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Pretty incredible stuff I think.
After 4500 years we are still uncovering new secrets buried in what has to be the most intensively studied ancient monuments in the world. The chamber is 9 metres long.
Scientists detected the corridor through cosmic-ray muon radiography, before retrieving images of it by feeding a 6mm-thick endoscope from Japan through a tiny joint in the pyramid's stones.
https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/hidden-corridor-pyramid-giza-intl-scli-scn/index.html
This is the first time that light has touched these rocks in all that time, let alone anyone ever seeing them. The chamber might be to spread the load of the pyramid for structural integrity or it's to take the weight off a possible chamber below it.
It doesn't matter that there is probably nothing in this chamber, I find this story absolutely incredible.
The whole pyramid thing is fascinating.
Breakout room for the aliens that built it innit 🤷🏼♂️ 😂
In all seriousness, as said already, the whole thing is fascinating.
6mm-thick endoscope from Japan
thats a long endoscope
Best escape room puzzle,evvvaaa.
Although I wonder why they've only now tried to see what's in there given that they've known of its existence since 2016.
endoscopes travel very slowly?
endoscopes travel very slowly?
Especially from all the way from Japan...
Anyone who's played Tomb Raider could have told them to look out for secret passages, surely?
Although I wonder why they’ve only now tried to see what’s in there given that they’ve known of its existence since 2016.
I'd hardly be in a rush to poke about in an ancient structure, it's not like it's going anywhere or they were holding up a building project is it. Some things are worth deliberating over before you proceed....
Hope the endoscope hasn't triggered 'the curse' 😉
Have a look at Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix - the bloke goes around looking at several different pyramid like structures all of the world. Really interesting and kind of incredible how lots of cultures have similar myths/legends that seem to stem from actual events
Although I wonder why they’ve only now tried to see what’s in there given that they’ve known of its existence since 2016.
I think with every archeological act you in effect destroy the archaeology that future archeologists could have done with better technologies and better understanding. So theres no rush unless a site is about to be destoryed. If some site of archeological wonder is about to be destroyed to build a motorway or a skyscraper then you need to dig it up and explore it right away. If not under threat then theres ultimately more to be learned in future by leaving it be.
Most of Egypts archaeology was done in the manor of a treasure hunt when sparkly stuff rather than knowledge was to goal. Imagine the scientific data that can be gleaned from a mummy now. Not that long ago we would grind mummies up and eat them or turn them into paint. You've probably looked at a painting in a museum that is made with ground up Egyptian corpses, In fact 'Mummy Brown' was still being sold in the UK into the 1960s. Your ancestors in the 1800s might have taken ground up mummy as a health supplement. Over 3000 mummies are thought to have just been eaten by europeans.
So there'll be people in the not too far distant future thinking "what were they thinking poking an endoscope in there they ruined all that vital data"
Over 3000 mummies are thought to have just been eaten by europeans.
Allegedly some lexicologists claim that this the true origin of the "yummy mummy".
Nothing new here, Blake & Mortimer found it decades ago....
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That is rather fascinating...
the bloke goes around
….making shit up that doesn’t stand up to the slightest scrutiny. The programme is fun foshure, but it ain’t based in reality
What is cosmic-ray muon radiography? It sounds made up, so I'm assuming it is going to be something like x-ray and thermo imagery type stuff...
I’d hardly be in a rush to poke about in an ancient structure, it’s not like it’s going anywhere or they were holding up a building project is it. Some things are worth deliberating over before you proceed….
Indiana Jones must have missed that part of the curriculum when he was at school...
I’ve not been consulted personally on this project, knowing almost nothing about it, but if you go deep underground some cosmic rays get through. They have a bubble tank at the bottom of Boulby potash mine to do physics experiments with. If you took a detector like that into the known existing chambers in the pyramids and pointed it to the sky at all the angles, you might expect so much attenuation based on expected solid limestone, and if you found angles with more excitation, you could surmise at least a change in the solid structure, if not a hollow space.
Anyway I’m not sure we should be giving these ancient Egyptians publicity any more based on all the incest, the slavery, the aggressive invasions of Libya, Palestine and Nubia and their implied support for Brexit.
^^ There's a very brief explanation in the link I think. They are cosmic particles that poss right through the earth, impervious to stone. How they were harnessed I have no clue, sounds very interesting in itself.
the bloke goes around
….making shit up that doesn’t stand up to the slightest scrutiny. The programme is fun foshure, but it ain’t based in reality
is it this guy?
Anyway I’m not sure we should be giving these ancient Egyptians publicity any more based on all the incest, the slavery, the aggressive invasions of Libya, Palestine and Nubia and their implied support for Brexit.
I would have thought a total lack of non binary pronouns would be enough to excise them history...
Plus shouldn't someone be pulling the Sphinx down, chanting 'Slaves lives matter too'.
Cosmic-ray muons are them things that come out of the Ark in Raiders, and then melt that guy’s face.
What is cosmic-ray muon radiography? It sounds made up, so I’m assuming it is going to be something like x-ray and thermo imagery type stuff…
Remember the Young's slits experiments from GCSE Physics? Well it's a bit like that, except you need a particle that can pass through just about anything (a muon) as light, even very high energy radiation like X-Rays and Gamma-rays won't penetrate more than a few cm of stone, then you can observe how it scatters through the empty spaces in the 'solid' object you're looking at.
So while you can't just take a picture of muons, you can generate a pattern and infer from that what scattered them. A bit like if you shine a laser into a cloud of dust, the pattern on the other side isn't a projection of the dust particles (it's quite a diffuse smudge to the naked eye), but you can calculate their size and shape from the diffraction pattern.
Plus shouldn’t someone be pulling the Sphinx down, chanting ‘Slaves lives matter too’.
Fun fact, they weren't slaves. Ancient Egypt was a fairly developed society with abundant resources ruled by Pharoes that the population believed were actual gods. There was more than enough food and drink produced in the Nile valley to enable an entire class of religiously devoted people to be paid very well to build them.
Think of it as more analogous to British Monestaries, combined with a feudal system, and even more abundant resources.
Really adds value. Readily convertible into a home office or additional sleeping accomodation.
Really adds value. Readily convertible into a home office or additional sleeping accomodation.
You must be northern, in London that would be a full studio appartment.
Especially from all the way from Japan…
They’re a PITA to get them to go where you want over about 45cm, so from Japan would be tricky.
Fun fact, they weren’t slaves. Ancient Egypt was a fairly developed society with abundant resources ruled by Pharoes that the population believed were actual gods.
They probably didn't actually believe they were gods, any more than we believe that our monarch is divinely appointed. And if they did believe they were gods, would they have spent so much time robbing the tombs as soon as they were sealed, forcing their gods to hide their grave goods away. 😀
ok, so
Religiously devoted people's lives matter too....
They’re a PITA to get them to go where you want over about 45cm
Worst proctologist ever
And if they did believe they were gods, would they have spent so much time robbing the tombs as soon as they were sealed, forcing their gods to hide their grave goods
They should have taken a leaf out of the Viking burial set up. Float out on ship, containing body and all the glittery stuff. Set fire and it sinks to the bottom of the sea. Chances of recovering anything - Zero.
They should have taken a leaf out of the Viking burial set up. Float out on ship, containing body and all the glittery stuff. Set fire and it sinks to the bottom of the sea. Chances of recovering anything – Zero.
Fun fact, the Vikings invented SCUBA gear in 983 AD. 😀
….making shit up that doesn’t stand up to the slightest scrutiny. The programme is fun foshure, but it ain’t based in reality
Big budget Von Daniken...
Looks like the pyramid was diligent with the Moviprep. Clean as a whistle in there.
I personally think it's the corridor to the cludgie.
Is it a corridor or just a structural thing? Wouldn’t a corridor lead somewhere other than a wall?
It may look like an empty chamber but when you press on the third slab along to produce the hyroglyphic covered turntable and rotate that......
If you read around a bit on the Great Pyramid, it's probably a specially-positioned chamber to tune the electromagnetic resonant frequency of the energy waves it was pumping into the Earth. Or something.
That bit was built on a friday and they couldn't be arsed to haul another two hundred ton block to fill the gap "Just slap another block over the top and no one will ever know"....for a few milenia.
Or, the pyramids are full of holes like that to make them lighter!
They are cosmic particles that pass right through the earth, impervious to stone.
Similar to neutrinos, no?
I think that was supposed to be a sort of loft, where all sorts of little-used stuff goes to die in a shroud of dust and cobwebs.
the bloke goes around looking at several different pyramid like structures all of the world. Really interesting and kind of incredible how lots of cultures have similar myths/legends that seem to stem from actual events
The reason you find pyramid structures in places like Egypt, Peru, Mexico, Sudan, Iraq, Rome and Scotland (and also Scotland) is because theyre all too big to be carried back to the British Museum.
I'm feeling thicker than normal... How does this void help carry the weight above it better, than than having the void properly integrated with more giant bricks?
It is the powerful columns of a temple which gives the temple its strength, but it is the emptiness inside which gives the temple its purpose
- old Chinese proverb.