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I done a booboo!
Putting up metal bed (in a bit of a hurry cos I wanted to get out for a bike ride) and the head fell over whilst I only had one screw connecting the bar to the head pulling out an M6 pop rivet from the leg and making a bit of mess of the hole. So I need a solution to get an M6 or M8 panhead or similar into the frame. Not sure if the leg will take an M8 pop rivet or where I'd get a gun and some rivets at short notice.
Unless I sort this this could be my last day on earth so all advice appreciated!
Not really sure what you are asking but
Not sure if the leg will take an M8 pop rivet or where I’d get a gun and some rivets at short notice.
Screwfix, toolstation and bandq do them.
Flatten out the mess in the metal using a hammer with another hammer at the back to act as an anvil if that makes sense. Use a fresh rivet through the same holes and use a backing washer to reinforce the repair.
Difficult to advise without a picture of your booboo.
As above, difficult without pics.
If it's hidden from view, bolt, nut and a couple of washers will be better than trying to redo the rivet.
Can't it's pulled out from the leg (a steel tube) so cant get anything on the back
Does this help dave?
A Boo Boo earlier.
OP head up to your nearest DIY super store,sure they will have something (maybe a large self tapper).
to explain it better (can't do pics am at work now)...
the head is joined to the bar by 2*M6 screws these screws go into pop rivets into the leg of the head through a plate at the end of the bar, I had one screw in and reached for the second when the head fell flat pulling the pop rivet out of the leg leaving a big nasty hole.
Imagine, if you will, sticking a machine screw in your water bottle boss and ripping the ****er out
Could you make one of those plasterboard expander bolt type things work ?
You are making it sound more like a rivnut than a pop rivet
rivnut it is.
An expanding bolt should see you right. Something like this;
https://www.diy.com/departments/diall-carbon-steel-shield-anchor-pack-of-4/1517972_BQ.prd
Although you may want to get one shorter that 10cm, but you get the idea...
Nope, won't work as expands from the back of the nut, I'm afraid
Still struggling to picture this!
Can you shove a bit of wooden broom handle or something in the tube, and self taper into that?
The bodge is Drill it through to other side of the tube. Use a spacer between front face and back face so you don't crush as you tighten it then fit a longer bolt and nut.
Or a more pro repair ....
Clean it up tap all the edges back down as much as possible and fit a new riv nut or better still cross Riv nut (same thing but spreads over bigger surface area) with a wide washer on the front to spread surface area.
Or the propper repair.
Tap area back to shape , weld up the area to repair the torn metal , grind to shape and pretty drill out hole and fit the correct sized riv nut
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Wukfit - Could be the answer, not sure if the end of the tube is open though (foot of the bed head), also the one I ripped out is the top one of two so would need to manoeuvre the plug around that....possibilities....
Trail rat
needs to be invisible, quick and within the limited bounds of my competence....
Cable ties, then hide them with a bedside table
"needs to be invisible, quick and within the limited bounds of my competence…."
Ducktape the same colour as the bed?
Epoxy the old riv nut back in in that case...
“needs to be invisible, quick and within the limited bounds of my competence….”
shut the door and take the handle off so nobody can get in. Its a coin toss really as which side of the door its best to be on when you do this.
OK, Here's the plan, take an M10 penny washer, beat it roughly to the curve of the post, apply an M6 flange nut using metal glue stuff, manipulate into place with an as yet to be fully devised wire pokey-reachy device via the foot of the tube, adhere in position with metal glue, reassemble bed, get the screw in, detach reachy-pokey device, tighten but not too much. Hope and pray the missus remains oblivious.
I slept in a bed for a year with a mole-grip holding it together after a similar incident.
take an M10 penny washer, beat it roughly to the curve of the post, apply an M6 flange nut using metal glue stuff, manipulate into place with an as yet to be fully devised wire pokey-reachy device via the foot of the tube, adhere in position with metal glue, reassemble
I did about 10000 miles in an old car after something in the cooling system came loose with almost exactly this repair. Think it was one of the bolts holding the radiator to the subframe. Except i used a rivnut in the washer, then glued the whole thing into the subframe using a pokey thing from the other side.
I suspect the galloping rust may have killed it by now. I may have actually used one of the rusty holes to stick my pokey thing through (a finger i suspect.) Haven't seen the car since the mid-1980s........
Is there one of these close-by?
Go back to the shop, tell them it was like that when you unpacked it. (-:
I've never heard of rivnuts before, every day's a school day. According to the Interwebs you can get ones which deform at the back as you tighten the bolt, securing it in place. Sounds like a bigger one of those might be a solution?
Hope and pray the missus remains oblivious.
If she does find out, you're never getting it again.
If she doesn't find out; you still won't be getting it because you'll be too scared of catastrophic bed failure.
Either way, you've achieved a Schroedinger like state of being simultaneously *ed and not *ed at the same time.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!