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[Closed] Have we done the “Raping of nuns” story yet?

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BBC headlines that the Pope admits clerical abuse of nuns including sexual slavery.

‘...the Catholic Church was aware of the issue and "working on it"’ and how they were ‘...forced to shut down an entire congregation of nuns who were being abused by priests’.

Feels a tad like victim blaming!!

Well surely they should have just given the nuns some support and called the police in on the priests? I’m sure that’s what would happen at my place of work if there were a bunch of abusers based there. You really couldn’t make it up.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47134033


 
Posted : 05/02/2019 11:39 pm
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This shows how extreme institutionalisation is a cancer in some circumstances. These are the sort of problems that it should not be in the powers of one man to sort out even if he has a direct line to God.


 
Posted : 05/02/2019 11:58 pm
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What bothers me, is that stuff like this doesn't even surprise me anymore.

Humans are mental.

Can we have more posts with fluffy bunnies?

*goes off to reddit/r/awww*


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 12:36 am
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I doubt it is down to one man. In the specific case mentioned those concerned will be subject to French law.

In that respect, outside of the Holy See, the Pope isn't​ much different to the head of any other large global organisation. Granted he is unlikely to be held without charge in a Japanese prison for months, but high ranking Cardinals have been arrested and convicted.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 12:47 am
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Posted : 06/02/2019 6:29 am
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I would guess that it was institutionalised .... like the abuse of children.
Don’t expect the Roman Catholic Church to do anything or find anyone important involved


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 6:56 am
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aww eddie I thought it waa gonna rip into a full on Metelica guitar when the bunnies woke up, disapoint.

The raping of any woman is absolutely vile but these people are meant to bring moral guidance, instead they violate themselves upon women, shameful.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 7:03 am
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I'm the depressingly not shocked camp too. The reaction is as expected they have a plan to follow.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 7:04 am
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These are the sort of problems that it should not be in the powers of one man to sort out

What makes you think that is what is happening in this case ?


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 7:10 am
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Just for Jekyll


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 7:12 am
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I’m the depressingly not shocked camp too.

Yip, but aren’t we all not shocked by the story ?

I don’t know the definition in Law that covers the Church as a place of work, but would be very difficult to bring any specific charges against the Pope. Further down the chain, possibly. But I’d be ruling out “corporate” actions and going for individual charges/claims against route.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 7:37 am
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Does it not run up to perverting the course of justice? Of course depending on who knew what but as the Australian inquiry showed it went all the way to the top. Many of those in very senior positions were complicit in moving priests around.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 7:43 am
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called the police in on the priests?

This never happens because religion is special.

Apparently.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 8:28 am
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Perverting the course of justice involves a deliberate act or omission with the intent of misleading a court.

Merely moving a priest around to separate an accused from a accuser isn't attempting to mislead anyone.

Before we go too far into what happened in Australia, remember that there's a court order in place prohibiting reporting on the recent conviction and therefore facts are sparse.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 8:40 am
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"This never happens because religion is special."

It did happen.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 8:44 am
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Before we go too far into what happened in Australia, remember that there’s a court order in place prohibiting reporting on the recent conviction and therefore facts are sparse.

Not sure if you mean france or Oz but the Royal commission in Oz was public and available to read in many cases. It highlighted the real amount of organisation that has gone in to the cover up and prolonging of the abuse.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 9:14 am
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Ive just spent the weekend in Rome

The Vatican was amazing, St Peters was amazing, every church you popped your head into was amazing

the sheer scale of the in your face wealth of the church (I had no idea theh vatican house dthe worlds largest art colelction) was amazing

it was also grotesque

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Im not surprised by this story at all


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 11:07 am
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“This never happens because religion is special.”

It did happen.

Yay! Progress!  😃


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 11:22 am
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I'd hope at least the clerics/priests/whoever involved were at least excommunicated as a starter, if not then it's just another example of how corrupt religion can be.


 
Posted : 06/02/2019 11:32 am

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