[Closed] Hoof in the slats. ..

This could be good.

That's what SHE said.

You're so funny.

Gone very quiet around here.

My personal view is it should be added to the swear filter.

It's lazy and misogynistic.

I'm uncomfortable with the phrase.

My personal view is it should be added to the swear filter.

My personal view is that people shouldn't say it, not that you should be protected from it. That isn't changing culture just brushing it back under the carpet.
There again I have used the phrase and like other swearing it does have an effect at times that would require a lot more work to get. Whether I should be going for that effect is of course a HUUUGE tin of worms.

You get your hand's off my tin of worms you filthy bugger.

[i]My personal view is that people shouldn't say it[/i]

which was the meaning of the second sentence wot I wrote.

The point of banning it is that like **** and **** it's not language that is acceptable to use.

You can't stop people saying stuff but it being removed from the forum is an indication it's not acceptable.

Have to say I am pretty immune to bad language and people's views on equality, respect etc. but I have to say I do find that particular phrase very unnecessary and not very funny.

It just feels like a more grown up version of a 6 year old saying 'poo' in the playground in an attempt to get laughs.

wwaswas - Member
My personal view is that people shouldn't say it
which was the meaning of the second sentence wot I wrote.

I think we'll have to agree to agree.

Oh are we wringing our hands over this now?

As an analogue to a kick in the nuts I'm not sure where the notion of misogyny comes from unless you are prepared to argue the case for a kick in the nuts being misandrous.

My personal view is maybe we should be making issues of real issues rather than trying to find them where there aren't any.

I say ban threads about US politics.

oh, and whinging about nothing.

My personal view is maybe we should be making issues of real issues

"Kick in the nuts" is in fairly common usage. It's been around since I was at school.

"Hoof in the slats" I've only ever read on here. I've never heard anyone say it.

It might just reflect which threads I look at, but I haven't noticed the slat hoofing construction being used very much at all in recent times, certainly not much relative to a year or two again.

I think leaving those kinds of things to users' individual judgement is a useful tool for others to form judgements about those users, and their judgement...

[i]"Hoof in the slats" I've only ever read on here. I've never heard anyone say it.[/i]

Yeah, it's just one of those forum in-jokes/clichés. It'll die off, like 'baby robin' & pics of some numpty trying to fit tubeless tyres.. oh.

oh, and whinging about nothing.

May as well shut down the forum then.

How many men on here would say it in front of their partner and feel comfortable with it?

Me. She found it amusing.

What's wrong with a good old gender neutral 'shit down their chimney'?

What's wrong with a good old gender neutral 'shit down their chimney'?

It's really gross?

squirrelking - Member
Oh are we wringing our hands over this now?

I assumed it was a piss-take thread rather than one for the terminally sensitive, apparently not

johndoh - Member
How many men on here would say it in front of their partner and feel comfortable with it?

Erm, Me, almost daily.

It's crass, but I can't see how it's offensive really.

The first time I'd ever heard the phrase was on here, and I admit it did give me a puerile chuckle, probably because it was new to me.
I mentioned it to Mrs, and she was surprised I'd never heard it, she says it was in common use when she was at school in Fife and uni in Glasgow.
I cant see an misogyny in it; when I've seen the phrase used on here it wasn't aimed at women in general, it was towards a specific person (and clearly wasn't meant literally)

Fife

Normal rules do not apply

Oh are we wringing our hands over this now?

Snowflake, virtue signaller, etc.

Or we could call it what it is: people having a discussion.

[quote=DezB ]Yeah, it's just one of those forum in-jokes/clichés. It'll die off, like 'baby robin' & pics of some numpty trying to fit tubeless tyres.. oh.

No pudding for you.

Reusing old gags? That'll be £500 please.

I think the usage I've seen on here has been more in reference to men than women so I just took "slats" to be a neutral crotch sort of region of the anatomy, I didn't realise it was gendered.

I have seen the error of my ways and will be poised to take offence in future.

I thought it meant kick in the balls. I am now massively offended on behalf of all the ladies of the world

can we still poke the sponge?

Does "kick someone in the nuts" cause the same level of offence? If not, why not?

I think the thing is I've never seen anyone on here threaten to kick somone in the balls.

Maybe the 'comic' value of slats softens the physical threat the action represents?

Mostly though I'd like to see people be a bit more innovative about the insults they offer 🙂

Only ever seen it on here ( see my brothers been caught speeding thread) and it’s never occoured to me that it was gender specific.....

I’m going to stick with “owned with a set of Bombers” as a glance back to the days of the yellow grey and burgundy forum of my salad days..

[quote=johnners ]I think the usage I've seen on here has been more in reference to men than women so I just took "slats" to be a neutral crotch sort of region of the anatomy, I didn't realise it was gendered.

This. Is it still offensive to say something like this if it is intended in a totally gender neutral way?

Surely we can reach some kind of compromise here?

Why not agree that "Slats" is actually referring to the ribs, a delightfully unisex and particularly slatty bit of human anatomy.

That way , you can still playfully suggest extreme violence without being a horrible sexist.

Could we just use "Kick in the anus" (although this might get confused with administering rectal caffeine)? Most people have one of those?

I don't mind it, I mean it's a bit stupid, but in the list of offensive words based on women's bits it's pretty low down the list.

For the record I personally don't mind the c-word as much as the p***y word. For me it has porny overtones and just sounds sleazy.

Could we just use "Kick in the anus" (although this might get confused with administering rectal caffeine)? Most people have one of those?

Toed in the hole?

[i]Toed in the hole? [/i]

🙂

wwaswas - Member
My personal view is that people shouldn't say it

which was the meaning of the second sentence wot I wrote.

The point of banning it is that like * and * it's not language that is acceptable to use.

You can't stop people saying stuff but it being removed from the forum is an indication it's not acceptable.

This + 1

And this

wwaswas - Member
My personal view is it should be added to the swear filter.

It's lazy and misogynistic.

While we're being offended I find "coke and hookers" particularly tedious. That may be because I prefer "dandelion and burdock and prozzies". "Baby robin" I like very much.

So bikebouy care to answer my previous query since nobody else can? How is it misogynistic unless "kick in the nuts" is misandrous?

So bikebouy care to answer my previous query since nobody else can? How is it misogynistic unless "kick in the nuts" is misandrous?

It's about context. The context here is a man joking about assaulting a woman by kicking her in her genitals. It's really not difficult to see why it's a little problematic.

It's possible that there are contexts in which "kick in the nuts" could be misandrous, but I don't recall any on this forum.

This forum has sunk to a new low.

ransos - Member

It's about context. The context here is a man joking about assaulting a woman by kicking her in her genitals. It's really not difficult to see why it's a little problematic.

You have your answer even without me typing it.

😀

[i]This forum has sunk to a new low.[/i]

I wouldn't say it in a meeting at work, nor expect it to be used in one which is the standard for language that stw seems to use for 'acceptable'?

It's not a lad's night out on here.

I’ve done a quick forum search, variations have been used on here for a long time. Sometimes just in a general context not directed at a person in particular. Other times yes they have been directed towards a specific female.

If you report them we can review. them, looking at the list of who has used it in the past it’s the usual suspects.

wwaswas - Member

It's not a lad's night out on here.

It's barely a slightly exercised knitting circle, let alone a lads' night out!

I wouldn't say it in a meeting at work, nor expect it to be used in one which is the standard for language that stw seems to use for 'acceptable'?

Is that based on where you work, or where I work 😉
Because it wouldn’t raise an eyebrow in a meeting here, wether it was said by a man or a woman.

This place just never peaks...

To put that in context, Id rather trust the judgement of my wife and friends (actual feminist women) over that of a middle age man over what constitutes misogyny.

To put that in context, Id rather trust the judgement of my wife and friends (actual feminist women) over that of a middle age man over what constitutes misogyny.

I genuinely didn't realise that 'slats' was to do with lady parts.

I wonder if ex Aussie Test cricketer Michael 'Slats' Slater knows that his teammates were actually calling him a **** for all those years?

Can't say I've ever felt compelled to use it or thought it particularly amusing. Or original come to that. Often used by people who might also say ‘kicked her back doors in’. Soooo funny.

Should equate to ‘kicked him in the nuts’ but doesn’t somehow. Has more than a sniff of domestic violence to it to be massively hilarious.

'The hoof'

I don't think it's misogynistic in itself, though I haven't used it and I suppose some people could be using it a bit too enthusiastically.

For the record I personally don't mind the c-word as much as the p***y word. For me it has porny overtones and just sounds sleazy.

Agreed, and the way the P word is used is more insidious IMO. Same goes for "douche", in a different way.

I’m another one who had no idea that it related to a female body part. It just comes across as a generic way of ‘assaulting ‘ someone. Ho hum.

I did, I just assumed it was a more humorous and less crude way of suggesting you kick someones **** in. Again, context.

And FWIW I'll take the word of a woman as to what is misogynistic over having it mansplained* to me by a white knight. Maybe if more people listened to the people who are ACTUALLY affected by such issues we could solve a lot of the real problems in this world instead of inventing them where they never existed.

*I feel dirty for using a word that is most often just used as a lazy way to shut down an argument but there is really nothing more appropriate to this scenario.

Shame, I think it has a nice ring to it.

DezB - Member
I say ban threads about US politics.

oh, and whinging about nothing.

Stop moaning about nothing ffs. 🙂

I agree. But not saying that particular phrase isn't exactly difficult and it really isn't necessary. How many men on here would say it in front of their partner and feel comfortable with it?

Can we also change ‘hoof’ incase we upset any horses?

And FWIW I'll take the word of a woman as to what is misogynistic over having it mansplained* to me by a white knight.

When did STW become Mumsnet?

makecoldplayhistory - Member
When did STW become Mumsnet?

After last nights referendum.

Will of the people etc.

makecoldplayhistory - Member
When did STW become Mumsnet?

STW is what you think Mumsnet is going to be - the total opposite of what it actually is

I wonder if ex Aussie Test cricketer Michael 'Slats' Slater knows that his teammates were actually calling him a **** for all those years?

[url= https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slats ]And for the Urban Dictionary translation of slats - I think we can agree it is a slang term for lady bits...[/url]

Reusing old gags? That'll be £500 please.

+ VAT

We heard you the first time. You do seem desperate to take offence.

I don't think you did, I certainly never married my wife's friends, most of whom are more clued up with feminism than the vast majority on here. And I think you have this the wrong way round, it's not me getting up in arms about the term in question.

I don't think we need feminists to tell grown adults that using such terms is unacceptable. If we do, there is a more widespread problem.

When did STW become Mumsnet?

It didn't. On mumsnet they seem able to not have a complete meltdown every time someone says a naughty word

Not seen anyone having complete meltdowns, just differing opinions. This happens.

Mumsnet is the moshpit, stw the balcony of online forums (fora?).

Not seen anyone having complete meltdowns,

Try "avoiding" the swear filter then

[url= https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/sex/3133515-Wet-dream-about-Jarvis-Cocker-anyone ]Mumsnet x STW collab, innit. [/url]

(Caution - it's rude. Oh, and no, it wasn't me.)

Only ever seen it here. Same with kicking in back doors.

Is it a northern thing?

Oh, and no, it wasn't me

One doth protest too much...