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 MTT
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Before I inadvertently burn my new old house down I thought I’d check if the follow was going to be possible and how to go about doing it. I have no practical skills.

In short, I’m looking to add a timer module to a 3kw immersion heater:

Module – [url= http://www.timeguard.com/products/time/immersion-and-general-purpose-timeswitches/24-hour-fused-spur-timeswitch ]here[/url]

Bathroom socket selection, 'heat' is the one in question:

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Inside:

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Two questions:

1.The existing setup has two earth connections, one on the power line in and one on the lead out to the heater, each is connected to a separate earth screw. The timer above has a single earth screw – is this a problem? If so, what is the solution?

2.Can you see any other issues with this?

Thanks


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 1:55 pm
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1. No problem. That metal bar is linking the two earth connections.

2. Nope.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:02 pm
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Flap - thanks, the issue with the new module is that it only appears to have one earth connection, see page 4 [url= http://www.timeguard.com/media/3027/FST24_FST77_Instructs_135x85_issue2.pdf ]here[/url]

Could you just bodge both earth connections into the same hole/screw?


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:26 pm
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no harm to you, but that wall is a mess. looks like a re wire is due to me .


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:27 pm
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Provided they fit, yes you can do that, but make sure you've done the screw up really tight afterwards and that they can't pull out.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:29 pm
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Could you just bodge both earth connections into the same hole/screw?
Its fine to do that. Just give them both a tug once tightened to make sure they have caught properly.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:30 pm
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Ok, thanks all, I'll give it a go.

rmacattack - that wall wont exist before long... new wiring, heating/plumbing, floors, kitchen, bathroom, quite a few windows... Saving the money is the biggest issue.

This is a temporary measure to make things a bit easier in the morning.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:35 pm
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It's fine to stick them in together.
Although the load cable looks like it's a flex so it might be tricky, but not impossible, to get them tightened up together.
As others have said give it a tug once you have tightened up the earth terminal to make sure they are in properly.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:38 pm
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If you have some needle pliers you could twist the wires into one piece to aid them going in and staying in.

I wish I had done just that last night after fitting a new ceiling light and the second one in the run stopped working as one of the live terminals popped out, which meant I had to take the whole thing down again which, given its design, was a faff.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 2:50 pm
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no harm to you, but that wall is a mess. looks like a re wire is due to me .

Spoken like a true Sparky, but you forgot to say that he needs a new consumer unit too.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 3:26 pm
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Spoken like a true Sparky, but you forgot to say that he needs a new consumer unit too.

It needs the works.

The boiler is 36 years old...


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 3:49 pm
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That wallpaper tho.....wow


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 3:50 pm
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Ps. thanks again for the feedback, I've ordered the timer module so should be good to go soon enough.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 3:50 pm
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That wallpaper tho.....wow

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Posted : 09/01/2018 3:59 pm
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twist the wires into one piece to aid them going in and staying in.
Post that on an electricians forum and it'll run to 78 pages 😀


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 4:51 pm
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Do the curtains match exactly? If they do OMG.


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 8:50 pm
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Does it really need to say "plug" on the one with a... plug... in it?


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 9:23 pm
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How do you know it says PLUG? all I can see is _UG


 
Posted : 09/01/2018 9:39 pm
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Does it really need to say "plug" on the one with a... plug... in it?

But we didnt know to put a plug in it until we wrote plug on it. Now that it's got a plug in it makes perfect sense.

Do the curtains match exactly? If they do OMG.

If you mean: Are they the same pattern - Yes
If you mean: When fully drawn, do the curtains line up with the wallpaper - also Yes.


 
Posted : 10/01/2018 8:12 pm

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