[Closed] Homeless man winning $1000 - guaranteed to make you happy!

Bit dusty, sort of exploitation but who cares!

Shelter's one of the most deserving charities we have; just saying.

Spent one night 'homeless' as a yoof. Flippin' awful. One night.

Beautiful.

Shelter's one of the most deserving charities we have; just saying.

I used to think that until i got a call from a call centre telling me my £12 a month direct debit was "ok" but £20 would be better. I understand it would be but £12 was all I could give. Shame really.

Some really good poeple out there working with the homeless, I hope his money was spent well.

I used to think that until i got a call from a call centre telling me my £12 a month direct debit was "ok" but £20 would be better. I understand it would be but £12 was all I could give. Shame really.

Yes, that's very short sighted. Shame.

I used to think that until i got a call from a call centre telling me my £12 a month direct debit was "ok" but £20 would be better. I understand it would be but £12 was all I could give. Shame really.

Seriously? That's poor form. I wonder if they are directed to "upsell" donations?

[i] I wonder if they are directed to "upsell" donations?[/i]

Most of them farm out their list of donors to 3rd parties who get paid by results on upsells.

We stopped doing direct debit donations to a number of charities because of the amount of marketing they did to us. I realise that like any operation you stand more chance of 'selling' to people who've bought from you before but it just got too much.

Red Cross were the worst.

Back to the OP: Good stuff 🙂

I wonder if they are directed to "upsell" donations?

That video does indeed make me happy 🙂

I realise that like any operation you stand more chance of 'selling' to people who've bought from you before but it just got too much.

$1000? that`s a lot of cheap booze

$1000? that`s a lot of cheap booze

I wonder how the guy is getting on now - did the money do him any good?

[i]did the money do him any good[/i]

for a minute there, it made him feel like the world wasn't just here to kick him in the teeth on a daily basis.

I'd say that was worth a $1000 of anyone's money?

That moment looked like it meant more to him than anything I've ever got spending the same on a set of wheels or forks for a bike.

Unless he was found dead in a dmupster the following day I'm not going to judge him on whether he chose to spend it on booze or life improving goods and accomodation. His money, his choice.

It was moving that his first thought was to share it with the man who gave him the ticket..
Not run whooping and hollering to the nearest offy..
Even if they have nothing, some people have more than people with everything..

It was moving that his first thought was to share it with the man who gave him the ticket..
Not run whooping and hollering to the nearest offy..

This.

"This is all i need"

Need vs greed, even at a time like that. Better man than me and almost everyone I know.

Huge karma to the guy. I hope it was a sign that his luck has changed properly, not for just one moment.

"This is all i need"

I never get the dusty eye thing that people are always on about on here, but those words floored me. Spent a lot of time thinking about that.

I don't get it. Yea, snice and all that, but why didn't they just give him $1000 if that's what they wanted to do? At the beginning it makes it seems like they going to "trick" him.

We stopped doing direct debit donations to a number of charities because of the amount of marketing they did to us.

I cancelled my Oxfam DD, as my wife was being harassed virtually daily to start donating. Some of their 'selling' techniques were disgraceful. One involved asking if she was a mother, then asking how would she like it if our kids were starving to death.

I complained directly to Oxfam more than once, and I heard nothing back.

Well, if he is being exploited for video views then it's much better than 'Bumfights' a decade ago.

Great reaction from the fella.

[i]One involved asking if she was a mother, then asking how would she like it if our kids were starving to death.[/i]

Did you tell them you would have probably decided against having kids if you were starving to death?

I don't get it. Yea, snice and all that, but why didn't they just give him $1000 if that's what they wanted to do? At the beginning it makes it seems like they going to "trick" him.

To give the guy a moment of feeling that for once his luck was in. I've never won any money before, but I suspect it's a pretty good feeling. Handing a homeless person $1000 in cash might make him a bit worried!

Also, it is of course to generate video views, but in this case I can't help but feel the guy did not bad out of it!

Love it. I wish more people would help out the homeless in a meaningful way. Would be great if there was a shift in the way they are perceived, as people in an awful situation rather than ghosts or nuisances. I guess though, the game wouldn't function correctly without shunning the losers/non-participants. Very sad.

"This is all i need"

Need vs greed, even at a time like that. Better man than me and almost everyone I know.

Huge karma to the guy. I hope it was a sign that his luck has changed properly, not for just one moment.

+1 🙂

Why is that moving? For it to be moving then surely it has to be different, profoundly so (or it is just trite), to our expectation....

So yeah it's nice for the guy to get the money, but he's being used for entertainment purposes and to make the guy giving the money look good, video go viral (make money?) etc.

It's all a bit weird to me, just give the guy the money, off camera and say have a nice day, instead of LOOK AT WHAT A NICE GUY I AM AND HOW REALLY NICE HOMELESS PEOPLE REALLY ARE.

I reckon the homeless guy will work out that it was all contrived, and then he might wonder how he feels about that, being treated like an idiot basically "here, I don't have any money, but I do have this lottery ticket you can have, how about we go and check if you've won anything".

Feels wrong wrong wrong, like I said, he should have just walked up to him and said "I want to do something nice for someone and I want it to be you, here, take this envelope and have a nice day, bye".

Wonder how much 6 million views has earned him?

Wonder how much 6 million views has earned him?

maybe it earned him $1000, if so would that answer your other questions?

No.

Why is that moving? For it to be moving then surely it has to be different, profoundly

What is moving is that when someone who has absolutely nothing is standing with $1,000 in his hand, his immediate reaction is to share it and claims that he doesn't need it all.

The guy's reaction is rare and lovely.

Otherwise there's deceit, manipulation. commercialism etc...

ok nick, i can pretty much guarantee there is a homeless person within a mile of you right now, so why dont you

just give the guy the money, off camera and say have a nice day

Otherwise there's deceit, manipulation. commercialism etc...

Part of me agrees with this (i.e. as a result of him setting all this up, he has made a fair bit of money on youtube). But then where does that leave us with any publicised good deed? Surely all big corporate donations are driven by similar motivations?

It's a tricky one, but I'm struggling to see the negatives here for the homeless guy, so although I agree with the point that the youtube guy is doing this primarily for his own gain, the end result for the vulnerable party is a good one.

If all of those negative traits you mentioned manifested themselves in a similar way to this "good deed", the world would probably be a better place.

Ha! Nick says pretty much the same as me and gets flack for it. 😆 I haven't got a $1000 spare, so I couldn't give it away. Also, I'm not in the slightest bit charitable.

What is moving is that when someone who has absolutely nothing is standing with $1,000 in his hand, his immediate reaction is to share it and claims that he doesn't need it all.

Why wouldn't that be his reaction?

ok nick, i can pretty much guarantee there is a homeless person within a mile of you right now, so why dont you just give the guy the money, off camera and say have a nice day

But how would you know if I do/don't?

Put a smile on my face thanks, shows just how people who have little are often the first to share it!

Homeless man winning $1000 - guaranteed to make you happy!

Nothing, of any nature, has that guarantee on STW. Which this thread has duly confirmed.

[url= http://www.socialblade.com/youtube/user/MagicofRahat/monthly ]Looks like he is making a decent amount of money from it.[/url]

But the homeless man's reaction is nice all the same.

[i]Looks like he is making a decent amount of money from it.[/i]

Now that's what I call exploitation!

can you really make that much via youtube?

what do you people really want to see? i'm sure i could arrange some naked midget fights....

Do you think the homeless dude gives a rat's ass whether he's being "exploited"? This wasn't one-way traffic, he benefits, they benefit.

What is moving is that when someone who has absolutely nothing is standing with $1,000 in his hand, his immediate reaction is to share it and claims that he doesn't need it all.

I'm with you. I get all of the cynical analytical stuff but that was a great moment - really

Do you think the homeless dude gives a rat's ass whether he's being "exploited"? This wasn't one-way traffic, he benefits, they benefit.

In fairness, the most "correct" course of action would have been to tell the guy they were filming for a youtube channel and would he be willing to participate in a lottery clip for $1,000. This would have avoided all the naysayers crying "exploitation", but would have resulted in a rubbish clip. So instead, they filmed it secretly and still gave him the cash. I get the critical comments, but I'm struggling to see how this is truly exploitation simply on the basis the youtube guys earned money out of the resulting clip too.

Serious question...if they donated their profits to charity, would you still consider it exploitation? At what point would the financial gain of both parties tip the scales towards not being exploitation in your view?

the other week i was in a bakery in town buying a Chicken Curry Sandwich. in front of me was an old lady. she inquired about the price of a loaf of bread. when she was told the price she grimaced, pulled a sad face and walked away.

i bought my sandwich and a loaf of bread (€2,35) and chased after her. tapped her on the shoulder and told her she had forgotten something and gave her the loaf. she smiled, said thank you and gave me a cuddle and had a tear in her eye. 😀

i didn't film it. 😥

If someone wants to give me £700 , you can exploit me all you want through your website advertising revenue! Any takers? 😆

i bought my sandwich and a loaf of bread (€2,35) and chased after her. tapped her on the shoulder and told her she had forgotten something and gave her the loaf. she smiled, said thank you and gave me a cuddle and had a tear in her eye.

i didn't film it.

As it should be 🙂

[s]I do a lot of work for charity ,but I don't like to talk,film or post about it[/s]

😉

If someone wants to give me £700 , you can exploit me all you want through your website advertising revenue! Any takers?

are you a naked midget with a temper?

alpin - Member
If someone wants to give me £700 , you can exploit me all you want through your website advertising revenue! Any takers?
are you a naked midget with a temper?

So I said this:

So yeah it's nice for the guy to get the money, but he's being used for entertainment purposes and to make the guy giving the money look good, video go viral (make money?) etc.

So exploitation is harsh, he hasn't been, not really, I happen to think that the problem isn't him getting the money for appearing in a Youtube video, which earns the channel owner some money.

What I think is the problem is that a lot of people on here and on Youtube and Facebook seem to believe that this stunt restores faith in humanity.

So the homeless guy wanted to share the money with the guy who gave it to him, that is not strange, if someone did me a favour that involved me being massively in pocket that person would also benefit, I'm fairly sure most of us would do the same, so why not a homeless person?

Wow a homeless person does a nice thing to the person who has just given him a grand, who would have thought it eh?

What does that say about us?

I hope it was a sign that his luck has changed properly, not for just one moment.

But there was no luck involved.

Serious question...if they donated their profits to charity, would you still consider it exploitation?

I would still see it as a stunt, and therefore not real kindness.

Is not real kindness as good as real kindness?

If all of those negative traits you mentioned (deceit, manipulation. commercialism) manifested themselves in a similar way to this "good deed", the world would probably be a better place.

Would it?

I cancelled my Oxfam DD, as my wife was being harassed virtually daily to start donating. Some of their 'selling' techniques were disgraceful. One involved asking if she was a mother, then asking how would she like it if our kids were starving to death.

Out of the charities that I support Oxfam is one of the few who don't hassle me for more dosh - maybe they've lost my details 8)

But there was no luck involved.

Of course it was luck nick! What's the chances of someone pulling a stunt like this? Then what's the chances that you're the guy they pick to benefit? He might not have won the lottery, but his luck was certainly in that day! I think you're looking at this far too cynically.

What I think is the problem is that a lot of people on here and on Youtube and Facebook seem to believe that this stunt restores faith in humanity.

Nick, no one said anything like that at all in this thread. People mainly said it made them smile. His reaction demonstrated a lovely side of a society often plagued by greed.

So the homeless guy wanted to share the money with the guy who gave it to him, that is not strange

No it's not strange. But that doesn't make it any less heartwarming to me.

Would it?

A few years ago there was a video called Bumfights where guys make a lot of money by paying homeless people to fight each other.

In this video a guy makes a lot of money by making a homeless guy feel really good and giving him $1000.

You honestly can't see the difference in those two scenarios?

Presumably you think Secret Millionaire is exploiting people too?

clearly the guy only gave the homeless guy $1000 to help line his own pockets so basically exploitative well off guy seeks out homeless character which fits his profile requirements & lets the camera roll, now if he pulled this stunt & then donates his Youtube earnings from it to a homeless charity then thats a different matter but the cynic in me suggests that is not the case 🙁

Do you consider that the homeless man has been treated unfairly?

Wwould you suggest the homeless man has been treated unfairly?

No - but I would suggest he wouldn't be so keen to part with some of his "winnings" if he knew how much his benefactor was making out of him & to be truly non expoiltative he should have subsequently been offered a decent percentage cut

I find that totally nonsensical.

[i]now if he pulled this stunt & then donates his Youtube earnings from it to a homeless charity then thats a different matter[/i]

That'd be nice.

I find that totally nonsensical.

The homeless guys innocence & beauty of character has been exploited by the film maker, I'm sure he is quite happy with the $1000 as would most people homeless or not, the sad thing is that the ulterior motive is the exact opposite of what has been captured on camera 🙁

Never before have so many people been offended by helping the homeless. I donate money partly for the feeling of wellbeing it gives, is that explotative too? Maybe I should only donate to bad charities, or angry homeless people.

I wonder how he spent it? Imagine being in his position and suddenly acquiring that kind of money. I imagine it would take a lot of hard thought to make the best of it without losing it. It's not like he can just bank it.

What would YOU do?

I think the phrase "causing a fight in an empty hoose" applies here.

jambourgie - Member

What would YOU do?