but I have no great way of solving this annoying issue for you.


 
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no no.. grudgingly drug free for a very very long time now junkyard..

I just don't see how it can be conclusively decided who is at fault here..

The vibrant family going happily about the business of family life.. or the rather sour sounding neighbour who believes that peace and quiet on his terms are a god given right..
If you think about the problem with an open mind it's a conundrum that King Solomon would he hard pressed to solve..


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 12:20 pm
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I love all the "just talk to them brigade" have any of you ever lived next to neighbours that just don't give a stuff?

I suffered 8 years of pounding/thumping noise from both sides of our house, these are the sort of people who you see swearing as loud as they can at their kids while swigging on cheap booze in the morning. When I asked if they could keep the volume down a bit after 2am I was told go F yourself!
Oh BTW I kept a noise/disturbance diary and even had the support of the local police, but guess what once they found out what I was doing they trashed my car, pushed burning paper through my door & threatened my girlfriend.

I feel for you coffeking as I know how much it starts to gnaw away at your quality of life.


 
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The vibrant family going happily about the business of family life..

Wasn't so sure, but yep, trolling. Good effort though.


 
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If you think about the problem with an open mind it's a conundrum that King Solomon would he hard pressed to solve..

I'm open to noise, even regular noise such as a party once or twice a month. I'm fine with the stomping when it's occasional and just someone running out of the room, or having a mad moment. But I am not fine with pretty much constant noise several nights a week, clear lack of consideration for the neighbours etc.

At the end of the day it's nothing to do with a happy healthy family etc, I was brought up in a happy healthy family of 3 lads, we were noisy during the day, had the odd noisy evening and after 9 we made damn sure we didn't disturb the neighbours who may wish to have a quiet night in. They did the same for us. If I wanted continual noise I'd have bought in the student district, not out in a quiet village.

There's no need for using a home theatre system to play your computer games at a volume that can be heard at the opposite end of my house, or half way down the road (literally), several nights a week. Again, when I was a sprog when I was playing computer games loud I was handed a set of headphones so I didn't disturb everyone else - it's common sense and basic respect for others.


 
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Good point about possibly not making complaints if you own the house. Surely everyone asks the question "any problems with the neighbours?" and nobody will buy a house at any price when the response is "yes they are scum and I've reported them to the authorities numerous times but it's not worked so I'm selling up to some poor sap and moving on........... But look the rooms are all a neutral colour and the lift insulation is top notch"


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 1:27 pm
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Despite your problems with their noise, its still your moral duty to grass them up to the authorities for being work shy.


 
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yeah... sorry coffeeking.. I was definitely being [i]part[/i] troll..


 
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How about playing a very low frequency noise all the time. Somewhere around 30Hz. Maybe they will get the message , or just deny its you and blame the water board, electricity wires , BT etc .
Shove a nice 14" speaker in the fire place , that should do the trick.


 
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Give this chap a ring:

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singletrackmind, I was about to suggest the same thing.

big PA, ultra low bass on repeat play, go away for the weekend leaving it going. Also ultra high pitched whistle would be good for driving pets round the twist


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 3:57 pm
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I had a very noisy neighbour when I was living in a flat a few years back. He would come home from work and without fail, Eminem would be up full wack until he passed out from smoking too much dope... This meant the noise would be for about an hour or two unless of course the pleb hit the repeat button.....

He then started to get noisy late in the evening so occasionally I would go downstairs and ask him to shut the f£$@ up, however what normally then happened was that I was invited in to drink a few beers, the tunes would be turned down but my girlfriend would then be p$@£$ off as they were quiet but I wasn't. all she could hear was me...... We ended up moving not because of the noise, we just wanted a bigger place. The niose didn't really bother me that much, but when is did, by blood would boil...


 
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leave your stereo on FULL TILT with some of that shite donk music on repeat when you go to work,,, see how they like it.

worked for me 😈


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 4:41 pm
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Sorry to hear, but there is only one real answer - move into a detatched house.

We did about 10 years ago. Nobody disturbs us, and we don't disturb anyone else.

Does though help to live in a decent neighbourhood.


 
Posted : 12/12/2010 4:54 pm
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People don't have to be silent in their own home. As long as it is at reasonable times then they have a right to get on with life and not scurry round like church mice. Families make noise.

No, they don't have to be silent, but you don't have to be silent to not disturb the neighbours, you just have to have some basic thought for others. We don't scurry round like church mice, but we are careful not to slam doors, not to stamp about on the laminate floor and do our damndest not to be heard. I spent my entire childhood in a family of 5 and never once had a complaint from the next door neighbours, who told us they never heard us once, and that's because we were taught a little respect for others and kept it as quiet as possible in the house so our neighbours didn't have to put up with noise.

I do appreciate everyone has a different level of "noise" and I do appreciate people are noisy at times, hell so am I, but I keep it to the middle of the day on weekends (unless people are out enjoying a party in their garden) and I make damn sure that after 8ish I don't make sounds that would get transmitted through the house. Ultimately it's only the low freq sounds that cause the problems.

An example today - continuous thumping sounds louder than the TV. After 5 mins I was getting a bit cheesed off and went out for a walk and spotted them, through the front window. Idiot sat on the sofa bouncing his heels off the floor like kids do when they're bored, and decent parents tell them to stop. In this case he's late 30s/40s and his parents don't even seem to notice it on the seat next to him.

I plan on finding a detached eventually, but in the mean time I can't so I'm stuck unable to enjoy my nice house because of the brain dead morons next door.


 
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How about playing a very low frequency noise all the time. Somewhere around 30Hz. Maybe they will get the message , or just deny its you and blame the water board, electricity wires , BT etc .
Shove a nice 14" speaker in the fire place , that should do the trick.

That's one I always fancied if plagued with noisy neighbours. Unfortunately the noisy ones with the happy dogs and the loud music and swearing in the garden on sunny Sunday afternoons are in the next semi to mine, so it wouldn't work.


 
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If thats the level of noise that disturbs you it sounds more like you have a problem with noise, rather than your neighbours are overly noisey. You have already identified the solution - go detached.


 
Posted : 18/12/2010 10:14 pm

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