Holding this government to account .

The good law project.

https://goodlawproject.org/

yes I agree. We should weaponise their own catchphrase against them and 'get Brexit done!' Also we need to motivate all the **** ers who voted Tory to also hold them to account.

Good law project look more than worthy.
Direct debit set up.

https://www.bestforbritain.org/

I donate to the good law project, I hate this government and they are the only ones holding them to account. I like starmer, but we really need a vicious opposition to rip them apart.

The problem is that the majority of the country don't seem interested and that is why they just get away with denial, denial and ignore.

As worthy as I find their cause, what 'practical good' are the Good Law Project actually achieving? By which I mean how are they actually changing the Government's behaviours? It feels a bit like they're scoring 'technical' victories, which whilst of note are of little actual consequence.

I like starmer, but we really need a vicious opposition to rip them apart.

We need an opposition, full stop. Starmer isn't it.

As worthy as I find their cause, what ‘practical good’ are the Good Law Project actually achieving? By which I mean how are they actually changing the Government’s behaviours? It feels a bit like they’re scoring ‘technical’ victories, which whilst of note are of little actual consequence.

I've been thinking much the same. I do support GLP, and have donated. They have been successful in bringing actions to court and achieving judgements against the Government. But I don't see that there is any consequence to either the Government or individuals following this.

We need an opposition, full stop. Starmer isn’t it.

How very dare you sir, he is leader of Her Majesty's Most Loyal Opposition

Still, being loyal to Her Majesty seems to have it's rewards...

https://twitter.com/OldTomYoung/status/1291316784193249281

Now, if only there was evidence to suggest that the 2 party political system is a cunning device used to divide and distract...

I’ve been thinking much the same. I do support GLP, and have donated. They have been successful in bringing actions to court and achieving judgements against the Government. But I don’t see that there is any consequence to either the Government or individuals following this.

Without the GLP it would have been swept under the carpet and you'd be happily unaware of all the vast profits made by Tory Donors for duff PPE etc.

I do get your frustration thou, I don't get why they aren't history when you look at UK Covid Deaths 131,854 vs Australia 986.

The taken back border control that wasn't used.

taking them to court is a bit irrelevant - they'll just change the judicial system to stop those "pesky judges" from interfering in politics. I'm afraid that Startmer, being a QC, doesn't quite get how UK politics actually works and thinks its like the courts where a good argument wins and what the media says is irrelevant, when in fact it's the opposite. In that sense, I think Donkeys is probably better than GoodLaw. In reality, though I think people just laugh at the satire without questioning how to bring about change.

Without the GLP it would have been swept under the carpet and you’d be happily unaware of all the vast profits made by Tory Donors for duff PPE etc.

Okay, so we're now happily aware (and not in the least surprised) about said profits. So what?

We do need a proper opposition. But don't forget when we started the 20 year mess we are now in the opposition were the Tory's.

What we need is a different version of politics. Voting for the current two parties seems pointless. The third party don't stand a chance of getting in with the current system.

Seems even more ridiculous that the most pressing issue is the Climate and the Green party don't really exist as a political force.

I've got probably 30 odd years left - I doubt very much politics will be any different in that time given its been the way it is since it started.

Zippy i like you would like these *s held to account, trouble is most of the folk who voted for them actually admire the operating model and the ethics.

This is evident even in the Redwalls, "that Boris he's a bit of a lad" "well if he can get away with it good luck"

The voting population has been reduced to submissve shambling beasts doffing their caps at them there clever Tories and thinking voting for them was a protest...

Or in short its *ed.

I do get your frustration thou, I don’t get why they aren’t history when you look at UK Covid Deaths 131,854 vs Australia 986.

If you are using that comparator you are comparing chalk and cheese. The UK gov has not covered itself in glory but any Aus/NZ comparator doesn't work due to geography and the different economies

Australian Population 27 million or 1/3 of the UK.

I agree geography plays a part but pro rata thats 3000 v 130,000 deaths. Thats a ****ing huge difference.

Life is cheap in the UK particularly when sums of money are involved.

Very different geography and economy as well, it's not just pro rata.

I am no fan of the current government but need to do fair compensations as otherwise your no better than them.

the lack of take away chicken and milkshakes will probably have more of an effect than evidence based, reasoned argument.

I am no fan of the current government but need to do fair compensations as otherwise your no better than them.

The people who get them out will have come up with their own slogans on a bus,fair is unfortunately for the losers.

Emotions rather than evidence based, reasoned argument allowed them in and will probably be what gets them out.

I see an island that did everything they could do to stop the spread of Covid against one that just wanted to let it rip and then let their friends milk it whilst ignoring the rules they set for everyone else.

It kind of has to be a multifaceted strategy (funnily enough a bit like how the Tories have sewn up a lot of the media to control narrative).

GLP need funding to land those "technical victories" because that then becomes the ammunition for the likes of Led By Donkeys and a (hypothetically) visible opposition...

I reckon you should give your money to GLP, as rulings against the chumocracy and their peers fuels any campaign to unseat them.

Holding this government to account

Will.
Not.
Happen.

All they have to do is characterise any attempt as a conspiracy by pinko immigrant-lovers and wave a Union Jack.

Enough knuckleheads will go for it and...

Job jobbed.

Very different geography and economy as well, it’s not just pro rata.

I'll accept your point, but not all of the difference in death rates can be assigned to geography and economy. That's very naive.

One things for sure, while I haven't got an answer to the OPS question, if so many of us are just going to shrug our shoulders and think nothing can change, we truly will have the government we deserve.

We had proper opposition in Corbyn and he got slaughtered by the media every time he opened his mouth.

"I wouldn't vote for the rubbish that Corbyn's proposing"

Oh yeah, which bit

"Well.... Bloody rubbish"

*A mate's dad, blinded by the headlines.

Unfortunately Corbyn was an open goal for the Tory Media. Like it or not, so much of the UK electorate is so stupid that they barely get beyond a headline over an unflattering photo on Facebook. This was the key realisation of Leave, Cummings et al. Never underestimate the stupidity of your audience and their yearning for an easy answer to complex issues and an easily identifiable bogeyman.

Stick a Union Jack in a pile of dogshit and enough people will vote for it.

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Never underestimate the stupidity of your audience and their yearning for an easy answer to complex issues and an easily identifiable bogeyman.

I think it's the second two that are easily dismissed as the first.

I think it’s the second two that are easily dismissed as the first.

You have to be stupid in the first place to fall for the second two.

You have to be stupid in the first place to fall for the second two.

Human nature to want an easy solution, rather than stupidity. Dismissing people who don't/can't understand simply as stupid runs the risk of being arrogant.

GLP need funding to land those “technical victories” because that then becomes the ammunition for the likes of Led By Donkeys and a (hypothetically) visible opposition…

+1

The legal rulings put it on the record.

The naughty attempts to lose WhatsApp conversations and the governments attempt to withhold info at any legal cost to keep the public in the dark of their actions.(whose money is being spent)

Still a little bit more of extinction rebellion blocking the Queens Highway should push the policing bill over the line and prevent any future dissent 🙂

Human nature to want an easy solution, rather than stupidity. Dismissing people who don’t/can’t understand simply as stupid runs the risk of being arrogant.

Saying it is 'human nature' runs the risk of assigning a glib and easy answer....

The naughty attempts to lose WhatsApp conversations

WhatsApp is a hacker's wet dream. Someone outside of the management structure of WhatsApp has those messages. It just depends on their 'price' before they are leaked. The problem is that if they are leaked through unofficial channels they are easy to dismiss as fake.

The problem is that if they are leaked through unofficial channels they are easy to dismiss as fake.

I don't think that they tried to claim the Cummings "revelations" as fake.

Cummings is different from some anonymous source on t'interwebz.

Plus, knowing Cummings, he would have some other 'insurance' put by in case the need should arise.

Whatsapp is encrypted in transit, nott encrypted at rest on the device by default.

To access an individuals whatsapp messages you have to access their device/application which is reasonably easy via phishing or using compromised credentials. Problem is its a "phone hacking" scenario so even if Cummins could do it it would never see the light of day.

However he and many others will have parts of conversations so there willbe evidence which could demonstrate that others have deleted messages/conversations.

Needs the good law people to find an issue and prosecute a case - however the redwalls dont give a ****

My money has helped with this.
https://goodlawproject.org/update/success-restore-trust-caves-in-to-legal-challenge/

Yep, pleased with that.

If Guy Fawkes lived today he'd be a bloody national hero.