[Closed] How are they ebay scamming me?

Not been victim of that myself but as eBay always side with the buyer I'd guess you'll post them the item, they'll claim it never arrived, or an empty box arrived and eBay will refund them

If the address is in London how do you know the buyer is in China though?

Not been victim of that myself but as eBay always side with the buyer

No they don’t.

is the address the verified/validated address on the ebay account?

Not been victim of that myself but as eBay always side with the buyer
No they don’t

Fair enough, there’s probably some cases where they don’t. There’s a pretty definite bias though

eBay always side with the buyer

No they don't.

I've had people buy stuff and get it shipped to a container. Presumably they get lots of stuff sent there, and can then either move the container as one item, or resell stuff from the container.

If I were buying/selling on eBay for profit, I'd get stuff sent directly to storage.

Global shipping program? Half the stuff I've sold seems to go abroad, not had issues with it. I post to UK address provided by eBay, they post to buyer. eBay hold the money for ages now but that's not the buyer's fault.

If you post recorded delivery and take photos of the item in the box and when packaged up, you should be able to argue your case successfully with eBay if it is a scam.

I recently had a buyer try and get a refund for an item that they claimed never arrived, but as I had uploaded a tracking number eBay were on my side, no quibbles.

I've closed my eBay account as I was done over. All communications were through eBay etc. Thought I'd done everything I could. eBay offered no protection.

Buyer said they didn't recognise the transaction and went for a reversal through their bank. eBay rolled over and billed me. Got to the point of threatening legal action to recover money from me. Utter scam and makes me realise I want nothing to do with them again.

Ironic - called them. To paraphrase
"Hello euain, thanks for being an eBay customer for 17 years".
"I'm in the process of getting scammed, can you help?".
"Their bank has taken the funds back, we have to bill you to get ours back.".
"How about sellers' protection. 17 years, 100% positive feedback, I'm a pretty good customer.".
"No, we can't cover that...".

Screw them...

I have items for sale ATM, a buyer bought and sent payment, his registered address was in the USA, he wanted the item shipped to somewhere in the UK and he would then arrange it to be forwarded.

Might well have been legit, but I cancelled the sale, clicked the tick box about addresses different, eBay refunded the buyer and my final sale fees within minutes. Buyer wasn’t happy, apparently he does it all the time, but I’d rather not take the risk.

It was only £30 but it’s money that goes into my “toys fund”. I’ll buy things, use bits and pieces, and sell things on to be able to buy other things. It’s a pathetic way for me to justify spending money on bikes and big boys toys.

None of you miserable tight fisted bastards would buy my frame so flogged it through eBay, have been waiting for the chargeback/damaged goods/never turned up email ever since feels like an uncomfortable format for a second hand item individual sale, buy from trade sellers all the time but selling feels very risky.

Selling does indeed now feel very risky. I've not sold anything for at least a year, and the reason is now ebay have become some sort of greedy corporate monster* stopping paypal and using a different system that to me sounds like a dodgy money laundering scheme.

*Ok they've always been a greedy corporate monster, only now any sort of humanity has gone right out the window.

If I sell anything, it will be on gumtree or if it must be ebay, then pick up only, cash on the barrel head. You can turn up, you can hand me cash and you can f*** right off.

EBay switched from PayPal to Adyen because:

* They sold / spun out PayPal
* Younger / overseas users didn’t have PayPal accounts
* Can know use global credit cards over multiple card networks
* Lower fees

No crazy master scam going on. Only way to avoid chargebacks is to go all in Crypto or rely on Open banking. Open banking won’t take off as is UK only.

Agree system is far from perfect.

I've sold three used Chromecast Audios for £40-50 each over the past few months. All sent to different addresses that I think are related to eBay Global Shipping.

All transactions progressed as I would expect.

Not sure why Chromecast Audios are in such demand. I had initially put them on Gumtree for £5 each local pick up and within a day I had several emails asking if I'd post them. I then decided to put them on eBay as auctions.

22nd year on ebay, my advise take good pictures and describe items well, send to the address ebay states, no where else, and ensure you have tracking covered (royal mail second signed upto 2KG tends to work well).

ps. buyers usually get the advantage but sellers can win too, i had a buyer claim a
zara jumper i sold for £15 was second hand and washed, it still had tags on and had been in a drawer for a few years, i disputed it, then I did a fraudulent buyer report, ebay refunded the lady and they covered the funds, so i didnt lose out, pretty fair..

It works just fine. I have sold over £5ks worth of stuff in the last few months and received all payments as expected and not had any clawbacks. Nice watches, high end hi-fi, cameras etc as well as some small ticket stuff and I have never had a buyer raise a dispute in the first instance.

Sometimes, due to ebay's buyer protection thing ebay take the hit and do not claw money off the seller as there are times where the seller is in the clear but the buyer guarantee thing kicks in. Actually seller protection is much stronger than people assume.

Overall though - describe everything conservatively, take loads of photos and post by a good reliable tracked service. Also take loads of photos of the packing process should you need them. If an item has a particular fault or other negative feature, whilst I always include it in the description, I also message the buyer and say 'Can you just confirm that as per the description, you are aware of XZY...'.

This was a buyer who stated location was china. Member for less than a month. Zero feedback. Adress some unit in an industrial estate.

I cancelled and refunded. £55 is £55 and I'd rather keep it than go to a load of trouble packing something up for nothing. If he is legit and wants to get feedback up then buy some stuff from big sellers and not private.

Bit of a pain as I listed it under a 80% off fees deal which has now expired.

Honestly, I think ebay is probably more trouble than its worth now. Used to be quite fun in the early 2000's but not any more.

Honestly, I think ebay is probably more trouble than its worth now. Used to be quite fun in the early 2000’s but not any more.

Certainly if you are selling at full fees it not worth it, but I've just shifted a load of bike stuff on 70% & 80% fee discount weekends, can't be arsed with other selling routes myself.

For balance I've sold 100s of 3D printed MTB fork mount car/van carrier thingys on there over the last year and a half and no issues at all. Had some bad experiences with used stuff, but those fork mounts sell fast and easy with no issue

I've tried selling them on Pinkbike and FB marketplace and get all kinds of hassle, eBay is much better for this at least. Maybe because it's something quite specific

Not been victim of that myself but as eBay always side with the buyer
No they don’t

Fair enough, there’s probably some cases where they don’t. There’s a pretty definite bias though

The feedback system has evolved over time to favour the buyer. But eBay themselves - so long as you don't let yourself be coerced into dealing outside of eBay seem pretty even handed in disputes - I've had to have them resolve issues both as a buyer and a seller and so long as you're clear they're fair.

I've had more of an issue with buyers in a dispute, having been knocked back by eBay going to PayPal instead who they just refunded without a second thought. That then lead to a protracted effort to get them to actually read dispute and their own policies - in the end they gave me my money even though they'd already given it to the other guy too. So Paypal having been sidelined is quite welcome from a Sellers perspective.

But as for the OP - foreign buyer with a London industrial estate address is probably Global Shipping. eBay manages the shipping, buyer pays the full shipping to the distination country but you only have to worry about sending it to the forwarding centre - the 'Industrial Estate' is probably Fedex or similar

But as for the OP – foreign buyer with a London industrial estate address is probably Global Shipping. eBay manages the shipping, buyer pays the full shipping to the distination country but you only have to worry about sending it to the forwarding centre – the ‘Industrial Estate’ is probably Fedex or similar

I don’t think that will be the global shipping, everything I’ve sold through GSP has gone to an address in Lichfield.

It’s easy to spot a GSP address as it has a long code as part of it. So something like (although this is not precisely how the code is formatted

Buyer Name
665774RK7899BOW
Unit 1
Dodgy Trading Estate
London
Postcode

There’s a pretty definite bias though

No there isn’t. Where’s your evidence of this?