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[i]Are the moles locally sourced?[/i]
They tessellate perfectly, wherever they're from.
but Ed thinks I'm crackers.
TBF he's probably not the only one, though 😀
Hebden moles. Cut from a different cloth...
Any chances of having trousers with shallower pockets for the [s]tight-fisted[/s] budget conscious?
brant - Member
Aye. We'll fix pockets. The cotton pocket lining we're using is, as far as I know, the highest grade that's used in anything anywhere.
Good on you. See one more FAQ done!
I also have a dream of something with kevlar pocket linings and CNC'd buttons, but Ed thinks I'm crackers.
I am sure at one point there is a market for that kevlar pocket I kid you not.
So you're in for £95 Chewkw then?
Not now I am afraid but will do in future when things become less trendy. Trendy is good for business but not for me.
Imagine this ... I am a pipe smoker (legal stuff), no hairs on the head, wear a cap and waist coat and wearing mole skin trousers ... the lefties will be up in arms if they see me ... I might pull their birds!
Seriously the reason is that I have too many pairs of jeans (with external pocket design so even the pocket lining is made of jeans).
Brant, good to see you starting more businesses ... 😛
I'm in for a pair. Good price for proper quality and service and have a soft spot for Hebden, be nice to give something back. May be a challenge as skinny jeans don't tend to get on with my manly thighs. And even more manly belly. Will probably be a 40" man (normally 38). So put me down for one of the founders pairs please!
Will you be doing short leg ones?
Will you be doing short leg ones?
I think the point is that you can make them any length you want
Ok forgive me if I'm being thick, but if they are tapered, will that not mean the size of the trouser leg opening will be different depending on how short you have them taken up?
I guess, how far are you intending to take them up?
😀
Any chances of having trousers with shallower pockets for the tight-fisted budget conscious?
You want deeper pockets, not shallower ones then. Ones your tight fists can't reach to the bottom of 🙂
Thanks Brant, yeah not much difference then. They look good in that pic.
I guess, how far are you intending to take them up?
You've not seen how stumpy my legs are have you. Generally 30" leg jeans require turnups.
[quote=grum ]Ok forgive me if I'm being thick, but if they are tapered, will that not mean the size of the trouser leg opening will be different depending on how short you have them taken up?
£95 and you've got to finish them off yourself? Is this like one of those weekly magazines where part 2 includes the thread and needle?
I think the point is that you can make them any length you want
Being done in standard sizes, so far as I can tell.
[url= http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/sport/football-club-s-pitch-battle-with-mole-hills-1-7122886 ]Moles are a problem round these parts[/url]
Mackem - Member
I think the point is that you can make them any length you want
Being done in standard sizes, so far as I can tell.
Not on the £95 "Founder" they aren't.
Want them in standard lengths? That'll be £125 once they've sold the first lot and raised the money.
All of a sudden it looks cheaper to get them turned up yourself.... 🙄
Not on the £95 "Founder" they aren't.
Want them in standard lengths? That'll be £125 once they've sold the first lot and raised the money.
All of a sudden it looks cheaper to get them turned up yourself....
Sir. You are commenting on a draft Kickstarter project that was, for want of a better word, leaked.
We haven't said £125 ones will come to length. We haven't said that our final decision is that £95 pledges will be unfinished.
I'm really greatfull for the feedback you've all given and the viewpoints raised. I note nobody has said "that's great that they aren't finishing them to a specific leg length. I can't wait to try to find someone to turn them up".
We will be offering finished leg lengths.
Will you be setting out a plan for your future designs? For £95 I'm in, but if you're planning a lower rise, semi-hipster version on the future I'd hold out for that.
Will there be backing options as an alternative to the founder pairs?
You're all ignoring those people out there with one leg longer than the other. These trousers are a real boon to those people.
JPR. If we can't sell these, nothing is happening.
I'm happy with unfinished length if it makes it easier to manage - my wife's friend will do it for fun, she's always sewing something.
I'd prefer that rather than guessing at a length; my waist size is 'flexible' to some extent, I'm unlikely to get substantially taller or shorter, hence I'd rather guess at a waist and adjust slightly with a belt than guess at a leg length and end up looking like my cat just died.
Brant, sorry was assuming that was going to be easy.
The only problem I'd see with the long length is the chance I balls it up by getting that hemmed too short. I'd want a lot of handholding. Maybe a section on the site explaining how to measure correctly and the different styles that going long, short, or turnups create.
Regardless, I'll be backing you when it goes live.
There's obviously an opening here for a professional Trouser Fit service. I can forsee a whole industry opening up of outlets where you could get someone to take your measurements, make some adjustments for your gait, "dress", planned usage and sitting posture and stick them all on some computer-generated diagram so you can have your trousers suitably adjusted. How much do you reckon folk would pay?
Scotroutes - definitely in on that one - is no one doing it now?
Brant - I'd have commented on your website that you linked to previously but its nothing more than a holding page with even less info than the "leaked" Kickstarter one.
I'm not knocking th eidea - I like it.
I'm knocking the fact that you are into the top end of pricing and there'll be another amount to pay [b]AFTER[/b] delivery before you can actually wear them. (unless you want to look like a Gap employee or an eighties punk with mahoosive turnups)
£95 is not the top end of pricing.
Look at selvedge jeans and other quality trousers, these are a reasonable price and I think finish them yourself is fine.
Brant,
I'm ok with unfinished, and since I tend to be 33" IL, end up having to re-hem 34" ones. Just wary of modern fit, whereby there's a hank of material left at the waist in those that get over thighs & backside, so other measurements useful.
Perhaps like Alexander McQueen in his Jermyn Street days, you or Ed should scribble a hidden message inside a few pairs - back of the leather patch?
I'm quite keen on the unfinished aspect. means I can get them absolutely "bang on"
I reckon I'll be taking mine up to the end of the taper. 🙂
Is it just me, or am I the only one who hates button flys and would prefer a decent zip?
not just you, I prefer a zip too.
How much does it cost to taper jeans/trousers nowadays? £5? £10? more? 🙂
F'chrissakes. They have buttons and you have to adjust the length to suit. Deal with it. 🙄
A limited run can't be done with different lengths. Think of all the variables that would need to be covered. Fixing the length means that more will get sold which why it is being done that way.
Button flies are sexier.
Alternatively, Spencer Trousers in nearby Sowerby Bridge will make you a pair of made to measure trousers in any style, cut or fabric. I think I paid 70 quid for my last pair, in moleskin. They've got patterns going back 150 years, and have been family owned since then [url=http:// https://www.spencers-trousers.com ]link[/url]
I only have a zip fly on my wedding/funeral/interview trousers and I get The Fear when zipping up.
I've spent the last week dropping hints to the wife about how much trousers/jeans cost...
Alternatively, Spencer Trousers in nearby Sowerby Bridge will make you a pair of made to measure trousers in any style, cut or fabric. I think I paid 70 quid for my last pair, in moleskin. They've got patterns going back 150 years, and have been family owned since then https://www.spencers-trousers.com
Yeah for sure. Nigel from Spencers was in OldGate last night. Ed saw him and he wished us well. Nigel goes riding with the gang from Blazing Saddles a bit. I approached him with my idea for this project a few months ago but it didn't fit with the way he wanted to run his business. I have a pair of moleskin trousers he made-to-measure for me that are really nice.
Will these pants be ok for swinging ?
Please say yes
footflaps - MemberIs it just me, or am I the only one who hates button flys and would prefer a decent zip?
+2
I'd like to see velcro make an appearance. You know, easy out and that.
I'm assuming the trousers are being made up in hebden but is the cloth being woven local too?
Alternatively, Spencer Trousers in nearby Sowerby Bridge will make you a pair of made to measure trousers in any style, cut or fabric. I think I paid 70 quid for my last pair, in moleskin. They've got patterns going back 150 years, and have been family owned since then https://www.spencers-trousers.comYeah for sure. Nigel from Spencers was in OldGate last night. Ed saw him and he wished us well. Nigel goes riding with the gang from Blazing Saddles a bit. I approached him with my idea for this project a few months ago but it didn't fit with the way he wanted to run his business. I have a pair of moleskin trousers he made-to-measure for me that are really nice.
Thank you for the kind words guys.
It's great that folk like Brant and Ed want to support what is left of an industry that employed thousands of people in the past and all at Spencers wish you well in your new venture!
Here here! UK needs to make more stuff. We are actually better at it than we give ourselves credit for.
*bump* for trouser day...
I've joined Kickstarter (Kekstarter?) for this, but no hebtroco! What am I doing wrong? Do I have to wait for the chelebridy-spotted warehouse party launch, c/w Russo-tiki fusion nibbles and Pocari sweat cocktails?
(Also http://hebtro.co/ hasn't updated)
They took down the draft page link to on page 1. Launch should be sometime this afternoon.
I'm on tenterhooks here!
Ah! Yorkshire kecks. Extra deep pockets to go with my short arms and they soon pay for themselves (unlike the wearer...)
We're live.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hebtroco/properly-made-british-trousers-with-a-lifetime-gua
19 backers in the first 15 minutes! Good show. Got my order in.
I've ordered a pair too.
quarter of the way there - good going 🙂
Backed.
Moi aussi.
Backed. I'll have mine in green please.
Look just the job for a slow old man. So I'm in.
I've joined the trouser love-in/brigade as well, time to start saving for a pair of the Converse i mentioned on page two.
Brant - can you post a better pic of the dark navy & grey colours?
Cheers,
got as far as putting the CC details in and ready to hit pledge, but haven't yet found anywhere to put my colour / sizing requirements in?
Did I miss it? Does it come up after the 'pledge' button? Or is that something that'll be sorted later once the funding goal is reached?
I imagine Brant will be be in touch for our details once the funding target has been reached - that's what usually happens on Kickstarter.
Also backed. I just liked how they kept saying "trousers" on the video.
I just want to make sure because I'm not at home with a tape measure to be able to measure my favourite jeans at the moment.
So I want to pledge to make sure I don't miss out but if they need size info, I'd be guessing which wasn't the plan for a pair of £95 trouser hand woven by artisan bearded virgins 😉
**** it, I'll press pledge. And sort it out with Brant or Ed after if needs be.
PS: I really really really want pair #14 if that's possible. Sentimental value that i don't want to explain.
[edit] - pledged; looks like I'm #91.
Ugh I really want a pair but I can't afford/justify the cost.
Fair play Brant - 32/34" or overlocked.
Well, nearly 100 already pledge d and the kickstarter has only been going acouple of hours, so if you want a pair do it tonight!!
I'd still be wanting to see better pictures to tempt my wallet out of the trousers I'm wearing. Not artfully black and white or wistful instamatic shots but well exposed photos of garments, in focus, in decent light - and perhaps just for fun - managing to the get the whole garment in the frame. The grey looks like it could possibly be nice, but I can't really tell if the seemingly nice tone of the grey is an artefact of photos and filters.
I'm in.
Good luck Ed and Brant
Pledged.
I'm in @ #99.
I'd still be wanting to see better pictures to tempt my wallet out of the trousers I'm wearing.
Asos have some moleskin slacks for a tenner. Only in black though. 🙁
In 😀
Happy new trousers.
Stride sales soar - I'm to be the 116th best clothed man in Britain.
At this rate, the pantaloon portcullis will drop tonight, leaving the bare-legged gnashing at the unidimensional their procrastination has produced.
50 pairs left!
Brant and Ed.....
If the 176 get sold quickly will the production/delivery/money taken be brought forward?
Taking the hems up is easy.
Stand on a chair (wearing the trousers and shoes).
Tuck the hem up to desired length,pin,(you will need someone to do this for you) then walk around a bit, in front of a mirror if possible.Walking around you may find they need dropping a few millimeters or so.
Turn inside out and handsew. Obviously use the correct colour thread.
Voila!
I think this is marvelous. Buying good quality, British made clothing is the way forward.
I like. I want. I don't have the cash at the moment.
Good luck with this - I think there are so many UK businesses that need 'restarting"...,
I think there are so many UK businesses that need 'restarting".
Do you think we can get £3.5b pledged to buy back Corus and make a few 1000Tonnes of Steel?
Dammit. I must be an odd shape based on my favourite trousers
Self obsessed rubbish in my opinion. Should have been called HebBroCo
SlacksFoBrosCo.

