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We had great fun meeting you, showing off our trousers, playing records and drinking free beer.
A Hoes Down.
It's good to know the measurements are as per the guide. I've never had a pair of 38" trousers before, been in 36" for years. Strange how all the 36"-labelled trousers measure up as 38". Fellow trouser wearers, we've been duped.
Fellow trouser wearers, we've been duped.
Theres an aspect of 'vanity sizing' in the industry, but also, unless you're Simon Cowel the waist band of your trousers doesn't actually go round your waist. So on most garments its really an 'effective' waist size in the same way as a bike frame would have an 'effective' top tube.
Just to add my two-penneth,I am 6'4" with a 33" waist and sorry Cougar, but I do have a 36" inside leg. Well 35 1/2" really but its near enough. And I am no Magic Johnson with a basketball more's the pity.
My problem being the wonderfully weird shape my parents made me is that very few trousers I try on actually fit. Nothing in Next has a long enough leg, nor M & S and most of the other high street shops. Now I love the idea of selling them unhemmed, I think all of us know someone who can do hem them to the right length or we could have a hack at it ourselves (it can't be harder than setting up a front derailleur properly, can it?) but while I'd love a pair of good moleskins, the price is just a bit on the high side for me.
I do hope your venture turns out well though, Ed and Brant, we need more innovation of this type.
very few trousers I try on actually fit
As a lanky top tip - Snickers (the workwear people not the chocolate bar) make most of their their stuff in 5 leg lengths, the longest being 37". A lot of their stuff is properly workwear in terms of holster pockets and knee pads etc. But they make a 'Service Chino' which is plainer / casualler (all be it in quite a robust workwear fabric) and is part of that sizing system (their jeans aren't) - anything of theirs with the size code '248' is 33" waist, 37" leg (and a 148 is 33"/35") and they're about £30
I've decided to get a pair of nice tight shorts made from the off-cuts once mine have been shortened. 🙂
Many thanks Ed and Brant.
Are you the chap that requested number 14?
I am - can I also have 'troublemaker' sewn in to the turn ups 😳
<awaiting "great strides in production" update>
Trousers. The debagging.
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Hebtroco Founder No.6
The bastards stuffed a load of Yorkshire tea bags in the pockets. Urrghhhh. I think there's a stray northerner somewhere round these parts I can pass them on to.
Mighty, mighty fine moleskin. I reckon these are chainsaw safe.
Enough drop in the gusset that my ballbag doesnt rub. A key concern.
I see what they mean by "slim fit" now. It doesn't mean: "crowbar me in, cut me out", it means there's not acres of spare cloth flapping about everywhere. Yet I can squat or touch* my toes and blood supply remains unaffected.
*I've never been able to touch my toes, but I can make a fist of it with grunting noises
I think there's an anti-change-falling-down-by-the-handbrake-flap in the left hand pocket. Sinisterly* there isn't one in the right hand pocket.
*bdum tish
I'm going to like these I think.
Full hipster points for the cover letter as well 🙂
courier/typewriter/typos/etc
Got mine from the pub last weekend. Comfort was soon following.
I am the coveted #69
I am the coveted #69
skillz
Bloody tight though!!!!
Bloody tight though!!!!
this post is useless without a gusset photo.
you could add to your wardrobe with some selvage denim or a flasher mac from here:
[url= https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/267973823/community-clothing-make-clothes-create-jobs-restor?ref=project_tweet ]https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/267973823/community-clothing-make-clothes-create-jobs-restor?ref=project_tweet[/url]
Apparently an "unable to deliver" note was left at home today. Getting excited.
Best calm down first, or you'll never get them on.
Hebtroco Founder No.6
Who is number 1?
Thanks for the link MrSmith, will look at that more closely later
😀
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Hebtroco Founder No.6
I am not a number, I am a HebTroCo trouserless man!
Thanks for the post Stoner. Me and Oxley were in Oldgate after, and before hand delivering some around town.
We are about 75% through shipment right now.
Great to see them out there with the awesome founders who helped us start this thing up again.
Mine are at the post office [b]AND I CAN'T GET THERE UNTIL FRIDAY![/b]
Weirdly I really want to know what number I am.
Weirdly I really want to know what number I am.
97
My mother's favourite number!*
*a lie.
WOW. OK, founder so invested in them being good, but lordy you need these trousers in your life! as Stoner says hey're just right around your legs, and are properly sized so take care on the sizing when you order. great weight, great cut, and it's true, random girls will stroke your legs
😳
78
must not buy more clothes
off to find my tape measure....
Is there going to be a second wave, after I missed the first?
Mine are having to journey to Hong Kong. I fear the excitement will have died down by the time they arrive, and no-one will want to see my gusset.
🙁
Is there going to be a second wave, after I missed the first?
You can buy them online now.
Mine are having to journey to Hong Kong. I fear the excitement will have died down by the time they arrive, and no-one will want to see my gusset.
I think they left yesterday. Thanks for your support.
(Oh. Support. That wasn't a gusset joke)
partyboy1101 - Member
Is there going to be a second wave, after I missed the first?
POSTED 7 HOURS AGO # REPORT-POST
As HTS says, we have a stock model that is nearing shipping. It's exactly the same trouser, but without the huge logistical headache of sequential numbering. It's called The 177.
Great to see the trousers starting to arrive. Thanks for sharing guys
Hurry up postie......
wwaswas - Member
Who is number 1?*waves*
I was actually hoping the new No.2 would declare themselves but at least
nbt - Member
I am not a number, I am a HebTroCo trouserless man!
satisfied my Prisoner requirements, thanks nbt
i got the reference, even if no-one else did
I currently have overly soft legs. This is most pleasing.
It's a miracle I can stop stroking myself long enough to make it to work. Hebtroos stepping out in London town today.
Got mine on now. They are very fabulous. Think I'm going to have to get a pair of 177s in the other colour.
Fit is very much like my 501s but a little more tapered below the knee.
No. 81 has arrived at my house. Haven't tried them on yet. Probably best to wait till all the local wimminz are asleep. 🙂
Anyone washed theirs yet?
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Washed mine three times, last time at 40degs.
Takes a half day to get them back to their regular fit after washing (they bed in) but all good now.
I'm in a 32 and should really be in a 33 or 34 so probably have more issues than most people.
I have come home half expecting a parcel for the last couple of days. Reckon they must have sent them down by boat on the Aire/Calder canal and forgotten that it's closed at Shipley. Isn't impatience great! Also number curious!!
I have come home half expecting a parcel for the last couple of days. Reckon they must have sent them down by boat on the Aire/Calder canal and forgotten that it's closed at Shipley. Isn't impatience great! Also number curious!!
You're number 10 Conrad. And it's just a matter of a mis-order of the waist/leg size you've requested which have slowed things up. So our apologies. I hope to get those out by end of this week.
....has vision of a skinny (well slim) pair of trousers with mahoosive long legs!
It was simpler when I was in my 20's 32/32. Thanks for the update!
checked the post and all I got was a bloody singletrack magazine 😉
Pics please of you lot wearing your new trousers ...
No good describing coz I need to look at pics! 😛
edit: went to an army surplus store yesterday where some of the army jackets are made of mole skins but they are rough whereas my jacket (non-army) is smooth and soft. hhmmm ... mole skins ... I need to buy the army jacket for my cooking duty ...
Go on then, what's my number please?
Hurry up postie....
I think mine are waiting for me next door. She's a late riser, do I make myself late for work so I can stride about handsomely in the sunshine?
Washed mine three times, last time at 40degs.
The blurb says expect about half an inch shrinkage in length. Is that about right? Should I wash them a couple of times before getting them turned up to length?
Mine are at the Post Office, will be calling in later to get them.
I think mine are waiting for me next door. She's a late riser, do I make myself late for work so I can stride about handsomely in the sunshine?
From other's posts, if she sees you in them you won't be going in at all.
Well done you lot.
🙂
If any short, fat people have ordered a pair, let us know how you get on.
Anybody need a pair of shortarsed sized W32L30? I'd rather mine go to someone that'll wear them than languish unworn in my wardrobe. They're numbered 81. Unworn, apart from one try-on (post-shower!!).
I'll take em!
No, wait, Jr already has some trousers... 🙂
Anybody need a pair of shortarsed sized W32L30? I'd rather mine go to someone that'll wear them than languish unworn in my wardrobe. They're numbered 81. Unworn, apart from one try-on (post-shower!!).
We are doing exchanges if you'd like to send them back?
Oh right, grand. Are the details on your site?
I'd rather mine go to someone that'll wear them than languish unworn in my wardrobe
What's wrong with them, out of interest?
Oh right, grand. Are the details on your site?
http://hebtro.co/support-and-returns/
Thats returns for purchased product, but it's got our address on it and measuring help.
Swapping a couple of people today. One due to drunk ordering. One due to incorrect measuring.
Ah 57... A skinny grey 30 with unfinished leg?
That's me. Now, do I wash them before getting them taken up? Shall I have a turnup?
Worn today and enjoyed both compliments and some R&M frottage. Liking the French bearer detail.
Any chance of a model with hook & bar waistband and slash or side pockets (rather than Jean-style)?
rewarding and messy ?R&M frottage
Mine arrived today. no root vegetables, no superfluous rack mounts and no fundental measurement that's accidentally a bit small. Is brant really involved? 😉
They are gloriously well made, lovely material, true to size. I'd like maybe more taper from the knee but that's a point of taste. Thanks for the tea bag.
Cheers Eddie11
We are almost all the way through shipping Founders Kickstarter trousers. Shipping on some delayed by us having to guess colours and sizes across 40 sku's with limited data, and some small production hiccups.
We have shipped the first few production 177's today after being able to match up some overstock from the founders run with early orders for 177s.
We have about 50 more pieces completing tomorrow, and another 150 completing at the end of next week so hopefully should be all caught up by then.
Cheers
After a few days of agonising I've popped mine in the post to swap for a smaller pair. I'm gutted to give up my Founder's patch (#99) but if they don't fit they will never be truly magnificent. They are brilliant trousers; fit, fabric, construction are top notch and the moleskin is beautiful.
I'm one if the chunky leg brigade who normally struggle with anything the isn't described as 'easy' fit. That's not a problem here.
I think I over-measured as the jeans and chinos I went off have a lower rise so I was measuring a different bit.
Once I get the size right I'm having some blue ones too 🙂
Great job Brant & Ed, it must be wonderful to see the results of what (I imagine) started as a daft idea in a pub.
#98 turned up, a bit tight.
Brant has taken them back for a slightly fatter ones, but I'm keeping my number.
That felt fantastic.
Will there be any in black in the future as they would make perfect work trousers?
This one weeks worth of production seems to be taking rather longer than I thought.
Stoners letter is dated the eleventh of March....
Brant mentioned they were 75% through posting over a week ago, has something gone wrong with mine?
All the shouting and interest will be over by the time I get mine as even if they're due now I'm away for the week.
This is someone who sat a hospital appointment for 4 hours last week as they'd slipped my notes into someone else's and even after asking whether there was a problem they didn't actually bother going and checking.
This one weeks worth of production seems to be taking rather longer than I thought.
We polled as many people as we could using the methods available to us and placed an order across 5 waist sizes, four leg lengths and two colours to have trousers as Kickstarter funds landed with us (six weeks after project launched).
It was no suprise to find us under ordered in some sizes and colours.
To all founders, thanks for your support!
Stoners letter is dated the eleventh of March....
Everybody's letter is dated 11th March.
Eight more shipped this morning leaving just trousers from either very late repliers, non repliers, or one man with 40in trousers which I didn't like the patch pocket position on.
What's your proper name Pepper. I will look into this.
All have been sent Royal Mail sign for, I have a large box of receipts and I have a sheet of paper with lots of ticks on.
Update on mine.
Had them on pretty much constantly for a week or so to break them in. No discernible shrinkage in the wash, but put them in on their own for the first few times or they will stain everything "Hebden Blue".
Top pants. Saving for a pair of 177s in a different colour.
Ah, 40" with a patch pocket problem. Richard Brookes.
Got my 177s yesterday. Lovely. Material feels super tough but very soft and comfy. Snug in the waste, actually pretty
much perfect, but not too many pies for me if I want them to stay that way! All in all they seem to be top banana. Good luck with the future products chaps. Long live trouser town.
🙁
Richard! 40's through production today. Being patched by Ruby tomorrow.
Hope to get them out ASAP. Thanks.
I think I over-measured as the jeans and chinos I went off have a lower rise so I was measuring a different bit.
To add another sizing data point, I think this caught me out too. I measured up my 34" waist Diesel jeans and was coming out at needing 37". I decided to go 38" to allow for a bit of shrinkage but found the 38's 177's were comically huge on me.
Also HebTroCo were featured in the Observer on Sunday;
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/apr/03/rare-woods-in-guitars-are-ecologically-unsustainable-lucy-siegle (scroll down)
From their twitter it sounded as though it generated a lot of orders - nice one lads!
Yay 🙂
I decided to go 38" to allow for a bit of shrinkage but found the 38's 177's were comically huge on me.
We don't find the waists shrink. The legs do. It's to do with weft and warp. Also waists stretch (hah - in both ways) - but the trousers do get looser after a day or so. But not longer!
Yet to wash mine - but have worn them a lot. Really quite happy with them. Must stop stroking them.
Boo, 🙁
This waiting malarkey is getting me down!
Another 5 days wait, I blooming well hope I measured em right when they do get here!




