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The doctor that oversaw the birth of the new royal baby now why on earth is he on it what about the actual real staff that did all the work I suppose they got a box of celebrations !
Kevin Mc loud ! for making tv programs !
Pete Tong ! for giving us a slang use of his name it really has gone wrong ! ( now lets be honest his music promotes the use of drugs does it not ? )
Ruth Jones ! Now I like Gavin and Stacey but really an MBE !
What a joke what about the real heroes like (me for my ranting on this forum) every emergency service crew in the UK etc...
What a bloody joke time we moved on from all this old royal cak
I know, I thought the same thing...
The Dr who delivered the future king? what did he do besides a task he has done a thousand times before and that which other midwifes do every single day?
Ruth Jones..... 'oh what's occuring' there? someone smack her.
Missing is Tim Henman and Guy Martin (lol) mind you he probably wouldn't turn up and just send the mechanic round with his bike.
I reckon the whole thing is massively devalued now anyway as they seem to be giving them out like confetti. Far to many going to 'celebrities' these days
Katherine Jenkins for simpering and fluttering her eye lashes, she is a Neef girl give her a kebab after a night in Kiwis and a seeing to behind the Gnoll and that is reward enough.
I'm not defending it, but there will be plenty of honours given to people who aren't famous - those who make massive differences to communities across the UK. We just don't hear about them in the media.
even the torygraph are slagging off camerons choices, but hes balanced it by slipping one to his cleaner
the honours lists are just another indictment of a crooked system
Usual STW whinging, happy new year.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25550751 ]74% of awards in the New Year's Honours List are for people who are actively engaged in charitable or voluntary work within their local community. [/url]
I heard this on the news this morning and was looking forward to logging on here to see this thread!
All I heard on the radio was Pete Tong and the cleaners from No 10.
even the torygraph are slagging off camerons choices, but hes balanced it by slipping one to his cleaner
Yes Kimbers but did the cleaner receive anything in the honours list
she is a Neef girl give her a kebab after a night in Kiwis and a seeing to behind the Gnoll and that is reward enough.
Yes please!
The doctor one is ridiculous.
The worst are the tribes of civil servants who get them for basically turning up to their jobs.
I wonder if Andy Murray turned his down?
The hounors are given by the royal family - why shouldn't they give one to the dr that delivered the future king? Its kinda what there for - saying a thank you and giving recognisation to some one who has done something for this country, whether it be part of thier job or not!
As for pete tong - his music may not be to your taste but he's promoting the British music industry.
Kevin mccloud - grand designs and his other programs are sold all over the world, he's kinda like the media face of british architecture.
Like wallop says - these are some of the public faces that the media has picked up on. There will be many more 'unrecognisable' members of the public that also get honors.
Remember - its just some letters before or after thier name - its not like a cash prize or anything! Its only a representation of a 'thank you' for services to your country.
As for pete tong - his music may not be to your taste but he's promoting the British music industry.
Kevin mccloud - grand designs and his other programs are sold all over the world, he's kinda like the media face of british architecture.
And both getting paid a wad for doing it. It's their job.
So what - being a fireman, paramedic, actress or dj it all just a job! Its about the representation of Britain to the world, whether you like it or not british celebrities are a huge part of that - they have been given honours for hundreds of years.
Just because people are successful and make money it doesnt meanthat we should bring them down - we should be lifting them up to the world and saying 'look what we can do' !
I don't think you'll find that there are many British Architects applauding Kevin bloody Mcloud's New Years honour.
And both getting paid a wad for doing it. It's their job.
Like Chris Hoy and Bradley Wiggins you mean?
One of the [s]more[/s] less considered comments from STW this year...
Pete Tong ! for giving us a slang use of his name it really has gone wrong ! ( now lets be honest his music promotes the use of drugs does it not ? )
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The doctor that [b]oversaw[/b] the birth of the new royal baby now why on earth is he on it what about the actual real staff that did all the work I suppose they got a box of celebrations !
Mrs B (midwife) must have delivered 100's if not 1000's by now, all she gets is a shitty 12hr shift with no breaks(meal or toilet) and verbal abuse from the women and partners thrown in for free.
I don't think you'll find that there are many British Architects applauding Kevin bloody Mcloud's New Years honour.
That may be so (I work in architecture myself) - but hes still the british global media face of architecture at the moment.
Mrs B (midwife) must have delivered 100's if not 1000's by now,
But she didn't 'oversee' the delivery of the Queens great grand son and future king did she! Just because the queen has stuck some letters after his name it doesnt mean that the rest of us should get a personal thank you from the queen for all do our jobs as well.
The hounors are given by the royal family
No they're not.
I was being geneal - for the sake of writing a long winded post. comittee may choose them - they are presented by the queen, who is also the public & media face of the honours.
The hounors are given by the royal family
No they're not.
No, I think it's Heat Magazine.
Can't stand Kevin McCloud: Services to be a know-it-all tosspot.
[i]Pete Tong ! for giving us a slang use of his name it really has gone wrong ! ( now lets be honest his music promotes the use of drugs does it not ? )[/i]
Pete Tong is a DJ who plays other people's music.
Pete Tong is a DJ who plays other people's music
well when i used to be in the crowd dancing to one of his sets late 80s early 90s i used to think to myself this guy needs to be knighted, those were the days. God is a dj dont you know.
Sasha more deserved IMO
Gotta love drugs,eh sib?
What ask1974 said
Oh and of course no other music genre had drugs associated to it. FFS morans 🙄
Oh and of course no other music genre had drugs associated to it. FFS morans
Not that I can think of 😉
Oh come on lighten up it was a mere comment for shtis and giggles
now lets be honest his music promotes the use of drugs does it not ? )
that has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever read on here. Or possibly anywhere else.
Oh come on lighten up it was a mere comment for shtis and giggles
Some on here just don't get shtis and giggles.
Anyone who pays any attention to the celebrity awards is quite frankly, having a laugh.
About as relevant as SPOTY.
To get a KVCO (as the doctor did) you need to have worked directly for the Queen(/King) or their Family.
I'm not sure if anyone else in the country delivered any future Kings this year, But unless there were a few I don't know about, then that would be he was Honoured and others weren't.
It's simple really 😉
As has been said this is the same nonsense that's brought up year after year, get over it. The system is what it is and whinging on the internet isn't going to change it.
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Wasn't the Duchess of Cambridge quite poorly after giving birth or did i imagine that media panic? Maybe the doc who simply "oversaw" the birth actually did a little bit more than just sup a coffee whilst the midwifes did their business. Just a thought.
As for Kevin McCloud, he's a national treasure! Good on him 😆
And both getting paid a wad for doing it. It's their job.
You need to know what they were nominated for before making that sort of judgement. Sometimes people do more than the job they're paid for. Enough it seems for someone (or more than one person) to take the time and effort to nominate them for recognition.
For instance Anthony Gormley got a gong this year. He's an artist, he gets paid to make art, so why pin a badge on him as well? Well I've worked with him and I've worked with lots and lots of artists over the last 20 years and I don't think I've worked with anyone who has so much impact and involvement in the arts and more broadly in the society around them, outside the pursuit of their own practice. It was a peculiar experience working with him and he makes a lot of difference around him. So I can easily see how people could be moved to nominate him and it would be motivations other than liking the things he makes and sells.
What a joke what about the real heroes like (me for my ranting on this forum) every emergency service crew in the UK etc...
If you think the accolade matters and that they're worth it why haven't you nominated them? As it stands you didn't and seemingly nobody else did.
Tongy deserves a medal for his staying power.
But +1 for Sasha, and also Andy Weatherall, Carl Cox, Slam and A Guy Called Gerald.
And how long until we get Sir Steve Peat? Might have a long wait if he has to retire first.
Same shit different year? Regardless of who is in charge.
Bit surprised nothing for Andy Murray, given the Wiggins precedent, and strangely have some sympathy that Beckham hasn't had more given his Olympic bid and charity work, as well as being the last England player who appeared to give a tinkers cuss.
Honours are as relevant as the royal family themselves, couldn't care less.
Anyone who pays any attention to the celebrity awards is quite frankly, having a laugh.
If gongs were handed out like sweets to anyone and everyone who's been on the telly then fair enough but the last time I checked there wasn't a CBE handed out with every equity card so presumably these people have done something of meaning and merit to have motivated the nomination. Its a shame to then dismiss that out of hand because they happen to also have a name and face you recognise.
I do get shits n giggles
Anyhoo, just read on FB that the Dr who helped Michael Bonney (and continues to do so) has been awarded an MBE
http://www.itv.com/news/border/update/2013-12-31/penrith-doctor-talks-of-delight-at-mbe/
So shut up with your typical stw whinging
I think the point, how did you miss it, is that famous people get a disproportionate amount of honours just because their job makes them famous.
Certain "jobs" give you a higher chance of an award
Certain jobs guarantee it - head of the Civil Service for example - always knighted on retirment
When it comes to handing out gongs and baubles - aren't the DJ's, actresses, athletes, and beryl the dinner lady just token gestures to distract everyone from the fact that most go to people who 've written large cheques to whichever party is in power?
That seems to have worked then. Again!
So shut up with your typical stw whinging
I cant and I wont I'm typical !
I don't suppose the Dark Arch still going in Neath....
happy days
And how long until we get Sir Steve Peat? Might have a long wait if he has to retire first.
Retire or retyre ................aaaaaahhhhh hahahahahahaha !
God I`m a larfaminitt me !
What tyres does he use anyway !
Frederick Sanger (RIP) turned down his knighthood because he was a humble man and didn't want to be called 'Sir', and he was a guy who won TWO noble prizes. Legend!
[quote=binners ]When it comes to handing out gongs and baubles - aren't the DJ's, actresses, athletes, and beryl the dinner lady just token gestures to distract everyone from the fact that most go to people who 've written large cheques to whichever party is in power?
That seems to have worked then. Again!
Ah the politics of envy so typical of you down trodden impoverished lefties ...I bet you live in the North as you seem the bitter type 😉
You have to admit, it is a strange coincidence that Alan Farthing, the Doctor who delivered the heir to the throne was Jill Dando's fiance at the time of her death.
Was that ever solved? I've heard some interesting rumours about Cliff Richard...
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The hounors are given by the royal family
No they are given out by politicians now, that's why the are so much worse than they used to be when they where decided by the Royal Family
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Jambalaya, you have spoilt ( 😉 ) my image of the Royals sitting round the Sandringham Xmas table playing, "who deserves a gong this year?" after watching the boss on TV. It would make a great spitting image scene.
Wee Eck must be loving the Murray snub. More fuel to the nationalist fire!!!!
Wee Eck must be loving the Murray snub
Who's to say Murray didn't turn something down?
Who's to say Murray didn't turn something down?
Reckon he did. If Chris Hoy and Bradley got what they did then he must of been in line for it. He has already got a CBE or something though.
Fair play to him, if he is a Scottish nationalist, with the coming referendum it would seem to be the principled thing to do.
I notice the meedja are making a huge thing of 51% of the honours recipients being female. I have to share their shock and disbelief. It's almost as if they represented half the countries population, or something bonkers like that!
It's political correctness gone mad etc etc, and do on and do forth...
It's political correctness gone mad
Well it is really. Everyone knows blokes are just better at stuff than birds.
Think it's a load of tosh but if they have to give them to sports people they should wait until the retire. Murry could have 8 years left competing that's a long time to have commentators referring to him as Sir, would they put it on the score boards for his matches & would the umpire have to start calling him sir? total anachronistic rubbish
Think it's a load of tosh but if they have to give them to sports people they should wait until the retire. Murry could have 8 years left competing that's a long time to have commentators referring to him as Sir, would they put it on the score boards for his matches & would the umpire have to start calling him sir? total anachronistic rubbish
Well yeah, either all of that could happen.....
Or he could just choose not to use his formal title "at work" and solve all those problems in one simple press release.
What a joke what about the real heroes like (me for my ranting on this forum) every emergency service crew in the UK etc...
I get paid to do my job so I do my job, I don't need a few letters on the end my name and I''m not a hero. A thanks is nice when we get them.
Plenty more folk who's work goes unnoticed, take Scouting for example, the leader I'm deputy for has been giving her time to give kids the opportunity to get out & enjoy the outdoors etc, for over 30 years & there are countless more like her. Amateur sports for example, Sunday league footie right down to kids level, there are folk who've been making a difference for decades.
Some of those high profile celebs I can understand, but there seems to be this established default whereby a certain number go to the same group of pampered bloody has-beens. Angela ****ing Lansbury for Christs sake, what the duck has she ever done other than line her own pocket as an actress.
Sorry, but the whole thing is a bloody joke these days.
And to balance it out, I don't think Wiggo deserved his. They should have turned in a careers worth of effort at their craft right down to grass roots level.
Pete Tong definitely deserves his, can't say I'm a big fan of his style of music but he has made a huge contribution to the British music industry for over 20 years.
For those who haven't bothered to read the story properly:
The award recognises Sir Marcus Setchell's services to the Royal Household over more than two decades.As well as attending to Kate's extreme morning sickness in early 2013, he assisted with the Duchess of Cornwall's hysterectomy in 2007.
And he helped save the Countess of Wessex and her eldest child.
In 2003, Prince Edward's wife Sophie was rushed to hospital after complaining of severe internal pains when she was eight months pregnant.
She was dangerously ill from blood loss and needed an emergency Caesarean.
It's not just for delivering the latest addition to the family, but don't let the facts get in the way of good moan.
Edit: For the record, I am certainly no Royalist (quite the opposite when it comes to the "extended" Royal family) and I do agree that the awards have become increasingly frivolous over the years.
C'mon Mikey - don't spoilt the fun 😉
Strip away the easy headlines and it's hard to see that much difference between the current system and what most people are calling for. How many awards are given each year. How many are in the frivolous camp? How many are the unsung heros? Etc......what's the fuss, really?
Haven't read the thread, but do any of you who remember the supposedly militant miners' leader in the 70s who later accepted a peerage; presumably as a thank you for his duplicity 🙂
and I do agree that the awards have become increasingly frivolous over the years.
What is the base year you are using? 1984? 1964? 1944?
a lad i went to school with got the BEM for services to northern ireland.. he lived in Hereford at the time..