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My wife has just woken me with the startling news that she is still angry about last nights Archers! It's 6.00 o'clock and you're raving about a controlling, masogonistic, bigoted tosser. She is convinced Helen is going to breakdown and she's on about the lack of black characters now. It's only a story about dullards people who live in a fairy tale land to a ripe old age. I'm talking about you ferret molester Grundy.
I'd be happy to bump into Fallon though!


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 6:11 am
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Please give us a precis - afaiaa (not being a 'listener') he is closet gay, and is meant to get married to her, but would rather be with his gay squeeze?

Thats a bit racy for R4, or have I got it wrong?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 7:47 am
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Rob's a abusive husband, the story will be his wife, Helen, finally realising this and trying to do something about it, I'd imagine.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 8:17 am
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she's on about the lack of black characters now.

How does she know?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 8:52 am
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Posted : 14/12/2015 9:00 am
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How does she know?

[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/profiles/3VLG6MxxfQpKXF2Chky4Fmh/characters ]it does look abit UKIP[/url]


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 9:10 am
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It's a brilliant storyline though.

No one likes Helen. Or her parents.
Or her brother.
The only decent member of the family died in a tractor accident years ago......


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 9:12 am
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No one likes Helen

oh, why do I not like Helen, then? 😕


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 9:18 am
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she's on about the lack of black characters now

That is what a lot of countryside communities are like though. It would be a bit err, obvious to move the Patels into Grange Farm. Also, wasn't (isn't?) the vicars wife Asian? Im sure I've heard other 'minority' voices from time to time.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 9:19 am
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Yeah, there's only Usha, and she caused a stir when the character was introduced, why d'you think the series is so popular amongst the Daily Mail set? I think they'd have a collective heart attack if actual black folk turned up in the village.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 9:25 am
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Funny i'd always imagined them all to be of colour.
You've ruined it for me now.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 9:36 am
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Real black people?
Like Amy, you mean?
Or her gran.

And no one likes Helen, that's what she's there for.
Even now, a little bit of me will rejoice when they sign the commital papers.
🙂

Rob'll get Charlie's job, ruin Adam and Ian's wedding and then explode spectacularly.

The Archers may be a bit old-fashioned, but they've covered more 'controversial' topics than any of the TV soaps.

And I don't see anything about it designed to appeal to Mail readers.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 9:46 am
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Helen is just "unlucky"

What is wrong with Pat and Tony?

Hear it very sporadically these days but Rob is a typical Ambridge rotter 😆

Fallon follows after her mum, the shower scene with Sid caused a National outrage.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:04 am
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My mate is Ed Grundy in the Archers . It means nothing me mind but he's cool .


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:05 am
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she's on about the lack of black characters now

I lived in a West Country village for 2 years.There were no black people.

Rob is one of the darkest characters ever. A proper psycho.

He has just possibly broke up Ian and Adam.

He raped his wife.

He is also controlling her and getting support to do it from her mother.It's not clear but he is possibly drugging her to make her weak, tired and confused.

It's a really good story line and I guess it's building up to a Christmas climax.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:08 am
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Fallon Rogers.

Chapeau, script writers.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:10 am
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"The Archers may be a bit old-fashioned, but they've covered more 'controversial' topics than any of the TV soaps"

well that's setting the bar at an appropriate level


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:12 am
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Pretty much spot-on there gobuchul, though I don't think he's drugging her. Gaslighting like a mofo though. That the victim is the thoroughly dislikeable Helen just makes the storyline even better.

Also, I reckon he put Scruff's corpse in the silage!


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:18 am
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Oh hell yes he spoiled the silage, of course he did. What happened when he hit the sab and Shulah (wettest character ever) saw him? Did he try and intimidate her?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:23 am
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I reckon he put Scruff's corpse in the silage!

shortly after he blocked up the waterway/conduit.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:26 am
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Also, I reckon he put Scruff's corpse in the silage!

Johnners - What evidence do you have for that? I never made any connection.

I don't think he's drugging her. Gaslighting like a mofo though

She slept for a day last week. I think he's doing something.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:26 am
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how long before he hits Henry?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:38 am
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Is it just me that finds Kirsty's gravelly voice ([i]not[/i] in a vocal fry/daan with the sixth formers way) probably the sexyest in the known Universe?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:40 am
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Is Amos still running the woolpack?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:50 am
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always amazes me how often i hear this and how little i know about it and I care even less.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:52 am
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Johnners - What evidence do you have for that? I never made any connection.

Duh! It's Rob, innit.*

I can't see that he'd be risking drugs on the mother of his son and heir, also the tiredness isn't unusual with either pregnancy or depression, which seems definitely the direction she's headed.

*I have no evidence whatsoever. But - it's Rob, innit?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:53 am
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JY - So why open the ****ing post and reply? 🙄


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:54 am
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@Junky excellent, thanks for the pointless contribution. Why not sod off to some other thread that actually interests you then? 😀


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 10:54 am
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"gobuchul - Member
JY - So why open the **** post..."

because not everyone knows that a reference to "Helen" can only mean the thread is about some strange voices that people get in their heads courtesy of public service broadcasting


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:00 am
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Junkyard - lazarus
always amazes me how often i hear this and how little i know about it and I care even less.

How can you not care about the Grundy's plight and the way poorly paid local workers are being priced out of rural housing? Or the lack of decent assisted living places for Joe? He's in his nineties for god's sake!

You have a heart of flint.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:01 am
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@antigee you cleverly(?) missed out 'and reply' in your selective quote.

'I've nothing to say but I'll say it anyway' shocker...


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:02 am
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The point Mrs wingnuts was making about black characters is that they are very rare and don't get meaty parts. She is an educated black professional and yet she shouts at the fictional story of country folk! I just get fed up that she has to have it on iplayer when she misses it at 6.00 in the morning! Rob is a wonderfully dark person and I love to wind her up about his next evil plan. Have to say I missed the Scruff in the silage being down to him angle.
Isn't Kirsty Jasper Carrot's daughter?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:06 am
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That is what a lot of countryside communities are like though. It would be a bit err, obvious to move the Patels into Grange Farm. Also, wasn't (isn't?) the vicars wife Asian? Im sure I've heard other 'minority' voices from time to time.

All the workers on the dairy farm that Eddy didn't get the job at were Polish.

I had assumed that everyone else was a Rastafarian.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:08 am
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Isn't Kirsty Jasper Carrot's daughter?

Nah that was Hayleigh MkI


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:08 am
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Isn't Kirsty Jasper Carrot's daughter?

No, she played the receptionist in The Office.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:13 am
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Isn't Kirsty Jasper Carrot's daughter?
No, she played the receptionist in The Office

Ooo do they only do one role then retire? Same actress 😉


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:16 am
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Seriously, you lot need to get a life.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:16 am
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.... a Country life... 😀


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:18 am
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Seriously, you lot need to get a life.

The brilliant thing about radio is that you can listen and do other things! Clever isn't it?

I listen to the Archers either while cooking or when I am driving. It just enhances other activities. 🙂


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:21 am
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Jasper Carrott's daughter was Hayloi, but years ago now.

Tony IS the second Doctor's son though.
And new Clarrie is original 'Pam Ayres' Clarrie again now.

And Pip is much, much better than she was too.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:26 am
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Seriously, you lot need to get a life.

Pah. You'll be suggesting we all go out and ride around on bicycles next.


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:27 am
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Oooh, Lakey Hill ride anyone?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:29 am
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Pah. You'll be suggesting we all go out and ride around on bicycles next.

…which can be done whilst listening to The Archers!

Rachel


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:29 am
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Pah. You'll be suggesting we all go out and ride around on bicycles next.
…which can be done whilst listening to The Archers!

Rachel

Uh oh.. Cue argument about wearing earphones whilst riding which'll lead to helmet debate which'll lead to the Universe collapsing in on itself etc.. Be careful out there, careless talk has consequences. 😀


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:33 am
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While we're speculating, where's the body of the Pole who was going to shop Rob months back then disappeared (I had money on him being in the sileage clamp)?


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:36 am
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where's the body of the Pole who was going to shop Rob months back then disappeared

oohh, I missed that one!


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:40 am
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Nah Slurry lagoon, weighted down never be found unless they empty the lagoon to do some maintenance or enlarge.

Ooooh is he a murderer as well then, I may have to start listening again 😆


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:40 am
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"Isn't Kirsty Jasper Carrot's daughter?"

Wot Kirsty Carrot!


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:40 am
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I may have to start listening again

Wouldn't bother its going through another phase where the characters are struggling to break into two dimensions let alone being rounded (Seems to happen every four to five years)


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:42 am
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"Isn't Kirsty Jasper Carrot's daughter?"

Wot Kirsty Carrot!

Oooo Thirsty Kirsty... Ahem, sorry about that. Won't do it again 😀


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 11:43 am
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You have a heart of flint.

Flintier even than Hazel Wooley's!


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 12:46 pm
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It does sometimes go a bit daft... the splitting up of joe from his family then suddenly they are all back together...! WTF?? Rob is ace and the story does a reasonable job of showing how in isolation one person can manipulate others to their own end. Of course he put scruffy in the clamp! seems pretty obvious really as the archers isn't what could be described as subtle!. I listen to it when im riding there i said it....


 
Posted : 14/12/2015 1:06 pm

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