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Been looking to get out of teaching for a few years now but no luck. Searching on the typical job sites has been a very long process simply because I don't know what job to look for. I do know what I don't want, but there doesn't appear to be an option to search for all jobs and filter out specific key words. Unless anyone knows how?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 11:38 am
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We seem to have a few ex teachers in the civil service. Still underfunded public sector but the grass be a subtle bit greener maybe.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:05 pm
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Find the really annoying one and give them the slap they deserve. That should get you out of teaching pretty quickly and you'll be seen as a hero by equally frustrated colleagues


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:07 pm
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Go see the careers advisor?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:08 pm
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DfE worth a look if you live near enough one of their offices.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:13 pm
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Sister in law this week emigrated to Prague. Bailed out of SEN teaching in the UK due to lack of funding etc. Working for a private school, well supported/paid, visa/paperwork completed hassle free.
Has done some online SEN tutoring for an American (?) company at hours that suited her.

She has also did TEFL work overseas in Russia and Spain previously.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:13 pm
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Go see the careers advisor?

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Posted : 22/08/2023 12:14 pm
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The problem with careers advisers is the first thing they asked me was "What job do you want to do?"

I don't know, but I do know what I don't want to do.

Though I'd like a job in the cycling industry (not a delivery rider) but theres none round here.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:20 pm
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Have you tried walking through the door of some one like Reed and asking for advice? Or looking for large local employers you like the look of and contacting HR for a chat?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:22 pm
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'a few years'?!? Try harder!! 😉 Avoid what you don't want, make a list and a plan for what you do want. Work towards it. Very straightforward.

@sniff - very good!


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:23 pm
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Avoid what you don’t want, make a list and a plan for what you do want.

It's really not straightforward at all. I only know what jobs I don't want. I'm not career driven in the slightest. When people ask "What do you do?" I list all the things I do for fun and don't even think about what I do for work. The hours I'm at work are nothing. Empty. Erased from memory. It's work, not fun. I only do it to pay bills.

I kinda like the idea of working for a local forest or similar but don'y know what job that would be.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:31 pm
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Posted : 22/08/2023 12:38 pm
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What's your rough location and what do you teach? Do you want to stay working in a similar subject or get away from it completely?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:39 pm
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Thanks. I'll have a look now.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:39 pm
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It's tough, it's particularly if you want to keep any parity of pay.

Mrs Lunge left teaching after 10 years and really struggled to find the next thing. On paper she had loads of transferable skills but in the real world they counted for nothing, external employers just didn't see how she'd use them away from the classroom.

She ended up taking a 70% pay cut and started as a trainee in a role in the NHS. She loves it, but we were lucky we could deal with the pay cut, and she was happy with the lack of responsibility.

She found the role with a lot of time spent searching and trying to work out what she wanted and what she didn't. All she started with was something that would provide training.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:43 pm
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What’s your rough location and what do you teach? Do you want to stay working in a similar subject or get away from it completely?

Near Tenterden, Kent. Teach Creative Digital Arts (Animation, Digital imagery, Photo editing etc. Not graphic design or web design). Can't really prove my experience outside of teaching it so difficult to apply. Have done wedding photography before but hated it.

On paper she had loads of transferable skills but in the real world they counted for nothing, external employers just didn’t see how she’d use them away from the classroom.

That's exactly what I'm experiencing.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:44 pm
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Ive met 2 ex teachers in my field (engineering). Both women

The first one became a Technical Assistant - which was computery type stuff for the dept engineers, helping document control, etc

The second one went into CAD draughting,  now she is an Information Manager (Technical) at a well known brewery.

Both leveraged their computer skills for the positions. Given the skillset you have, id be leveraging your computer awareness/capabilities.

But as someone has asked, whats your age and can you restart from the bottom of new profession salary bracket?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 12:54 pm
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What’s your rough location and what do you teach? Do you want to stay working in a similar subject or get away from it completely?
Near Tenterden, Kent. Teach Creative Digital Arts (Animation, Digital imagery, Photo editing etc. Not graphic design or web design). Can’t really prove my experience outside of teaching it so difficult to apply. Have done wedding photography before but hated it.

I presume your English / report writing is fairly good too, also got good interpersonal skills and able to convey a good message...? - then may I introduce you to the idea of corporate comms. Most large organisations will have an internal/external comms teams to publish their internal magazine / website content / communicate good news stories / help with their internal change management / photo ops for management & politicians

If I were you I'd pick a company that broadly aligns with your socio/political views as selling "good news stories" for a sweatshop animal testing company might be a fairly awful existence.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:02 pm
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the grass be a subtle bit greener maybe.

This. Isn't this the case with most jobs? After redundancy from an IT job, I considered teaching... luckily they only wanted degree level education (experience counts for nothing, maaan) and I'm back in (a pretty cushy) IT. But it's still so unrewarding!

The ex-mrsdesperate left a pretty well paid teaching job at a college and has struggled to settle into anything else. PA jobs mostly. Badly paid and over-worked. And she has academic qualifications up to the eyeballs.

Not knowing what you want to do is the best route to an unsatisfactory career life IME. (See the Regrets thread, where I couldn't type anything for fear of slitting my wrists)


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:12 pm
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I presume your English / report writing is fairly good too, also got good interpersonal skills

You'd think that but not really. It's one reason why I want out of a classroom environment.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:14 pm
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I presume your English / report writing is fairly good too, also got good interpersonal skills
You’d think that but not really. It’s one reason why I want out of a classroom environment.

Ok, flipping that around - your experience would likely get you an interview in a large org and corporate comms (or internal training for that matter) and a year working with them would give you good visibility of all the different functions they do and may uncover something that interests you.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:17 pm
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Instead of asking about what you would like to do or what you want to do, to match you to a new career its probably best focusing on what transferable skills teaching has given you to put on your CV..

So, what are you good at in a work capacity?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:21 pm
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where are you based? fancy a change? we offer fully funded training over the 3 years it takes to be qualified in our field. (Occupational Hygiene) its basically the health bit of health and safety, lots of travelling around the country and problem solving with elements of training and management stuff as well

In fact in anyone from a STEM, or Health and Safety background fancies a change drop me line as we are growing like mad, decent wages, OT, company vehicle, hybrid working etc...


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:24 pm
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Instead of asking about what you would like to do or what you want to do, to match you to a new career its probably best focusing on what transferable skills teaching has given you to put on your CV..

So, what are you good at in a work capacity?

Skills based CV/Job search.

Moved a mate from joinery/general building contractor to robotic handling systems warranty tech doing that.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:34 pm
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So, what are you good at in a work capacity?

Organised

Planning

Feedback

Problem Solving

Managing things

I'm pretty good at predicting what will go wrong with something before anyone else. Not in a negative way.

Im not at all interested in travelling around. I don't mind re training as long as it pays while training.

Skills based CV/Job search.

Do you know any websites where I can search like that?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:37 pm
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. The hours I’m at work are nothing. Empty. Erased from memory. It’s work, not fun. I only do it to pay bills.

Dont put this on your cv.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:39 pm
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Move into HE ?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:40 pm
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Look on your local council site. Look for a job on the railways.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:42 pm
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Project management then?


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:42 pm
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Dont put this on your cv.

Obviously.

Move into HE ?

Want out of teaching


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:44 pm
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Look on your local council site. Look for a job on the railways.

Thanks, I'll take a look. Theres a steam train locally that might be interesting.

Project management then?

I'd be up for that but I can't prove I have any experience other than from teaching which no one takes seriously.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:46 pm
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Ok, flipping that around – your experience would likely get you an interview in a large org and corporate comms

Without sounding negative, what makes you think that?
There are shed loads grads with marketing and comms degrees, and people who've already done a same or similar role. I'm not sure a teacher would even get a sniff of an interview unless they could demonstrate where they've done it before, perhaps in a voluntary role.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 1:47 pm
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There are shed loads grads with marketing and comms degrees

Most of whom are probably barely literate...


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 2:01 pm
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Do you know any websites where I can search like that?

We did it the old fashioned way, spread sheets, google and reading.

TBH, the biggest struggle was getting him not to downplay stuff.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 2:14 pm
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What do you teach and what're your current qualifications - also what do you enjoy doing?  I know teachers who've taught A-level grade move into engineering without difficulty.  They're much happier.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 2:19 pm
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What do you teach and what’re your current qualifications – also what do you enjoy doing?

Teach Creative Digital Arts (Animation, Digital imagery, Photo editing etc. Not graphic design or web design)

I enjoy riding my bike, bike related stuff, running, cameras.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 2:26 pm
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In fact in anyone from a STEM, or Health and Safety background fancies a change drop me line as we are growing like mad, decent wages, OT, company vehicle, hybrid working etc…

Argh around 10 years too late for me!


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 2:35 pm
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Join my crew.

We teach teachers to get outdoors.

Don't expect same salary.

Do expect great job satisfaction, great team, lovely organisation and a real sense of doing something great.

https://ltl.org.uk/our-team/


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 5:47 pm
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I left teaching for 3 years to train people in the motor industry.

My company lost the contract I was working on.

I spent a year trying to find another training job that paid as much as teaching and....

Ended up back in teaching, but at a school that suited me better.

A mate has left teaching in the UK to teach at a British council school in America. Sounds sweet.

Another mate left and recruits teachers to teaching.

Another mate left and started his own landscaping firm.

An acquaintance left and started as an accountant.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 6:10 pm
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Teach Creative Digital Arts (Animation, Digital imagery, Photo editing etc. Not graphic design or web design)

You might try planning consultancies doing visual impact assessments, producing visual impact diagrams, etc. It's not outdoors but it does use your existing skill set in a different environment. Whether pay is comparable will depend on how long you've been in teaching.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 6:25 pm
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If its more local I'd be happy to take a pay cut. Recently moved so my current job is an hour drive each way. 3 days a week so not too bad.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 6:39 pm
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coding bootcamp to be a frontend dev/full stack dev?

I know someone that came out of teaching to do a 3 month bootcamp course. You can earn around 40-45k as a junior. More years undo your belt and can be 50k +


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 6:44 pm
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Not interested in earning loads. Just want a quiet low stress job for a few days a week.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 7:07 pm
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I quit teaching.

<p style="text-align: left;">After a few years (another story) I’ve found myself working with adults with learning disabilities. The pay is rubbish - though there are promotions I’ve chosen not to pursue - but I love the job. You know when you start teaching and you believe that you’ll be doing something worthwhile each day, that you’ll go home thinking that you’ve made the world a little better? Well it’s like that.</p>
My organisation has jobs for bakers, gardeners, tool repairers, theatre workers, arts and craft practitioners, and more. There will be somewhere similar local to you.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 8:15 pm
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I work on the railway in structures examination.
There's a shortage of examiners nationwide. Most companies take on trainees and train them up on the job. Mix of site work and time at home report writing.
A lot of the time it's going out and saying the bridge/culvert/mast/tunnel/wall is in the same condition as it was xx years ago. When you do find something critical and call it in then it gets fixed that's quite rewarding, knowing that you're keeping train loads of people safe.
You also get to get up close with a whole load of old structures and I enjoy learning their past.

It does involve work around the country, nights and weekends.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 8:47 pm
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Don't want a job that involves travelling round the country.


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 10:18 pm
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Having seen the recent news where exam results are back to being too low after being too high and all the crap surrounding it I couldnt be happier I'm not teaching anymore. Have a look on Civil Service Jobs, often they're expecting you to give examples of competancies that teaching provides you with plenty of examples of. E.g. Changes that made a difference, influencing others, etc. Not having my working day divided up rigidly into 90 minute chunks and never speaking to an adult all day are things of the past.

Flexible hours, hybrid working, a computer that works, it's another world. Having just been audited by GIAA even the "oftsed" is better! 🤣


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 10:35 pm
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<p style="text-align: left;">Bear in mind that when people say they want a complete change, most want something pretty much the same but with less of the crap and more of the bits that made it attractive to them in the first place.</p>


 
Posted : 22/08/2023 11:52 pm
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Nope. Want a complete change.


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 6:10 am
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probably best focusing on what transferable skills teaching has given you to put on your CV..

As others have said, although teaching can give some amazing transferrable skills they're too generic to make you stand out from all the others with quals/relevant experience in other industries.

To the OP. Rather than looking for a new job to jump right into you might need to pick a field and re-train or get some experience. Unless of course, you're happy doing something less skilled.


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 7:04 am
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Digital marketing?


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 8:22 am
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Teaching for 30 years here and felt similar a couple of years ago to a school I had given nearly 20 years of my life to.

Did a polite Reginald Perrin to a very local school and never looked back. Change the pot you are in little frog, all schools are pots, just very different pots and some have warm sun and lily pads and others pike.

Teaching also has the most antiquated way of changing jobs. You"Dear Boss I have an interview next week, so I'll be off that day" - Boss "Thank you for being thoughtful with the advance notice, I wish you the very best of luck, if I can help in anyway, let me know" - You "Yes, help setting my cover work would be great, bye".


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 8:29 am
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Unless of course, you’re happy doing something less skilled.

I'm happy to re train as long as it pays. I'm not interested in climbing the ranks or anything like that. Just want less stress and less responsibility so I have more time to live. Happy to do a 'boring' job. All jobs to me are boring anyway so makes no difference.


 
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They're all 5 days a week. Looking for 3 days a week.


 
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Posted : 23/08/2023 11:00 am
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It shouldn't be that hard to find a part time job that doesn't involve driving for hours.


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 12:12 pm
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There's 1000's of part time jobs out there. Part-time careers, with minimum stress and a decent wage are a different matter.

Can't you move to a closer school? Even 3 days a week - an hour commute each way would do my head in.


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 12:20 pm
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Looked at local colleges but there's nothing suitable. Also, still want out of teaching.


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 12:31 pm
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Possibly seems like you maybe trolling.  But taking in good faith - have a read of what colour is your parachute.  Might help you decide what you want to do next.  No one on here will be able to give you the right answer


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 12:37 pm
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Not interested in earning loads. Just want a quiet low stress job for a few days a week.

If that's your criteria go and stack shelves in Tesco or something similar.


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 12:41 pm
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Ot trolling. Genuinely struggling to find a hob that is part time, not teaching, local ish.

It's more frustration as every job site I've used has awful filters that keep defaulting to stuff I'm not suited to. That's why I asked if there was a site where you can search for all, then filter out what you don't want.


 
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I'm working with Sustrans for a couple of days - they seem a great bunch of people and some really positive projects around cycling and travel. 👍


 
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Posted : 23/08/2023 12:49 pm
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read those books and come back and tell us what you think


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 12:52 pm
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That’s why I asked if there was a site where you can search for all, then filter out what you don’t want.

Recruitment agencies - yes some see them as worse than estate agents - but good ones can match your skills to jobs. But my wife has got several good jobs through them and she's getting jobs pushed her way on a weekly basis.

Have a word with a few and see if you get on with them.


 
Posted : 23/08/2023 1:07 pm

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