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Kenobi out on Disney+, slow start, ep 2 was a bit better.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 7:20 pm
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I saw nothing worng with ep1 - quite enjoying ep2 now 🤗🤗

Especially the cenobites and Catwoman 🙂


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 8:09 pm
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I also liked one a nice simple catch up just started EP2 now but Mrs has come home so stopped it for now.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 8:31 pm
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Just watched episodes 1 and 2. By the end of no.2 I was thinking that this was The Mandalorian rerun, substituting Baby Yoda for a 10 year old girl.


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 8:51 pm
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I enjoyed both episodes, was wondering where the thread was. Only stumbled across this as I like looking at closed threads to see why it got closed. That one didn't give any clues to its content either....


 
Posted : 27/05/2022 10:54 pm
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All good so far, nice to have somewhere different than the sands of tattoine too...

Ep1 was a nice set up, ep2 starts to get going!

A couple of irks though, how can 4 different grown adults not catch a 10 year old girl!


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 12:08 am
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A couple of irks though, how can 4 different grown adults not catch a 10 year old girl!

Easy cop-out explanation: the force, innit.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 12:14 am
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A couple of irks though, how can 4 different grown adults not catch a 10 year old girl!

Apart from it being part of the plot? She ran under low branches and slid under bushes.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 6:26 am
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Yeah that scene was a bit rubbish, but those are ones you just have to turn your brain off for.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 6:52 am
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They were foiled by some sticks, much as the inquisitors were foiled in Ep. 1 by those curtains falling down. But good to see Flea reprising his character from Point Break and Back to the Future 3.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:00 am
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I thought EP1 was very good, really captured his mood, really showed what he had become..not seen 2 yet!


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:13 am
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good to see Flea reprising his character from Point Break

Wrong Chilli Pepper


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:31 am
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Pretty sure Flea and Kiedis are in that point break scene? Edit: I just rewatched it and I guess not!


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:48 am
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Watched both last night. Enjoying it so far - the pacing feels so much better than Mandolorian and Bobo Fett


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:52 am
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Pretty poor so far - Apart from Ewan McGregor this suffers from awful acting and dialogue, particularly the Third Sister.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:56 am
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I liked his disguise in episode two. Dressing exactly like a Jedi. The inquisitor lady seems to have dialogue and the characteristics of Anakin from the prequels. Basically an angry teenager and I bet she hates sand too.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:57 am
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Not bad, the chase/fight scene in ep2 was a bit crap, the old let's stop shooting so they can have a heartfelt moment, Obi gets downstairs in 2.3 seconds and number 3 is only a few rooftops away but is still busting some serious parkour a few scenes later. And number 3 is a bit American isn't she? Accent really grates for me.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 8:30 am
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Thank you mods for changing the title, I was beginning to fear it was too subtle.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 9:18 am
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Watched it with the Mrs and we found ourselves calling out all the films it, ahem, borrowed from. So far we've had Batman, Blade Runner, 5th Element and John Wick. Still enjoyed it though, due to being a hopeless fanboi. I know people love to pick plot holes in anything Star Wars, but it must be clear after the last 40 years, if you can't suspend disbelief, the franchise is probably not for you.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 9:53 am
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Like it do far. As above though, when folk are looking for jedi, don't dress like a Jedi. And don't constantly wear your hood up when no one else is!


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 10:09 am
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His sabre looks like a victorian candle stick.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 10:37 am
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Princess Leia is intensely annoying. Here I was hoping for something a bit more grown up than the films and instead we get The Goonies.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 10:57 am
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I love the hate, it makes me grow strong.
I loved both episodes, great TV.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:00 am
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The toy plane was the best bit.
Already looking forward to seing how Luke ends up with it.
I have the Lego version of it.
I find the sister really annoying but the inquisitors i thought matched how they are in Rebels nicely.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:05 am
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Hopefully the kid will be rescued by episode three and we can crack on. No real child can compete with baby Yoda. I’m not getting how inquisitor the magic number knew to kidnap baby Leia. No connection other than when they parcelled them off at the end of the third prequel film.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:10 am
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She says something about finding a connection between the Organas and Obi-Wan 'in the archives.'


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 11:19 am
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I'm a bit take it or leave it with Star Wars beyond the 3 original files, but I've enjoyed Obi Wan, looking forward to the next episode


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 1:02 pm
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Nice cameo at the start of Ep 2 from NZ’s greatest living actor.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 5:22 pm
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I am with nostrils, Ewan McG was doing his best but the rest looked like it was hoiked from a crappy Dr who episode.

Such that, having cut Ep1 short to see if Ep2 was any better, I ended up starting to watch Solo - which, I was surprised to find, is actually moderately entertaining(!!!). Though I am only half way through so I haven't yet found out how they explain Han Solo's change in eye colour !


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 6:17 pm
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Just watched it, was better than the Bob's Fett weirdness. I didn't think it was too shonky, except for Evil Kryten. Also there only seems to be about 5 or 6 habitable planets in this galaxy.

The young Leia looks far too young, but then I realised they must've cast her because she has the Carrie Fisher mannerisms when she talks.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 6:54 pm
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I ended up starting to watch Solo – which, I was surprised to find, is actually moderately entertaining(!!!).

I don’t get the dislike for it. It’s a solid old fashioned romp of a movie. Better than the three main entries in my opinion


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 6:58 pm
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Yes Leia did look too young. I also quite liked Solo, not Rogue One but way better than the last three piles of steaming bantha poodoo.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:06 pm
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Need to start watching this, have to be honest, i stopped watching the mandalorian at the first season, and didn't watch any of Boba Fett, there's just too many series and they all seem to love being space cowboys for some reason, i see something called Andor is out soon, a prequel to the prequel that was rogue one, they're going to get lost in the prequel world soon!

Obi Wan i'll watch though, Ewan McGregor and a decent budget, they have a lot of leeway as well with what they can and can't do.

Disney seem to be milking this and the marvel world just now, and the weird thing is, that both these franchises have massive worlds, but you'd think they were tiny with the formulaic stuff they're churning out.


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:17 pm
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A rat in the desert ?

My biggest problem with this is if the Gran Inquisitor died by her hands that takes away from Starwars Canon .... if you know


 
Posted : 28/05/2022 7:23 pm
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Once we get more Vader and possibly Maul it's going to really start. Hoping Old Ben gets a bit more Kenobi though as I think he's forgotten which button turns his light saber on.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 11:59 am
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At least Jar Jar Binks isn't in it.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 1:25 pm
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Watched the first 2,... has potential but mainly because of Mcgreggor I think.

Little Leia is really annoying, If I was Obi-wan, I'd have just left her to rot. hahaha.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 4:39 pm
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Nice cameo at the start of Ep 2 from NZ’s greatest living actor

It was, wasn't it? But not as Boba Fett, presumably?

Edit - my son's just pointed out the obvious.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 4:47 pm
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Pretty poor so far – Apart from Ewan McGregor this suffers from awful acting and dialogue, particularly the Third Sister.

This^^

Little Leia is really annoying, If I was Obi-wan, I’d have just left her to rot. hahaha.

And this^^
🙂

I was really looking forward to this show,so I hope things start to pull together a bit.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 5:37 pm
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Yeah the third sister has a realy dodgy pretence, the other inquisitors would surely just execute her if she's causing a problem, which she is.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 6:08 pm
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I've watched the first two episodes now, and i hope it improves, the whole third sister thing is depressing, did they not learn from the last trilogy with the whole Rey being better than everyone from the start, all this Reve does is scowl and growl, then turn into superwoman for any fights, the rest look pretty pointless.

Obi Wan appears to have been neutered in terms of his abilities, not sure why they've done this, Star Wars didn't show him as having forgotten the ways, he's a Jedi Master after the 3rd movie and meant to be waiting to train Luke, it's not as if any other Jedi has suddenly lost their ability to use the force, only Obi Wan, are they aiming it at some mental block because of Anakin?

The rest was just a bit of a disjointed, it really has to pick up a little, we all know that as a prequel Obi Wan can't really be in much danger, same with Leia, we know some liberties will be taken as there wasn't meant to be much movement from 'old ben', so it'll have to be done smartly, which i honestly can't see Disney doing.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 9:11 pm
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Well, it was a bit childish.

Like I felt as if I was watching a children's film foundation production at some points.

And the batman homage stuff was very cringey.

But I'll keep watching and see where it goes. If anything, the pace is a bit quick and they could do with slowing things down a touch.


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 9:57 pm
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Some of the acting was abysmal. The other Jedi on Tatooine, the two creatures chasing Leia, Flea.

The second episode felt quite claustrophobic. A new planet yet it all felt like it happened in a very confined area with the same sets repeated a lot.

Also, in A New Hope, Leia's message suggested she'd never met Obi Wan before. I'm fairly certain she'd be smart enough to work out the Jedi called Ben was Obi Wan.

Ewan was good. I like the way he's playing Obi Wan. Nice little nod to the clones/ Jango Fett.

I had hoped it was going to be quite dark and serious a la Rogue One but it's a bit childish/ Saturday matinee, which I guess is a nod to George's original vision.

It's mad that Marvel have done the TV shows so well and the Star Wars stuff continues to stutter


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 10:37 pm
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It’s mad that Marvel have done the TV shows so well and the Star Wars stuff continues to stutter

Have we been watching the same stuff? The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett were good (mods aside).


 
Posted : 29/05/2022 11:44 pm
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The Mandalorian was good.

Boba Fett had some absolutely awful moments


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 7:50 am
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Some folk take this nonsense WAY too seriously!


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 7:54 am
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Well, it was a bit childish.

er, have you seen Star Wars content before?

Obi Wan appears to have been neutered in terms of his abilities, not sure why they’ve done this

Really? You didn't pick up a few clues from the story?


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 8:03 am
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er, have you seen Star Wars content before?

Well I don't watch the cartoons, but most of the movie and TV output strikes a pretty good balance as family entertainment - that adults can enjoy without kids present, if they wish.

The Mandalorian did this brilliantly, like a 70s or 80s Saturday evening TV show, mixed with a Sergio Leone western.

It's OK if you enjoy the overtly childish stuff, but some of us don't.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 8:39 am
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Can't say I can see any difference in the between Mando and Obi Wan in terms of the age its aimed at. If anything the slow pace of the first episode with a lack of action sequences was aimed at a more mature audience. My 11 year old son liked it but did say he would prefer some light sabre fights.

The constant moaning from grown ups that Star Wars is not grown up enough, does make me chuckle.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 10:18 am
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The constant moaning from grown ups that Star Wars is not grown up enough, does make me chuckle.

It's not the themes or general vibe that make it child like, it's some genuinely slapstick moments. It felt Doctor Who-esque at times (which I hate)


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 10:31 am
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The constant moaning from grown ups that Star Wars is not grown up enough, does make me chuckle.

As I said, it's fine if you don't have such refined taste as some of us. Really.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 10:34 am
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As I said, it’s fine if you don’t have such refined taste as some of us. Really.

You see had you just left it at the first time it would have shown some maturity, clearly sutilty is not in you repetior


 
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I've watched Ep1, I thought it was fantasic. For me, it strikes a good balance between the wants of boring old men who treat the orignals as scripture and actually making a TV mini series for a broader audience.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 11:48 am
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You see had you just left it at the first time it would have shown some maturity, clearly sutilty is not in you repetior

Sorry, was that too childish for you?


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 2:23 pm
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Am i the only one who thinks the baddies look like Pinhead & co from Hellraiser?


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 4:20 pm
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Hahah yes!, but one looks like Raiden from mortal Kombat got jiggy with pinhead, and he is the offspring!!


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 4:30 pm
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Definitely more than a touch of an intergalactic Sajid Javid going on with the Grand Inquisitor.


 
Posted : 30/05/2022 6:59 pm
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it's all a bit pants really although Ewan and Leia make it amusing and waaaaaay better than the Mandalorian which was unwatchable


 
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I'm coming round to thinking that they might be better off making these as animation rather than live action. The Clone wars was really good once you got into it and the story and dialogue was better than these recent Disney versions for my money, it was pretty dark really. Not sure how the amination shows stack up cost wise against the live action but they don't seem to suffer from the hammy acting or naff chase scenes that keep cropping up. Looking at some of the Love death and robots animation shorts these were fantastic and could work really well on shows like this.


 
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the Mandalorian which was unwatchable

This is not the way.


 
Posted : 31/05/2022 8:47 am
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Just caught up. Enjoying it so far. Little Leia was a great idea. Not for the super serious “grown up” sci-fi fans perhaps. Lighten up.


 
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I'm liking it so far. Good tele but thats all it is, I wasn't expecting Citizen Kane or something.

'True' StarWars fans seem to hate everything these days. Odd.


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 12:42 pm
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‘True’ StarWars fans seem to hate everything these days. Odd.

On the contrary, I think some of us are just casual fans who think they've struck a few false notes with this one.

Personally I'd prefer if they were less attentive to the desires of serious fans, and used less stuff from the "expanded universe" or whatever they call it.


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 1:21 pm
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I love all the links to Rebels etc. And for a whole other generation, that is their Star Wars... not all the old people in 20th century movies.


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 1:30 pm
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Sigh

I won't link to his output, but if you want a full on melt down on Star Wars google a delightful character by the name of Nick Fuentes, he's an american right wing "provocateur" (shall we call him politely?) There's a 2 minute vid of him having a melt down about how feminist's have destroyed Star Wars (and particularly the male characters), This man's in his 30's I think and he sounds like nothing more than a 12 year old having a temper tantrum

It's an illuminating glimpse into the mindset.


 
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There’s a 2 minute vid of him having a melt down about how feminist’s have destroyed Star Wars (and particularly the male characters), This man’s in his 30’s I think and he sounds like nothing more than a 12 year old having a temper tantrum

It's the same on Marvel and DC Universes as well, i'm not that bothered about them trying to bring some equality in roles, or even Disney using it to branch out to try and gain market share, but i would say that Disney seem to be making a real hash of things over the last few years, from the last jedi which was just a terrible movie, to the new wave of Marvel movies, which seem to be pretty poor and a bit directionless.

Personally i just go and check other stuff, there's more out there than Star Wars and Marvel, but Disney have spent a fortune getting those franchises!


 
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Nobody seem Ep3 yet? Pretty epic return to good form.


 
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I'll watch it tonight, cheers Eddie.

Rebels etc. And for a whole other generation, that is their Star Wars

Really? Not so sure about that personally.


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 2:21 pm
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For teenagers I know, that’s the case. Chopper means more to them than the movie droids as well. Not everyone grew up in the 1980s. If they get the Ahsoka series right, it’ll be bigger than any of the movie spin offs with the under 20s.


 
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My nephews got into star wars through Rebels and the Clone Wars cartoons. They do like the films but aren't as wedded to the original trilogy as we older folk are, they don't get why i hate Jar Jar either.

The Bad Batch is just as important to my 14yr old nephew as the Mandalorian is


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 4:21 pm
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I love the Mandalorian, Boba Fett was rubbish until the Madalorian and Luke arrived.

We are enjoying Obi Wan thought episode three wasn’t out until Friday. So thanks we will be watching it tonight now

Have to agree that the kids understand this part of Star Wars through the cartoons but also the computer games apparently the 3rd sister is really hard to kill.


 
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Chopper means more to them than the movie droids as well.

I’m 45 and Chopper is by far the best droid


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 5:35 pm
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Ooh ya! Just watched episode 3 😬


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 6:40 pm
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From the last star wars game I played, the sister was basically a sith Lord but playing it low key.. Maybe that's what's happening here with her obsession for capturing obi-wan and her batman like abilities.

But she's essentially a mercenary with the other conspirators, so why they don't execute her remains to be seen.


 
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From the last star wars game I played, the sister was basically a sith Lord but playing it low key.. Maybe that’s what’s happening here with her obsession for capturing obi-wan and her batman like abilities.

Isn't there meant to be only one Sith lord, who would be the emperor in this timeline, Darth Vader is but a Sith apprentice in this timeline, so if she's suddenly jumped up to being a sith lord or even apprentice it would be weird!

I'll wait and see what happens, i just hate the whole way they seem to speed up the abilities of characters, in that last episode you have Obi Wan, a Jedi Master not able to do much, looking clumsy and useless, and then you have this sister who's down the pecking order who seems to be Darth Parkour, with all the force ability of a full trained master.

Personally i've never really understood why Disney stick Star Wars in such a small world, there's so much they can do without having to end up in a western style desert planet, or green and leafy endor style planet.


 
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Well I don’t watch the cartoons

Well as mentioned above, you've probably missed the best bit of star wars, clone wars, yes it has dud episodes but overall it's good builds up the star wars universe great.

It quite sad to see in the news that the inquisitor woman has had racist abuse online. I don't think her character is any good but that's no reason for people to behave like that.


 
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Isn’t there meant to be only one Sith lord, who would be the emperor in this timeline, Darth Vader is but a Sith apprentice in this timeline, so if she’s suddenly jumped up to being a sith lord or even apprentice it would be weird!

I’ll wait and see what happens, i just hate the whole way they seem to speed up the abilities of characters, in that last episode you have Obi Wan, a Jedi Master not able to do much, looking clumsy and useless, and then you have this sister who’s down the pecking order who seems to be Darth Parkour, with all the force ability of a full trained master.

Personally i’ve never really understood why Disney stick Star Wars in such a small world, there’s so much they can do without having to end up in a western style desert planet, or green and leafy endor style planet.

Of for sure, I agree.
The series has potential.. We'll see if it matures a bit once it's found it's feet.
The cynic in me says it won't. But it could be great.


 
Posted : 01/06/2022 8:12 pm
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Enjoyed part three. The mix of silly species (mole face man this episode) and chase tension is great fun.


 
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Gotta be honest didn't like EP3.

10 years prior to this Kenobi was a Jedi who could beat Anakin, Grevous, Maul etc.

And again 10 years after this is set he holds his own against Vadar.

But he just seemed rubbish at fighting. Also figured they'd leave the fight from this episode to nearer the end.

Oh well, expect I'll continue to watch it.


 
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