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"In one of my sci-fi books, One follows a cat the find the ‘gaps’ that allow one (and cats) to travel between the parallel universes"

Pixel from "The Cat Who Could Walk Through Walls" Robert A Heinlein ?

"The title of the book refers to a cat by the name of Pixel, who has an inexplicable tendency to be wherever the narrator happens to be (see Schrödinger's cat). In one scene Pixel does, in fact, walk through a wall, and it is explained that Pixel is too young to know that such behavior is impossible"


 
Posted : 08/08/2019 3:37 pm
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Or the one from Pullman's His Dark Materials book?


 
Posted : 08/08/2019 4:46 pm
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Photos! Of Claude, at least. Livia's still keeping a very low profile.


 
Posted : 08/08/2019 6:21 pm
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Posted : 08/08/2019 6:24 pm
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Posted : 08/08/2019 6:25 pm
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Claude is a handsome chap, but he could probably do with a couple more Dreamies.

Cat tax paid in full.

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Posted : 08/08/2019 6:34 pm
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Where is the like button?


 
Posted : 08/08/2019 6:52 pm
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Looks like a small Cougar!


 
Posted : 08/08/2019 7:05 pm
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Stunning cats! Great to see pics..


 
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Good to see them settling in to their new home, without a drop of blood being shed getting them there. Claude is extremely handsome!


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 8:23 am
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I'm not normally a cat person that is one cool looking cat 🙂


 
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Looks like a small Cougar!

Where's his laptop??


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 11:00 am
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I've met Cougar, he really is that furry and has a strange cucumber phobia


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 11:05 am
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Claude has been for a check-up and injection this morning, so is now a bit suspicious of us. He's very healthy, including his weight, thank goodness, so we'll have to ration the Dreamies!

Livia is getting more sociable, so we'll attempt some photos of her this weekend.

And I'll soon be asking for advice on how to stop Claude meowing outside the bedroom door during the night . . .


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 11:30 am
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And I’ll soon be asking for advice on how to stop Claude meowing outside the bedroom door during the night . . .

2 doors between humans trying to sleep and cats trying to stop it. An auomatic feeder, like this : Petfun will also allow you to feed them a snack early in the morning so that they aren't trying to wake you due to hunger in the early hours.

If they are like Bengals, they may trash the feeder and make the biscuits spill all over the floor.

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how to stop Claude meowing outside the bedroom door during the night

a cat flap so he can meow at the moon and catch his own snacks


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 1:16 pm
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If you are going to have posh cats then they should sleep with you in your bed as our Burmese do in ours.


 
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And I’ll soon be asking for advice on how to stop Claude meowing outside the bedroom door during the night . . .

In our experience with a standard tabby, the best way to stop the meowing is to open the door.
She will occasionally appear in the middle of the night, meow a couple of times and demand fuss though.


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 3:32 pm
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Here's a photo of Livia, although it doesn't do justice to her beautiful green eyes.

She's just been for her check-up, and the vet reckons she's very stressed, and has lost weight. So extra Dreamies for Livia, and another check-up in a couple of weeks.


 
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She's planning your demise.......


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 3:55 pm
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"She’s planning your demise……."
Probably in revenge for having a thermometer stuck up her bum . . .


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 4:00 pm
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If she's a highly strung cat, moving house is pretty high up there in the trauma stakes, but she'll settle down soon enough...


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 6:51 pm
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how to stop Claude meowing outside the bedroom door during the night

Leave the door open


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 7:00 pm
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Lovely cats, similar eye colouring to our two Ragdolls - the white and grey male is blue, and the grey female is green.

If we shut our bedroom door, the raggies will either scratch the carpet, or the male will tap on the door. They stop if you ignore them, but come back around 5am... hungry. Being only just 1 years old, they still charge round like idiots !

The catit 'kerplunk' type feeder is a great item our cats love. You put dry food in the top, then they have to either fish it out, or knock it down three levels before they can eat. They love it.


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 7:04 pm
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Leave the door open as they are older, they should just pop in for a look round, or even sit on the bed - just helps familiarisation.


 
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We lock ours downstairs as they can't come into the bedroom without waking us up and insisting we make a fuss of them. They jump up and miow at full volume to announce their arrival and if you don't instantly stroke them they just find a hand / head and start nudging it until they get acknowledged. Really cute, but not at all conducive to a good nights sleep...


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 7:11 pm
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Simba (white) and Luna (grey). Simba is about 2" taller
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Posted : 09/08/2019 7:22 pm
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That's a lovely photo, Fossy - they're beautiful. And you've really captured the eyes colours.

And lots of other pictures of gorgeous cats over the last couple of days - thank you, everyone!


 
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And another thing. How come that a hissing slashing fur ball of death when I try and put it in a cage is transformed into a big softy purring relaxed cat when a vet gets hold of it.
Our vet tests the rear leg articulation, eyes, teeth usually removing a bit of plaque off the back molars with his thumb nail and then sticks a thermometer up its bum all without injury.
They might make a small complaining mew but otherwise they appear to surrender to the vet. Just get it over with and I will take it out on the person who brought me here later.
Should have chosen fur-ball and bile coloured carpets.
Here is Mr Biggins.
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Posted : 09/08/2019 7:46 pm
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I just went upstairs with the phone and took a pic. Simba's eyes aren't as 'blue' as our previous ragdoll that we lost at 1 years old (run over). These don't go out (they are, however his younger full siblings).

Mtoto was more ragdoll (tip upside down and cuddles) but he was a lunatic. These two are crazy together, but not into cuddles. At least Leo the ginger ninja rescue cat loves cuddles (we say be more Leo to the ragdolls).


 
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This is Minerva, who accepts that we feed her when the real hosts are away.
She occasionally takes on announcement tasks.


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 8:16 pm
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FFS!!!!!!!!!


 
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Blooming nightmare attaching photos.... don't worry...

I love dogs and cats, but as we are out loads (work), cats it is... 4 of the buggers are easier than my sister's lab - they need to get it as a trail dog, but he failed the training classes despite how hard they tried... he's only one, and labs don't settle down for 2-3 years.... he's on the go all the time, and is a full grown dog. A 'big' 4kg cat is hard enough some times....

I'd still have a dog as well, but I'd need not to be out at work 11 hours a day.

Dogs and cats are cool...


 
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Cheers MATT!!!👍🏻


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 9:03 pm
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I think the vet must be a mountain biker . . . he said I should have N+1 litter trays 🙂


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 9:35 pm
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Yay! Cat pictures at last! Thank you.

We had Bombays (another Burmese relative) for many years. They liked to tell us our place. Loudly. And would retrieve those little toy mice if you threw them. Endless fun.


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 10:58 pm
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Re cats at Vets. It’s just cats are pretty clever and realise that letting it happen means you get out and home quicker. Just never ask them how they felt about it. They would rather blank that out.

N+1 transcends many disciplines. Try some horse owners and they will use that description. Makes bikes look bloody cheap.


 
Posted : 09/08/2019 11:16 pm
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Took the other two cats for their vaccinations a couple of weeks ago. Leo, the ginger ninja had to have all his teeth out when we got him (cat flu causing gingivitis) and he's been fine since, so we got an appointment with the main vet (who'd done all the work on Leo). She was so pleased to see him in the picture of health, and Leo even had a wander round the consulting room, and 'bumped' the vet's legs, so he wasn't a bit bothered, considering the visits he had. The other cat couldn't wait to get back in the box.


 
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Update needed. How have they settled in. Is Livia less stressed?
Regards Andrew


 
Posted : 14/08/2019 4:14 pm
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Awww, thanks for thinking of us! Claude has settled in really well, too well in fact, and is constantly pestering my husband for attention and cuddles.

In contrast, Livia still spends most of her time hiding under the stairs . . . but we think she's hiding from Claude, not from us. He seems to guard the food so she can't get at it. No wonder she lost weight while they were alone.

Obviously, we need to feed them separately, and we've ordered an outdoor pen, so Claude can go outside for a couple of hours. That will give Livia (and us) a bit of peace and quiet!


 
Posted : 14/08/2019 5:20 pm
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Yep, we have four cats and four micro-chip reader feeders, stops them stealing each other's food..
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I've not been on here for a while, so just seen this post.  I wondered why you were taking in cats that had been left in a house, but obviously as I read on, it all became clear.  They look lovely, and pleased to hear they are settling in now.


 
Posted : 14/08/2019 9:18 pm
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By shutting the bad boy in the study, we managed to tempt Livia out for a couple of photos.
So here's a link for Livia  . . . plus a few more of Claude


 
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Nice pics. We have had 4 pairs of litter mate Burmese who have got on well. Except the current ones. They had not been well socialised with humans and both were very timid at first.
We have always let the out when old enough. At which point the girl kicked the boy out. He is much bigger than her and can, if he wants to, put her in her place, but he can't be bothered. He comes in for food or if he needs the vet. Other than that he visits a range of neighbours. She is now a real lap cat always demanding attention.

Some cats don't mind others but some prefer cat solitude even if related.
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If things are bad between the two of them - they've potentially been competing for limited food ? then it might be worth separating them for a couple of weeks and re-introducing them. There's a fair bit of work to keep them apart, but it might give both time to settle down and tolerate each other's company in the future.


 
Posted : 16/08/2019 2:19 pm
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Thanks, Cranberry, that makes sense. It's interesting that Claude maintained his weight, while Livia lost 10% over a month.

Last night, after he'd eaten, we shut Claude in a room, and Livia came out to explore and get to know us (purring, head bumps, tummy tickles, the works). Once she'd eaten, we let Claude out, and we were pleased to observe she was far more confident. She even hissed at Claude when he jumped over her on the stairs.

Even more progress today, as they are both curled up under the spare bed. Not close, but definitely not avoiding each other.


 
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Tumnmy rubs is pretty much where any human would want to be - that shows that she is really ready to trust you as it means a cat allowing you access to all the most vulnerable parts of her body - all her internal organs.

My boy has always been dominant, always first for anything, pushing his sister out of the way, she is definitely 2nd in the hierarchy. She accepts this.

One thing I did early on was to ensure that there was a clear time when she came first, so every morning she'd get picked up and cuddled first. First to be stroked would work well if Livia isn't one / ready to be picked up and cuddled.

Now they timeshare me - in the evening she'll jump up, pad, have a cuddle, then get off so that he can do the same, her spot ( politely defended ) is between my feet, he gets the lap.

Hopefully you'll get to the stage where they are both happy with each other and can peacefully share you soon.

Edit - whilst he (brown ) is the boss, he often plays the role of prey for her, not sure if he doesn't sometimes regret it...


 
Posted : 16/08/2019 9:17 pm
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Update
Livia has been back to the vets today, and received "a clean bill of health". She's managed to regain most of the weight lost (while Claude was eating all the food).

Latest photos


 
Posted : 30/08/2019 5:11 pm
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Livia


 
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Claude


 
Posted : 30/08/2019 5:21 pm
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Beauties.


 
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Oh my, they're stunning cats alright. Looks as though you've done an amazing job!


 
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Update
Livia has been back to the vets today, and received “a clean bill of health”. She’s managed to regain most of the weight lost (while Claude was eating all the food).

Hooray!! Well done Esme, grand job!
My Mrs, (yes, that one) has decided she wants a Birman ( I still want another Red Fox Lab)
Have you seen the price of Birmans???


 
Posted : 30/08/2019 9:16 pm
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Credit where it's due . . . it's mainly Mr E who's tamed them. He seems to be a natural Cat Whisperer. And Claude still treats him like an Adventure Playground.

ESG - you'll end up with a cat and a dog, won't you?


 
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Lovely looking cats and well done on rescuing them!


 
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They are beautiful!


 
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They are beautiful!

Is that a William Morris print sofa?


 
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Haha - "Golden Lily" by John Henry Dearle, Morris's assistant
Curtains, not sofa, made by my own fair hand


 
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They are beautiful looking cats, I especially like Claude. I life with a Cat Whisperer too....his name is Steve and the way Sparky always goes to him (even when I'm stood with her food in my hand) is really annoying.

I miss Jester, he preferred me to Steve !


 
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Is Sparky okay on her own, or does she miss Jester too?  Are you planning to get another one?

Apparently no-one wants black kittens these days - they don't look so good in photos!


 
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Not a cat person ,but this thread deserves a like button.
Lovely looking kittys.


 
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Claude is a handsome chap indeed.


 
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I wasn't a cat person either . . .


 
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😀


 
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Beautiful cats! There would be a scrap for the Dreamiest with the hedgehogs in my garden, though. 😁


 
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Yeah, lovely thread.

Lovely to hear you've put some effort into taking on these two wonderful looking cats (I'm not a cat person, at all)

But with the genuine advice, and your obvious skills and love, its a fantastic story from beginning.... and towards a long loving future.

(we should have a like button in here, it's 2019.. not 2009)

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Happy Birthday, Claude - 4 today!


 
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More photos on Flickr - as you can tell, they've finally got us well trained!


 
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Just read this thread from the start - lovely stuff☺️
Some great photos there, the one of the cat in the paper bag is super


 
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Cats are like that. Seek them out and they dont want anything to do with you but ignore them and they become interested.
I was going to suggest lie on your back in the middle of the floor and the cat will come over, sit on your chest and claim you as its latest lucky find.


 
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