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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c74lq35jdego
The impact of bright lights on road users is being independently investigated for the first time.
The increased brightness of modern vehicles, as mentioned in the article, often has me doubting if oncoming lights are dipped or not, which makes me think of:
Rule 114
You MUST NOTuse any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users, including pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders
Also positive to see a cycling perspective included.
I agree that lights have become a lot brighter , but one of the main problems ( including driving on a bright day ) is that people’s windscreens are dirty.
If they cleaned them on a regular basis they wouldn’t have half the issues they do.
The other issue, in my eyes (literally & figuratively!) is that the headlights are now predominantly at a higher level to begin with due to crossover/SUVs etc. If you drive a non-raised up car, they seem to be directly in your eyeline.
Stagecoach buses are by far the worst though. Their headlights are brighter than the sun.
Dirty headlamps are possibly more of a problem IMO. They scatter the light. Lots of people never clean them and it's difficult to tell from inside the car.
Just purchased a newer Octavia with the silly bright headlights - sometimes get flashed by people who think I'm on main beam. Sorry.
Though anyone commuting by bike using their 1500+ lumen off road searchlight needs to have a think about how that affects other road/path users as well.
We've got two cars, a small Seat Ibiza and a much larger Merc Viano and I get dazzled by oncoming lights even when I'm driving the Viano. My eyes are quite sensitive to light, I often wear sunglasses when driving on pretty dull days and sitting behind a car with brake lights on can be a bit much sometimes. But some headlights do seem to be too bright or the spread is too much, it's new cars generally so they can't be badly set up I wouldn't have thought.
Also recent anecdotal observation is that cars with ‘auto high beam assist’ seem to only switch to dipped beam once you’ve been blinded by the full beam, as opposed to manually dipping before meeting passing car. Intelligent headlights / auto high beam also seems to not work well when being followed and cars seem to have lights that are adjusting all the time and wanting to put as much light up the road as possible. Also not sure these systems work well when dealing with bikes- not sure if (some) drivers can’t be bothered to dip lights when I am commuting as I am just a ‘cyclist’ (using StVZO B&M front light, not 2000 lumens of trail lights!) or if the system doesn’t recognise pedestrians/cyclists.
I've go an i4 M50. Since the clocks went back I'm flashed loads of times when my beam is dipped. Its bloody ridiculous. I can see the level of the my dipped beam and IMO its too high. Even for a low slung car.
Though anyone commuting by bike using their 1500+ lumen off road searchlight needs to have a think about how that affects other road/path users as well.
Also rear lights.
It's great that you think drivers can see you form 4km away, but to anyone following 3999m or closer your 200 lumen strobe light is making it impossible to see the road or anything else (especially in the rain with wet glasses).
If you drive a non-raised up car, they seem to be directly in your eyeline.
Yup. Stupidly powerful lights at eye height is never going to work well. Especially a pain in the arse when some **** is behind you and the mirrors are melting due to the incoming light.
Though anyone commuting by bike using their 1500+ lumen off road searchlight
Leaving the offroad lights aside there does seem to be a bad habit of people having their bike lights pointing straight forward rather than tilted slightly downwards. Got an old railway line near me and can be rather irritating on the long straights.
And people stopped at lights or in traffic with their foot on the brake so their brake lights dazzle drivers behind, that's annoying too.
Though anyone commuting by bike using their 1500+ lumen off road searchlight needs to have a think about how that affects other road/path users as well.
Back in the day when I used to cycle commute in London, one fine evening I saw someone coming the other way with an incredibly bright white strobe light. And I saw 'I saw' what I really mean is 'I was totally blinded by'. I can only assume they left a trail of destruction in their wake because no-one was avoiding that.
Back to car headlights, I am about to swap from a 20 year old Honda Civic with with 20 year old headlights and a relatively low hatchback driving position, to a few years old Seat Arona with LED lights and higher driving position. So I'm selfishly contributing to the problem I guess, but also hopefully now I'll be able to see where I'm going.
I've got good eyesight and even I struggle at night now. I don't think the shift from a warm lights to very bright white lights has helped.
And people stopped at lights or in traffic with their foot on the brake so their brake lights dazzle drivers behind, that’s annoying too.
Modern automatics with auto-hold don't give the option, the brake lights are on as a "safety feature". Similarly if there's an electronic handbrake the brake lights are on in traffic.
Headlight brightness is an arms race.
Driving Mrs a11y's car with lower (normal, non-SUV) driving position is much worse than driving the van. Although doesn't help that the van's headslights are barely adequate despite uprated-but-legal halogen bulbs and you're competing against BRIGHTER THAN THE SUN light from the newest vehicles.
And people stopped at lights or in traffic with their foot on the brake so their brake lights dazzle drivers behind, that’s annoying too.
Really pees me off that one. I'd take a guess at some (but not all) auto cars being more faffy to put into neutral/handbrake on than manual? I rarely drive Mrs a11y's auto car so it's unfamiliar to me, but it's definitely a faff to remember which button to press on the side of the gearknob to then be allowed to move it out of D and into P or N. Chastises you if you get it wrong!
I absolutely hate them at the moment. I have astigmatism meaning things are a lot worse as well.
growing up i got pulled for showing more than one pair of lights (driving light) on the front of my car. I believe this is in the highway code? these days there are light bars, quad lights and allsorts. It makes it even harder to tell if someone has them on full beam.
Most people in new cars dont even know their lights are on. its distracting and blinds you to more vulnerable users.
Just imagine how quickly SUV sales will drop if they suddenly need to have their headlights mounted round their ankles - giddy at the though
It's also not helping to the light pollution mix that new EV cars are lit up like Christmas trees. WTF do they need so many lights on the front?
And strip lights along the bonnet are something that makes me disproportionately cross!
In the mid 90s a work colleague went to the optician because he was getting dazzled by oncoming car lights at night. He did all the tests and had textbook 20/20 vision, but iirc the optician said something about oncoming lights being difficult for your eyes to deal with. My colleague was reassured that his vision was fine, but worried that the people in the oncoming cars were probably struggling more than he was.
I've stopped driving at night because of the stupidly bright vehicle lights. At some points I can't even see my side of the road on unlit streets/lanes, This is particularly bad when it's raining.
I am still on H4 halogens. Fine in the old days, but if a modern led car is behind me, I am driving into a shadow. Rubbish, and then I slow, the led-car gets closer, I can see even less, I slow more.. etc.
I have fixed this a bit by polishing the headlight covers and fitting nightsearcher 2000s or something, but its only a marginal improvement. Probably need to change the wiring loom. Anyway, utter stupidity having such a disparity in allowable light output.
Leaving the offroad lights aside there does seem to be a bad habit of people having their bike lights pointing straight forward rather than tilted slightly downwards. Got an old railway line near me and can be rather irritating on the long straights.
It doesn't make much difference with an off-road beam, it'd need to be ~45deg down to actually put the cut off below peoples eyes.
The reason they look darker past the central spot is because the angle with the road is becoming more acute which means the light intensity is more spread out. To anyone oncoming it's still like riding into a car's main beam because they're still facing the lights perpendiculalry.
I’ve stopped driving at night because of the stupidly bright vehicle lights.
Age thing?
Only ask as neither my Mum nor any of her friends drive at night (youngest is late 70's), while all complain about the same thing, they also suffer with the low sun too.
Modern automatics with auto-hold don’t give the option, the brake lights are on as a “safety feature”. Similarly if there’s an electronic handbrake the brake lights are on in traffic
My Passat has auto-hold function which does indeed keep the brake lights on, however, if I activate the actual parking brake, the brake lights go off. It takes zero effort to do this.
Edit: I meant to add that I don't have to change/do anything else at that moment, just activate the 'P'! 🙂
if a modern led car is behind me, I am driving into a shadow. Rubbish, and then I slow, the led-car gets closer, I can see even less, I slow more.. etc
Yep, happened to me last night. I wasn't sure if they'd forgotten to dip, but the repeated flashes to try and get me to speed up (37-38mph in a 40, going into a residential zone) cleared that up.
I have flashbacks to Close Encounters of the Third Kind; I'll wave one past one night, and end up probed.
Cars headlights that only illuminate the area surrounding oncoming cars are great (no flashing from on-coming drivers) but they are expensive options.
I'd agree that Tesla's are terrible for their light patterns as are really large SUV. Although if you are driving a normal car (hatchbag etc...) you should try driving a really low car at night. Its terrible!
I’ve stopped driving at night because of the stupidly bright vehicle lights. At some points I can’t even see my side of the road on unlit streets/lanes, This is particularly bad when it’s raining.
Same here, I am really choosey on which roads at night I am happy to drive on, mainly dual carriageways and motorways, and lit main roads, but I avoid minor roads in the countryside after dark, especially the ones with long straights with ups and downs, when the road in front to me, in effect, disappears from view when someone with these bright glaring lights approaches, a sort of shadow, it's really disconcerting.
I never used to have a problem with night driving at all, but it makes for a long winter, especially up here in the far NW of the UK with short days and dark mornings and evenings.
Maybe we should be requiring mandatory eyesight tests every few years first? I'm not any more dazzled today than I was 15 years ago.
I only get annoyed by headlights when they're attached to an SUV behind me, as it defeats the tint on the rear view mirror. It's occasionally obvious when someone has illegally modified old headlights to take LEDs, but they're not going to be concerned about changes to the law.
How about a mandatory death penalty for people who stay on full beam when driving towards pedestrians on unlit country roads?
Agreed with a lot of the 'headlights are brighter, different colour and higher set so more dazzle happens' feeling.
I also had one the other night on a country lane where a VW ID4 with some fancy pants lights was around a slight corner with low hedges, following another car. I *think* that the VW lights were not dazzling the car in front, as they are designed to do, but the VW could not detect the two of us coming the other way and so we were totally dazzled - the car in front basically ended up stopping suddenly in middle of road.
As soon as VW rounds the corner it detected the other cars and the lights dimmed but probably 5-8 seconds later than an alert driver would have dipped from main beam.
You know they're M.A.D level lights when the car behind you is casting the shadow of your car up down left and right in front of you.
Slightly off topic but I also find it incredibly annoying when an oncoming driver 'thanks' you by flashing you with their full beam
Would much rather not be 'thanked' and retain my retinas!
I am still on H4 halogens. Fine in the old days, but if a modern led car is behind me, I am driving into a shadow. Rubbish, and then I slow, the led-car gets closer, I can see even less, I slow more.. etc.
I did the retro retrofit of Wipac quadoptic glass lenses with Osram LED's to my MG.
It's comedic how bright* they are compared to the old Lucas sealed beam units. Although what was more surprising is the cut-off of the dipped beam is actually sharper.
The Osram LED's won't be legal in most cars because the UK has no way of assessing and certifying them, but they're legal abroad and a massive improvement over bog standard H4 bulbs (brighter than nightbreakers and they don't fail in 6 months like bright halogens are prone to doing.
*and legal because pre-80's the type approval didn't specify the type of bulb used
How about a mandatory death penalty for people who stay on full beam when driving towards pedestrians on unlit country roads?
There are idiots too who park on the 'wrong' side of the road at night whith their lights on facing oncoming traffic, which is blinding.
Saying people need to get their eyes tested is fair enough, we all do, but that's not the problem for me, like many folks with specs I regularly get my vision checked and new glasses if needed, the problem is the stupid new cars wirh their stupid new lights!
It's a crazy arms race out there. The strip lights are nothing other than 'glitzy' crap - even your boggo Golf's have them now.
I use a shared path, and the strobe light brigade are out. I've a dipped light with a very distinct cut off that's aimed to light the path only, and below people's waist. The big light is used 'off road'.
Slightly off topic but I also find it incredibly annoying when an oncoming driver ‘thanks’ you by flashing you with their full beam
Would much rather not be ‘thanked’ and retain my retinas!
This is worse with LED headlights too. LEDs are INSTANTLY FULL BRIGHT, whereas a halogen bulb takes half a second or so to get to full brightness, so a quick flash with a halogen can just be a useful 'blip' of light rather than the blinding from an LED
@lowey then get them adjusted.
When I was looking for a new (to me) car it was amazing how some models consistently failed their first MOT on beam adjustment.
Also rear lights.
It’s great that you think drivers can see you form 4km away, but to anyone following 3999m or closer your 200 lumen strobe light is making it impossible to see the road or anything else (especially in the rain with wet glasses)
I've followed bikes like that and it's really disorienting to the point I couldn't really tell where they were relative to me and got a bit of target fixation which is the exact opposite of what they're supposed to do!
Maybe we should be requiring mandatory eyesight tests every few years first? I’m not any more dazzled today than I was 15 years ago.
Cool story bro. I get dazzled all the time and regularly tested, still 20/20 with no issues.
I had a weird one the other day at night, a motorbike approaching decked out with 4 front lights that looked, for a moment, more like an artic seen at a distance (ie two white lights high, two low), the spacing of the lights were a trick of the eye, til the bike passed and I realised, no, it's not a HGV!
Maybe we should be requiring mandatory eyesight tests every few years first? I’m not any more dazzled today than I was 15 years ago.
Uh huh. So what do you drive?
If it is down to eyes could you explain why I am fine when a car of a similar age/type to mine is coming towards me vs a modern suv?
Some (but not all) issues could be alleviated by adjusting the regulations so that the dipped beam angle must also take into account how far from the road the headlight is.
I tried the auto dip beam on my octavia and while it was capable, it got it wrong too many times for me to consider it reliable. For example, on motorways where opposing traffic was behind a concrete barrier it could not detect the headlights of oncoming traffic, so on the mini suns went. Lorry drivers are sitting much higher than their headlights so got dazzled. I realise pretty quick and turn them off, but in that time the other drivers has flashed, the auto system has turned them off, and my turning them off turns them back on. AAAAAARGH
Well, hopefully the TRL study will throw some light on the issue.
I've had some nights, particularly if roads are damp, where i've actually found it better to be wearing a pair of polarised sunglasses, albeit very lightly tinted ones that I can ride with on dull days/under trees/etc. Cutting out the glare and reflected light makes so much difference.
Agree on Teslas being the worst for this. If I see a car with dazzling lights, not just bright, but set too high so they seem to flicker between dipped and main beam whenever they go over a pebble, there's an 80% chance it's a Tesla. And Teslas must be about 2% of the cars on the road around here.
There's a bloke on my commute on a big adventure tourer motorcycle who has main headlight, and maybe 4 other spots positioned about the front.
Dazzles the shit out of me every day. Even when it's daylight. I'm in a van too...
It's horrible.
As a motorcyclist too, I understand the desire to be seen, but bloody nora!
It wouldn't be quite so bad if roads were actually flat, but unsurprisingly they are not, so every time there is a slight crest I get extra blinded by these LED searchlights pointing up even more.
I have a relatively low slung old car with just halogens, whilst also waiting for cataract surgery. It is absolutely horrid for me at the moment.
@lowey then get them adjusted.
You cannot in some cars! Our Leon was like this - full LED and you cannot turn them down, they are on a sensor for the cars attitude, they are electronically powered and you see them go 'up, down, settle in place' when you start the car. There was nothing to adjust them lower, or to adjust for the continent. I too found the level of them too high and we were flashed a couple of times.
Teslas have bad beam patterns, way too much dispersed light. Skoda Octavias before latest model were bad too.
Automatically switching dips and highs are hopeless in my car (2018 model year, had to switch them for manual mode) but on wifes car (2022) the adaptive headlights are excellent - curiously they are basically same car of different vintage.
If it is down to eyes could you explain why I am fine when a car of a similar age/type to mine is coming towards me vs a modern suv?
It's a combination of both for me. Newer cars and badly adjusted lights are certainly a factor but my eyesight is definitely not what it was at night even though my prescription remains unchanged. My problem is with contrast, oncoming lights seem to wash out everything around them. My car on pretty average H3 headlights on a dark road and there's no bother, throw in some oncoming headlights and it's a lot more fatiguing.
It wouldn’t be quite so bad if roads were actually flat, but unsurprisingly they are not, so every time there is a slight crest I get extra blinded by these LED searchlights pointing up even more.
exactly, the effect is worse with undulating roads--and worse still if they have defective line markings and no cat's eyes, I was driving from Brough to Kirkby Stephen at the weekend at night, an undulating A-road, but no continuous white line on the margin, plus virtually worn out and invisible white centre line markings on the road and no cat's eyes, coupled with the blindingly bright lights of the majority of oncoming vehicles I was pleased it was only a short distance I had to drive...
virtually worn out and invisible white centre line markings
I read something ages ago that claimed that painting centre lines on roads was one of the most cost effective public health interventions you could make in developing countries. It's a shame we can't manage to maintain them in the UK!
My Toyota has matrix led headlights, which seems to have stopped people flashing me compared to my old VW golf which had basic led lights that seemed to blind everyone even on dipped beam.
The system is smart enough that it switches off the beam if there's pedestrians and cyclists on the road to prevent blinding them. Same with road signs.
Thought it was going to be another useless gimmick when I first bought the car, but it's the best feature on it. Wouldn't buy another car without it. It appears to solve the problem that everyones going on about in this thread.
As a motorcyclist too, I understand the desire to be seen, but bloody nora!
Yes, my mate had (it got nicked last week) a BMW GS with all the added extra lights & yes the main lights are good enough on their own - the extras are really for off-road night riding, but GS riders... My own bike he referred to as having a candle in a chrome bowl.
I have matrix LEDs too, and they are brilliant except on dual carriageways where, as noted above, they fail to spot lorries, so on motorways and dual carriageways I turn them off.
The bit I really like is when they turn off the beam that is lighting up the offside verge about 2m before the oncoming car gets there.
A general google puts Xenon car headlights at 12,000 lumen per pair.
My toro is set for 2000 Lumen, though on the road i use it in flashing, and only on closed to traffic footpaths on full beam.
Outwith that any low powered bike light, flashing or nay are going to get lost amongst the myriad of car headlights and basically just blend into the background. So bikes to be seen effectively on the road need something that is glaringly bright
with auto-hold don’t give the option, the brake lights are on as a “safety feature”. Similarly if there’s an electronic handbrake the brake lights are on in traffic.
This annoys me as well, but on my VW if you pull the electronic handbrake on (by pulling the switch up even in auto hold) when stationary for more than a few moments it turns the brake lights off. It is habit now and the brakes release as normal as soon as you pull away.
There was nothing to adjust them lower, or to adjust for the continent.
That’s strange, on my Golf with LED dynamic lights you can adjust the height of the beam really simply with a hex head screw on the headlight unit bracket. If you don’t do too much it doesn’t affect the operation of the unit at all and does not require coding.
There was nothing to adjust them lower, or to adjust for the continent.
On VAG cars you usually do the LHD thing in the settings page on the radio. On my current car it's something like Settings > Car > Lighting > Driving on Left / Right
However if the car has nav built in it automatically adjusts this based on the location.
There is no reason that cars need their headlights on in street lit areas, the glare of headlights impedes vision for all road, pavement and cycle path users, side lights is all you need.
Cyclists not using StVZO style lights are just as bad, as are motorcycles with add on be seen LED lights - GS1200s seem notorious for this.
You cannot in some cars!
Seriously? How is that even legal?
A general google puts Xenon car headlights at 12,000 lumen per pair.
My toro is set for 2000 Lumen, though on the road i use it in flashing, and only on closed to traffic footpaths on full beam.
And what's the efficacy of that light? You're comparing a focused 2000 lumens with 12000 lumen with a wide throw. Apples and oranges.
Besides, why do you need 2000 lumens flashing at oncoming traffic? All that's doing is pissing people off, there's absolutely no need.
On VAG cars you usually do the LHD thing in the settings page on the radio. On my current car it’s something like Settings > Car > Lighting > Driving on Left / Right
However if the car has nav built in it automatically adjusts this based on the location.
Seat garage confirmed no adjustments.
Yep, qwerty is spot on on that. The amount I used to get flashed at for driving on sides was unbelievable, though. First thing I do in the family car (after turning start/stop off, obviously) is turn the lights on to sides, as the DRLs are obnoxious. Always use the handbrake at a standstill as well.
Related - the issue of EU regs requiring DRL's on front but not rear. SOOOO many drivers are not aware of this, as the same regs require dashboard illumination and so if you turn on sidelights the dash goes duller...
Our V70 had the opposite - front and rear DRL at all times and a dash which is dull generally, gets brighter on sidelights then dulls again for full night driving.
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I absolutely hate them at the moment. I have astigmatism meaning things are a lot worse as well.
A huge proportion* of the population have astigmatism. My wife keeps telling me she's got it, as if it's something special or as if I haven't got it. (I have!)
* something like 50% of everyone who should be wearing glasses have astigmatism.
Only ask as neither my Mum nor any of her friends drive at night (youngest is late 70’s), while all complain about the same thing, they also suffer with the low sun too.
My dad (in his 80s) has given up driving because of the glare from lights - in his case the problems are caused by cataracts (which he's in the process of getting treatment for).
I had a weird one the other day at night, a motorbike approaching decked out with 4 front lights that looked, for a moment, more like an artic seen at a distance (ie two white lights high, two low), the spacing of the lights were a trick of the eye, til the bike passed and I realised, no, it’s not a HGV!
Years ago I took out a motorcyclist on a large roundabout in a similair situation.
I had just been hitting golf balls at the range at Pacasham. which is near one of the M25 junction 9 adjoining roundabouts.
It was pelting with rain so I opened my side window so I could see better, even though I was getting wet. I was relaxed from the golf so not in hurry or anything.
I thought I was seeing a car further away so I pulled out, but it turned out to a a motorbike where the main light was two small lights horizontally spaced. As I could distinguish the two separate lights I had made the faulty assumtion that it was a car at a distance.
Anyway he had a soft landing as he hit me a glancing blow - I had a diesel Fiat Uno so thin panels that crumpled in easily.
We left his bike there whilst I drove him back to Kingston and we visited the police station along the way.
Regarding the strong oncoming lights, my father taught me to direct my gaze at the kerb in front, basically where the dips were pointing, and use that as a guide.
Less easy when there is no kerb, but it still works.
I have fixed this a bit by polishing the headlight covers and fitting nightsearcher 2000s or something, but its only a marginal improvement. Probably need to change the wiring loom. Anyway, utter stupidity having such a disparity in allowable light output
I fitted one of the headlamp loom kits, with relays to my 944 with H4 bulbs. It uses the output from the alternator, so a higher voltage than at the end of the lighting loom.
Also, just taken delivery of a Connect with VWs infotainment system, the headlights were aimed at maximum range, in one of the many menus. So basically aimed at oncoming drivers faces and actually worse to drive by. It should be either load sensing of on a dial.
Naming the setting maximum range is misleading too. Some will think, set it to maximum I’ll see more.
Coincidentally I received an email from my optician today regarding the subject of "glare". As I'm due to have my regular eye test on Friday It's something we'll no doubt discuss...... but I suspect it's spendy. Whether it's any good I don't know.
Re. Dirty headlights: it's been mandatory for cars that have the bright Xenon / projector lights to have auto jet washers since about 2016, for exactly that reason. They auto clean every xx number of screen wiper uses, and / time based.
Really pees me off that one. I’d take a guess at some (but not all) auto cars being more faffy to put into neutral/handbrake on than manual?
Stopping is pretty much the same, but setting off is a lot more faff due to extra steps required and not being a very ergonomic procedure.
Prerequisites before the gear stick will do anything - pressing the brake pedal, and pressing a thumb button on the side of the stick.
If you mess it up and let the car roll off in neutral then it won't go into gear until you stop, which is an unexpected and dangerous thing to do just after setting off at a green light.
I soon gave up and now keep my foot on the brake.
So about as complicated as operating accelerator/clutch/handbrake at the same time in a manual?
I've manually set my Tesla lights much lower, it's clear the factory settings are far too high. OK I can't see as far on a country lane but it's SO much safer and more pleasant for other drivers.
I also drive a 1996 Toyota Hilux and the lights are completely overwhelmed by everything modern. It's got very silly how bright lights are now.
So about as complicated as operating accelerator/clutch/handbrake at the same time in a manual?
No. It's difficult to appreciate if you haven't done it (maybe you have and your car is better).
I did it for months when I first got my auto but it's just not designed to be ergonomically operated this way. The procedure, and the controls themselves.
Manual:
1. Left foot depress clutch, hand engage gear
2. Right foot press throttle, left foot release clutch, hand release handbrake (thumb on ratchet button)
Auto:
1. Right foot press brake (safety requirement), hand release handbrake (thumb on ratchet button)
2. Hand click shifter into drive (thumb on safety button which requires an awkward hand position)
3. Move right foot off brake to press throttle
The manual one is meant to be used like that; everything falls to hand and the steps flow into each other. The auto one (being just one more logical step) just doesn't in the same way, and if you try to do it fast and miss some critical step or do it in the wrong order you either get a safety warning bell or end up rolling forward in neutral and having to stop dangerously before you can put it in gear.
I persevered for months because I didn't want to be one of those inconsiderate people, but it was just a chore and occasional cause of danger. For context I am under 40 and have done many many hours on a wide range of cars/vans and industrial/agricultural vehicles.
If it was an electronic handbrake with auto release as on newer cars I think it would be more doable.
If you’re getting blinded by brake lights at traffic lights then I’d suggest getting an eye test. They’re 21w in red: perhaps 500lm? It’s hardly 6000lm of magicshine.
Autos aren’t designed to shift into park all the time while under way. You can get park pawl lock up where stress in the prop shaft prevents the park pawl from disengaging and you end up stuck in park. Particularly on slight inclines.
A Vw DSG or ZF HP8 auto effectively shifts into neutral at standstill with your foot on the brake. If you manually select the handbrake the box thinks you’re on a hill, shifts into 1st and engages the clutch pack on the DSG in false creep mode/ starts to drag the torque converter on the HP8. It essentially thinks you’re about to set off. This reduces efficiency as the engine is under load and increases wear on the dsg’s clutch pack. The HP8 wont give a fig but you can hear the engine working harder. It’ll also disable start stop. Leaving them alone to do their thing is how they’re meant to be operated.
@matt_outandabout a lot of VW’s LED lights are not bias beamed. They’re a flat beam like US headlights and so there’s no need to make any adjustment when driving abroad. Their matrix lights are biased, but by software which used gps data to decide which objects it might be helpful to pick out and when to extend the near side beam length, or indeed offside beam length if you’re on a dual carriageway and in lane 2. 3 or 4.
The other issue, in my eyes (literally & figuratively!) is that the headlights are now predominantly at a higher level to begin with due to crossover/SUVs etc. If you drive a non-raised up car, they seem to be directly in your eyeline.
I've just switched form driving an MPV with a higher driving position to a more 'Normal Estate with a lower sat driving position, and yep, now my eyeline is ~6" lower I'm noticing the death rays more.
I'm also noticing the odd bellend that seemingly leaves high beams on and completely relies on their posh matrix LEDs auto detecting oncoming cars, which they aren't always awesome at, and I thought had been banned(?)
Anyway driving a more 'normal' height vehicle again has me noticing the blinding lights more.
Yes, what hot_fiat says.
The park pawl thing doesn't like being stressed from even the 15cm the car will roll before it catches it. Hence my use of the handbrake.
And handbrake without manually selecting neutral on mine too leaves the engine and box trying to crawl fighting against the handbrake, so even if you don't care about mechanical sympathy you need to pull the handbrake on pretty tight.
And your post reminds me of the stop start silliness, I don't quite remember exactly but it might have been something like: switches off after you brake to a stop, comes back on when you release the brake after putting on the handbrake, stops again when you press the brake so you can engage drive, then starts again when you release the brake to move off.
It could be done better and some things are just peculiarities of specific models, but these systems don't like you fighting them.
Just purchased a newer Octavia with the silly bright headlights – sometimes get flashed by people who think I’m on main beam. Sorry.
Though anyone commuting by bike using their 1500+ lumen off road searchlight needs to have a think about how that affects other road/path users as well.
You might want to manually adjust your headlights down a bit. Lots of modern cars seem to have their low beam set so far out that it’s possible to drive on unlit roads without even needing to use high beams at all. I think this is to accommodate for lazy drivers who don’t know how or when to use high beams anymore.
I don't need to wear glasses legally for driving yet but I do have a pair and it certainly helps with glare when driving at night (especially if it's also raining) but appreciate that's not the answer for everyone.
Auto-dimming and matrix head lights with an active main beam feature are increasingly becoming a problem to - some react very fast to oncoming traffic (the former dipping the whole headlight, the latter dimming specific LEDs to cut direct light onto the oncoming vehicle) but it's still not fast enough in a lot of situation. Tesla's were notorious for their system being slow to react (but I think this has improved on the last couple of years). My own car has an active main beam function, tried it once driving at night on country roads I wasn't familiar with but had to disable it after a bit as it was obvious the odd oncoming car I met was getting a split second of main beam before it reacted.