[Closed] Hopkins sacked from LBC

I've just explained it to a five year old, and they got it straight away.

None of you actually believe him when he says thinks and yet you still engage with him
WHy?

Katie is the same deciphering what she thinks and what she says for money is impossible so why bother?

Cougar - Moderator
Precisely. On Twitter and Facebook, people retweet and share content. Even Chewkw, who seemingly lives in a media vacuum as by his own admission he doesn't do social media (and am I remembering correctly, no TV or newspapers either?), is now aware of who she is by dint of his reading about her on here.

True, I don't use mybookface, twetrter whatever ... 😛
You really cannot believe I don't use social media don't you. I ain't sucker for all thing new you know.
However, I don't oppose them but I don't use them. Simple.

I have to ask though Chewkw - where do you get your information from as to what's going on in the world today? How do you know who, say, Boris Johnson is?

BBC (I like the Welsh anchor men reading news) and Channel 4 troll news. Also I have just recently (three days ago) watched ITV news ... 😆 Honestly, I don't watch ITV news ...
Sometimes on Youbetu ... not that you can understand what they say but it's funny..

As for British politicians they are all over the news so I don't have to go searching for their views later on ... too much hassle. Besides, they are just repeating themselves most of the time.

For someone with such strong and entrenched views and opinions, it'd seem at odds with the notion that you've based them on nothing whatsoever.

Katie is the same deciphering what she thinks and what she says for money is impossible so why bother?

Logically you're right of course, but emotionally I feel an obligation to stand up and be counted as someone who rejects her, everybody like her, and everything they stand for.

I don't know what other people post on Bookface or tweitter so that's that ...

Nor do I - and it's nothing whatsoever to do with the point I was making anyway, Chew.

Pet or human?

It was a chair actually.

And not even a very good one 😉

Junkyard - lazarus

I've just explained it to a five year old, and they got it straight away.

Pet or human?

None of you actually believe him when he says thinks and yet you still engage with him
WHy?

("Where do you get your information from?") BBC

Errr...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40061888

So what you're really telling us that you only take any notice of things that you already know will support your prejudices and biases...

That's open-minded, Chewy...

I feel an obligation to stand up and be counted as someone who rejects her, everybody like her, and everything they stand for.

Does anyone think chewkw or hopkins will change if you just reply often enough?

The reality is only being ignored [ for its attention they crave] will make them stop doing this . However you lot feed them endlessly so he will keep posting tripe and she will keep tweeting shite and you will know they dont mean what they say and still engage them

Odd behaviour from both sides IMHO

I've just explained it to a five year old, and they got it straight away.

You aimed too high, do you know any 3 year olds to check if they understand?

keithr - Member
("Where do you get your information from?") BBC
Errr...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40061888

Crikey, I Do Not watch so called entertainments ...

I only watch News, Documentary, some of the period drama that's all. Apprentice was the last of those so called reality show that I watched.

I don't even click that link ... on BBC. I only click News and World News.

I may click on football league table but that's it ... life is as simple as that ...

So what you're really telling us that you only take any notice of things that you already know will support your prejudices and biases...

That's open-minded, Chewy...

I see what I want to see just like you see what you want to see good or bad.

Crikey some of you really need to relax a bit more ... 😮

Aside from anything else, I'm always impressed by Chewkw's diligence and adeptness when quoting. Ensuring rolly eyes, bold typeface are copied across etc. It's almost beautiful.

he stole that from me

What is his spelling like?

Better than your capitalisation 🙂

You really cannot believe I don't use social media don't you. I ain't sucker for all thing new you know.
However, I don't oppose them but I don't use them. Simple.

I wasn't doubting that; the context was in response to you questioning [i]"Do you actually read her twitter or Bookface? Why?"[/i] This is why; if you engage with the world then it's unavoidable. I can't stand football, but I hear about it most days of my life.

BBC (I like the Welsh anchor men reading news) and Channel 4 troll news.

I thought I remembered you saying you didn't watch TV; my mistake. I'm still surprised that you've never heard of either Hopkins or Morgan though, they've surely been in the news (KH certainly).

😆

i agree when you think they mean it but when its obvious they are a troll or a moron or a clueless bot then why continue?

In the hope that some observers will be given pause to question this stuff and - maybe - to see it for what it really is.

I Do Not watch so called entertainments ...
...
I don't even click that link ... on BBC. I only click News and World News.

Keith's link is filed under "entertainment" but that's misleading, it's a report on some of the times that KH has been in the headlines. Here's a random example (and you'll like it, it has "news" in the URL this time). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38367563

I see what I want to see

Yeah, and that's the point exactly. Being ignorant is understandable, being [i]wilfully [/i]ignorant is... I dunno, it seems weird to me.

being wilfully ignorant is... I dunno, it seems weird to me.

And [i]glorying[/i] in ignorance is positively medieval - it's exactly the attitude that fosters the backward religious fundamentalism that's spannering the world up...

Keith's link is filed under "entertainment" but that's misleading,

Exactly - it's still the BBC, a self-declared source of Chew's "knowledge" (and yes, the quotation marks have significance).

In the hope that some observers will be given pause to question this stuff and - maybe - to see it for what it really is.

neither of them are that daft [ probably]

Cougar - Moderator
I wasn't doubting that; the context was in response to you questioning "Do you actually read her twitter or Bookface? Why?" This is why; if you engage with the world then it's unavoidable. I can't stand football, but I hear about it most days of my life.

There your argument is flawed.

I thought I remembered you saying you didn't watch TV; my mistake. I'm still surprised that you've never heard of either Hopkins or Morgan though, they've surely been in the news (KH certainly).

Of all the people you are amongst the most internet/web/pooter savvy you want to argue that point? Isn't it the modern tech era that allow people to click or see what they wish and what they don't wish?

C'mon Cougar you have just contradicted the technology you use.

Oh ya ... I did not see her (KH) on BBC website ... honest.

Keith's link is filed under "entertainment" but that's misleading, it's a report on some of the times that KH has been in the headlines. Here's a random example (and you'll like it, it has "news" in the URL this time). http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38367563

I did not notice her and unlike you I read what I want to read. 😆

Yeah, and that's the point exactly. Being ignorant is understandable, being wilfully ignorant is... I dunno, it seems weird to me.

keithr - Member
And glorying in ignorance is positively medieval - it's exactly the attitude that fosters the backward religious fundamentalism that's spannering the world up...

Cougar can't you just change the trolls password to a very long line of characters? It's not censorship just removing the trolls platform.
If he isnt a troll can you u just block for being thick

mikewsmith - Member

I need to answer them.

It is Not trolling.

I have answered them according to my own views or logic.

If they cannot agree with me then we have a disagreement in views.

That does not mean I am trolling.

You don't have to run to the mods every time I answered with my own logic.

You may disagree with my logic but that is fine with me.

You Do Not need to engage me if you think my logic is not good enough for you.

I respect your views but I also question them.

Questioning your views is the least I can do.

🙂

Cougar can't you just change the trolls password to a very long line of characters? It's not censorship just removing the trolls platform.
If he isnt a troll can you u just block for being thick

What you have just suggested is incitement with underhand tactics that you as person may find distasteful if that happens to you.

Therefore, why do you incite others to use underhand tactics?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/26/heroic-black-humour-hatred-choose-british-values

He might learn something if he was to read this.

Maybe it's my browser (Opera) but this forum doesn't seem to have an "ignore user" function.

Is there one? I need it...

I'll just leave this here, only two people on my blacklist - but the whole STW experience is much better for not having to endure their deranged ramblings/mad Tory lies.

http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/stw-killfile-plugin

Do you know everything in this world or do you understand completely all religions in this world?

Interesting - and telling - question.

[b]Unlike you[/b], at least I try and [i]find out[/i].

I don't spend my time with my head jammed up my fundament having affirmatory conversations with myself about the inherent rightness of every little thing I make up as an alternative to facts, in my narrow, cloistered, petty, made-up world view.

Thanks, Cha****ng - I'm on it.

Isn't it the modern tech era that allow people to click or see what they wish and what they don't wish?

You miss my point. You can choose to watch a news broadcast, but you cannot choose what news they report. You can choose to read individual articles on the web that may interest you, but you cannot choose what stories are presented to you in the first place.

Football has been going on for how long by comparison to twitwter or bookmyface?
There your argument is flawed.

You miss my point. I was talking about not being able to avoid things just because you don't like them.

So by your assumption you know everything in this world? i.e. if you know less you are ignorant so I take it you know it all?

You miss my point (there's theme here and I'm beginning to think it's intentional). There are no doubt many things in the world I'm ignorant of. But that's a failing on my part, not something to be worn as a badge of honour.

You miss my point

What were you expecting cogent replies, reasoned debate, faultless logic?
🙄

I'm beginning to think it's intentional

Its what he does, endlessly, whilst it works

Ghost ban him and see if he notices 😉

Cougar - Moderator
You miss my point. You can choose to watch a news broadcast, but you cannot choose what news they report. You can choose to read individual articles on the web that may interest you, but you cannot choose what stories are presented to you in the first place.

I agree with that explanation.

However, this is my explanation.

I don't click on most news link or article that they write.

Unlike my work colleagues that have to read everything on the news or news paper (getting their value worth) I don't do that.

Hence, regardless of the content if I don't click them I don't see them.

You miss my point. I was talking about not being able to avoid things just because you don't like them.

You miss my point (there's theme here and I'm beginning to think it's intentional). There are no doubt many things in the world I'm ignorant of. But that's a failing on my part, not something to be worn as a badge of honour.

My view is that how do you measure or assume one is not ignorant if they live in a "different" world or indeed walking different path?

Can a person claim to be non-ignorant if they know a particular piece of information but not in full detail?

I know KH from Apprentice but I don't know her political views in any details. In the Apprentice she argued often but that's all I know about her.

Honestly, people need to relax ...

What I want to know is what people keep listening to her if they object to her views? In fact why double the dosage by reading her bookmyface or teweetter? 😯

I don't click on most news link or article that they write.

But you still see the headline even if you don't read the article.

What I want to know is what people keep listening to her if they object to her views? In fact why double the dosage by reading her bookmyface or teweetter?

Now I know you're doing it on purpose, or you're just employing your selective reading approach here too, as I've already answered that.

Junkyard - lazarus
Ghost ban him and see if he notices

Junkyard I have tried not to engage you because I know every time you loose out on arguments you are going to enlist the mods to ban me.

I have stopped responding to you on many occasions to avoid this.

Even when I stop engaging you, you seem never want to let go but rather decide to incite the mods.

You cannot keep inciting the mods to ban me even if I am not engaging you.

Relax ... chill ... 😯

Cougar - Moderator

I don't click on most news link or article that they write.

But you still see the headline even if you don't read the article.

Now I know you're doing it on purpose, or you're just employing your selective reading approach here too, as I've already answered that.

Please don't keep making false assumption about me then use that to accuse me.

Sometimes when I look at some of the STW threads I just want to question the posters that's all.

[b]Do Not set me up as a troll because I am Not[/b].

Perhaps there is cultural differences in terms of the way we engage people but then that's who we are.

I have no sinister intention to harm anyone apart from questioning their views.

😯

2. I am here on STW before many of you.

I [b]was[/b] here on STW before many of you.

Is the algorithm still playing up?

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Sometimes when I look at some of the STW threads I just want to question the posters that's all.

Commas!

every time you loose out on arguments

every time you [b]lose[/b] out on arguments

If anything, marking your work is more tedious than the content itself.

Please don't keep making false assumption about me then use that to accuse me.

You asked a question I'd already answered. That's not a false assumption, it's a fact. So either you're wilfully trying to wind people up, or you didn't read it. If there's a third case which I've missed then I apologise.

I'm not setting you up as anything (false assumptions, hey?) Any perceptions people may have that you're trolling is of your own making, I'm afraid. Personally I'm not sure whether you are or not, maybe it is just a cultural thing.

If anything, marking your work is more tedious than the content itself.

TBF, picking up on people's typing is more tedious still. It's usually a sign that you've run out of better arguments.

Bear in mind that we have at least one dyslexic on this thread for a start (and is English Chewkw's first language, even?)

Gibberish is his native tongue 😉

TBF, picking up on people's typing is more tedious still. It's usually a sign that you've run out of better arguments.

Bear in mind that we have at least one dyslexic on this thread for a start (and is English Chewkw's first language, even?)

Yeah, you're probably right. I've spent the day up to now riding my bike on Cut Gate, so I thought I'd try to come back onto the field in an impact role.

Actually, **** it, I've had a top day so far, so shooting troll-fish in a barrel is wasting my time.

dannyh - Member

Cougar - Moderator
Bear in mind that we have at least one[b] dyslexic[/b] on this thread for a start (and is English Chewkw's first language, even?)

Are you making fun of them? I might be reading it wrongly ... 😯

I've no idea how, but yes you are.

Cougar - Moderator
I've no idea how, but yes you are.

[b]What I want to know[/b] is what people keep listening to her if they object to her views? In fact why double the dosage by reading her bookmyface or teweetter?

If that's [b]really[/b] what you want to know, why did you ignore the people who have already answered that exact question ?

I know I've answered it.

And I know cougar did also.

So. Why aren't you reading the replies to your questions. And then asking them again and again as if they somehow inciteful and intelligent?

I usually like Chewy's contributions.
🙂

I don't find him offensive at all, seems to be done in good humour.

asking them again and again as if they somehow [b]inciteful [/b]and intelligent?

I know I've just said about not picking up on people's spelling and typos, but you may have accidentally made your question more appropriate there. (-:

What RS said. My lord do his posts confuse me sometimes, but I've never seen him post anything remotely aggressive, unpleasant or rude. Which is more than can be said than most of us, and to my shame, myself included.

So less of the bullying (which essentially preying on a perceived easy target is). Not that he seems incapable of dealing with it.

I should reiterate, I still have no idea what he's saying most of the time 🙂

OK, since it's gone this way- Chewkw is almost never rude or aggressive. But he is a derailer of threads, to the point it's pretty antisocial, and disrespectful of other users sometimes IMO. Pretty much any subject can become a Chewkw gibberish party and once it does it often just kills it..

I often find his views quite insightful.

He does respond when prodded (quite hard, sometimes) but honestly, the guys harmless and pretty funny with it.

Crack on sunshine.
🙂

So less of the bullying

I see no bullying.

This thread was never going to go anywhere useful, but it isn't exactly the first thread to go this way because of the contributions of one (or two) poster(s). People stating their frustration at that isn't bullying. However, it is wiser just to step away and accept another thread filling with nonsense. That many of us keep biting reflects badly on us. We should stop. It isn't bullying though, just frustration. Just walk away people. Leave it.

Or just get it back on track.

A good thread can survive a bit of nonsense.
And as said, it's obviously not malicious, there doesn't seem to be any agenda behind it.

He's just this guy, y'know?

Sorry, wasn't trying to derail this myself. If I'm honest I find most what he spouts hard to decipher.

I just struggle to watch the nastiness thrown his way, when I see no evidence of such an attitude coming from him.

If he's cockwonble in other ways, then I've failed to notice.

Anyhow, carry on 🙂

I see no bullying.

Well our definitions differ 🙂

I know I've just said about not picking up on people's spelling and typos,

I think the generally accepted thing to do in these situations is to claim dyslexia isn't it 😉

(I'm not. I'm just northern)

This thread is the perfect example of why I will never buy the magazine, which I am told is actually quite good.
That threads like this can continue with the name calling, insults and bullying from the usual suspects against anyone who doesn't share their views.
It really doesn't look good on the owners that they allow this to continue.

Explain where the bullying is please.

Edit- by the way, are you really saying, that you don't buy the mag, which you know is actually good, because of people discussing things on the forum?

That threads like this can continue with the name calling, insults and bullying from the usual suspects against anyone who doesn't share their views.

I can assure you that the Moderators have responded to and acted upon every reported post on this thread, all zero of them. I counted twice to be sure.

bearnecessities - Member
What RS said. My lord do his posts confuse me sometimes, but I've never seen him post anything remotely aggressive, unpleasant or rude. Which is more than can be said than most of us, and to my shame, myself included.

So less of the bullying (which essentially preying on a perceived easy target is). Not that he seems incapable of dealing with it.

I should reiterate, I still have no idea what he's saying most of the time

I guess the word is by osmosis

Going from a less dense to a more dense medium? That's a perfect description of our mainstream media. (-:

I guess the word is by osmosis, I guess, and I suspect that Chewkw gets a fair amount of info like this,

Apparently not.

He saw her once on The Apprentice 11 years ago and hasn't seen or heard of her since. Nothing at all.

And has never seen Piers Morgan, or Heard of him, apart from that one time a year ago when he saw 2 minutes of him doing an interview.

No osmosis, just nothing at all.

That threads like this can continue with the name calling, insults and bullying from the usual suspects against anyone who doesn't share their views.

Where has that happened?

I've given yer man the benefit of the doubt with regard to English possibly not being his first language (I think I saw something about it on another thread - another example of taking notice of what's going on around me) but his deliberate, obtuse refusal to inform himself about a subject before going on,

and on,

and on,

and on,

about it;

deliberately ignoring solid answers from numerous contributors to his repeated questions; all the while happily admitting that he has has [i]no clue[/i] about the topic under discussion, is pretty poor.

Even if you do think he's doing it with a smile on his face and a song in his heart, it's not what I call acceptable forum behaviour.

I'm new here, so maybe it flies (it would appear not, mind). My personal rule of thumb is "would I tolerate nonsense like this face to face?"

I doubt I'm alone in answering "no" to that one...

My personal rule of thumb is "would I tolerate nonsense like this face to face?"

That is a very good rule. And in this case I would just be ignoring them or walking away.

In much the same way as Chewkw, I pretty much refrain from contact with any so-called 'reality TV'

Me too - never watched [i]any[/i] reality TV in my whole life. Not a single moment of it.

But I don't live under a rock, and Hopkins is an unpleasant fact of life, even though I've not sought her out, and some of us are utterly baffled by the extent to which Chewkw has claimed ignorance of her existence - it hardly seems possible to be at the same time online and yet [i]that[/i] "off the grid" with regard to what's going on in the world.

The point, however, is that he has gone to [i]great[/i] lengths to "contribute" to this thread, while admitting it's a topic he knows [i]absolutely nothing about[/i].

What in God's name is that about?

Isn't that a species of trolling? It is to me.

That is a very good rule. And in this case I would just be ignoring them or walking away.

Yep, but when you're on a conversation because you want to contribute, is it fair that [i]you[/i] have to bend to accommodate the wilfully peculiar conduct of others?

There's something to be said for calling out disruptive behaviour on a forum.

WTF! What is that? What's this shite about "Happy & Merry Holiday"?

I could not believe my ears when that girl said it at the end of the H&M tv ad ... that girl looks familiar but I can't remember who she is now. Think I might have seen here somewhere on news before ... hmmm ...

What's happening or has it happened already?

Can't you say Merry Xmas? Merry XXX-mas? Merry Satanic-mas? Merry this or happy that anymore?

See that. Correct use of tenses, articles, the question form, just one typo. A post critical of a TV presenter's English from someone who plays at writing pseudo-foreign English. Because that's the way I see it, he's taking the Micky out of foreign accents and linguistic tics which is pretty xenophobic whilst claiming to be a legal alien - who can vote in British elections. There are too many contradictions in Chewkw's Internet persona. I called toll a long time back, he's either his immigrant community's worst possible ambassador or someone who hates immigrants (I could write a long list of other things he hates here, there are a couple in the above quote), or both.

Edit: Google says Hopkins is the female version of Clarkson if I've read it right.

Proves he watches more than just the BBC, too..!

😉

Google says Hopkins is the female version of Clarkson if I've read it right.

Honestly, she's orders of magnitude worse.

Google says Hopkins is the female version of Clarkson if I've read it right.

Clarkson is a non-PC relic from a previous generation (or at least, his public persona is).

Hopkins is a vicious, nasty piece of work who has no qualms about saying horrible things about individuals or groups of people (or at least, her public persona is).

Her latest comment (and the reason she got ejected from LBC, if we might veer dangerously back on topic for a moment) was suggesting that we need a "final solution" after the Manchester bombing. She's previously commented on the US blocking a Muslim family from entering the country on a family holiday to Disneyland - "I wouldn't let that lot in either." She's been sued more than once for libel / defamation. And there's no doubt plenty more.

Clarkson is offensive in a sort of "embarrassing Uncle telling inappropriate jokes after a couple of sherries" kind of way. Hopkins is offensive in a "why is she still at liberty" kind of way.

Clarkson is a non-PC relic from a previous generation (or at least, his public persona is).

Hopkins is a vicious, nasty piece of work who has no qualms about saying horrible things about individuals or groups of people (or at least, her public persona is).

Absolutely this.

Although the public Jeremy Clarkson is a borderline throbber, he's not stepped over the threshold from non-PC denim wearing dinosaur into full blown trying to exploit disadvantaged people for cynical gain in the way that Katie Hopkins has.

You can absolutely say with certainty that Hatey Plopkins is merely airing opinions she doesn't actually believe in for notoriety and publicity, but her tweets and Daily Heil columns are taken seriously by too many people who don't have the wit to understand that Plopkins is exploiting their right wing outrage for her own personal gain. But the moment she refers to refugees as "cockroaches" and suggests machine gunning them in their boats, then she's gone too far. Freedom of speech is a thing, but it exists within the boundaries of law. Hatey Plopkins also fails the Burke vs Bonham Carter test too.

It does make you wonder what conversations she has with her kids.

"Did you have a good day, Mum?"

"Well, I took advantage of a tragedy to further my own fame and notoriety by hinting that genocide against a large part of the world population was an answer. I then lied and pretended not to know what the 'Final Solution' means as I thought it might put my future earning potential in doubt."

"Oh, er cool. Is Asma still alright to come round for tea on Thursday?"

"Er, that might not be such a good idea".

[quote=keithr ]I used to be a qualified coarse angling coach, and once beat the then World Champ Tommy Pickering

Who?

Who?

angeldust - Member 

Yep, the country is full of complete racist, selfish, compassionless ****.

No, not **completely** full, but undeniably a sizeable minority exists.

About 26% of the population (or 37% of the electorate, or 52% of those who actually voted) 😉

She's vile, and should be locked in a trunk and sent to the bottom of the Mariana trench, but she probably appeals to those who vote UKIP and read the Daily Fail, so others are just as complicit.

yeah but the problem is that shit floats!!

whether she says the things she says because she truly believes it or for popularity/notoriety doesnt matter to me....she's a nasty piece of work...both inside and out

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A thought about Chewkw.
It's a public persona created by a third party for comic effect.
Think of Count Arthur Strong - he's the public persona but his creator Steve Delaney is never seen and doesn't comment.
I've allowed myself to swap a couple of posts with him/her/it but then move on.
I'm surprised at how posters get dragged into protracted exchanges with the Chewkw.
FWIW I think the chat forum would be diminished if it was a Chewkw free zone.

IMHO he bring nothing but gibberish to the table
He is not funny ,not incisive ,rarely understandable and too long to be easily avoided on a thread so all hail the kill file

I dont like Count arthur strong either

Minor difference of opinion then Junkyard.

I thought we established Chewkw was a trustafarian from the home counties months ago.