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Looking at an unusual house. Built about 15 years ago with a ground floor with kitchen then down to a basement with the bedrooms in. In this basement, the rooms at the back have their walls underground, but the rooms at the front face the garden. So to get to the garden from street level you have to go down to the basement then out to the garden.
Should I even consider a house like this - can builders waterproof it correctly or will it always be damp and cold?
Thanks in advance to the experts!
It will be very hard to sell on even if there are no damp problems. I personally wouldn't even consider it and I don't mind ground floor bedrooms which I know many do not like, underground is a non starter. Underground can be storage or a games room, den, man cave but not a place to sleep IMO
Thanks, that was my wife's reaction too. She particularly doesn't like the thought of bathroom without windows. It is a bit weird isn't it. Not a cheap house either.
She particularly doesn't like the thought of bathroom without windows. It is a bit weird isn't it.
Why does the bathroom need a window? Are you going to be standing in front of it naked, towelling yourself off while admiring the view? Many houses now have wet rooms with no windows, and how about en-suit rooms?
The guest accommodation I stayed in last year had no window in the bathroom, so I can't see an issue. I'd be more than happy to have the bedroom where your prospective house has them, they'd be nice and quiet.
--Are you going to be standing in front of it naked, towelling yourself off while admiring the view?
Lol- if I do that the neighbours won't be admiring the view that's for sure!
If the walls / damp proofing has been done properly, it shouldn't be a problem. I've been involved in basement jobs at national contractor level which have failed, so would be naturally wary of buying a house with basement habitable rooms
Josef Frizl was a big fan of bedrooms in the basement.
No windows = no means of escape in a fire
Worse than an attic conversion imo.
The front rooms would be fine and the back two fine or occasional guests but i wouldnt be happy sleeping in there all the time.
came to post a Frizl comment, 2 minutes late
forget all that damp crap wont be able to sell it malarky...
Its bad feng shui ! Dont mess with the karma...
Waterproofing may come with a warranty - ask.
Living rooms upstairs means they'll be lighter. You're only really in bedrooms at night so reduced light not an issue. Bathrooms without windows very common in new builds - with decent ventilation shouldn't be a problem. Much more sense to give the windows to rooms you spend more time in.
Women need a window in the bathroom so make-up can be applied in natural light.
timid - exactly what my wife said!
Only ugly birds need makeup !!
As stated...would really worry about the fire hazard.
Samurai + 1.
It'd make a very good dungeon/holding facility. Could be a plus point come time to sell??
Would be quiet yes. But how about heating the rooms? Would cost more as heat would disappear into nextdoors void or into their unhabited man caves/ store rooms.
I lived in a basement flat for 2 years. Never again.
Damp was a constant issue regardless of damp proofing, and the 'being underground' feeling could never be shaken off.
Also, seen tremors?
mine is like that, although its the living room thats at a lower ground level, no problems with damp as is triple walled, and correctly lined. also its better insulated than the above ground rooms.
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Could have its upside...
Is it that build from an early episode of Grand Designs? If it's that one it would be interesting to see how it held up.. Lot's of underground building since then and I think likely to be more.. Am I right in saying that a lot of eco houses use a semi-underground design to aid insulation and reduce impact?
FWIW the last three homes that I've lived in have had windowless bathrooms, but then I am poor
I lived in a basement flat for 2 years. Never again.Damp was a constant issue regardless of damp proofing, and the 'being underground' feeling could never be shaken off.
I've lived in a basement flat for 6 years, wouldn't have a problem doing so again. No damp issues (and this is a 100+ year old building) and it's ground level to the back so doesn't feel underground. I'm in a busy area and my flat is much quieter than the ones upsyairs. It is harder to sell because of people's preconceptions though. Mine is on the market and a recent viewer said she felt it suffered from a lack of natural light - she viewed it at night!
No windows = no means of escape in a fire
just ensure you dont have a fire! if you cant, install suitable warning devices to alert in case you do have one. smoke alarms give you more than enough time to get out in the event of a fire.
No windows = no means of escape in a fire
I'm not sure anyone said the rooms didn't have windows - they *could* be largely underground and still have a window. Fire risk is pretty notional - if you're worried fit new, mains powered, smoke alarms. Really no more risk from these rooms than there is from bedrooms a few floors up.
Back bedrooms haven't got windows. Hadn't thought about fire. They open up onto a corridor which leads to the back garden door so a short sprint to the garden. Where my wife is from, they have bars on all the windows in the house. They reckon the risk from intruders is so great that they'll take the fire hazard. Gulp!
tenfoot - MemberIf the walls / damp proofing has been done properly, it shouldn't be a problem. I've been involved in basement jobs at national contractor level which have failed, so would be naturally wary of buying a house with basement habitable rooms
This is what worries me too. House was built 15 years ago but who knows what short cuts they took.
We're not following up on it now, thanks for all the helpful advice folks.