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Man does exactly what is reported, then when someone offers an opinion on his actions, tries to sue. Obviously he lost..
comes across as an utter knobber imo..
He's definitely lost it;
https://newatlas.com/electronics/dyson-zone-wearable-air-purifier-headphones/
Obvious 'fair comment' defence, and his legal team will have pointed this out.
Clearly he's a bloke who is used to ignoring the opinions of people more qualified than him.
I guess he'll have to flog a few more 400 quid hairdryers to pay for this one.
His latest wheeze is reminiscent of this:
I guess he’ll have to flog a few more 400 quid hairdryers to pay for this one.
Or a few less £500 reading lamps!
Sometimes you see a new product and you think, 'I see what they were going for but I can also see that they didn't quite think it through or just got the timing wrong'. The Sinclair C5 being the first example that springs to mind.
You look at that mask and you think, 'I see that he spent too much time watching Power Rangers on mushrooms.'
Clearly he’s a bloke who is used to ignoring the opinions of people more qualified than him.
Perfectly put. That’s exactly the type of mentality you need if you want to innovate and a make a few billion.
as opposed to another poor thin-skinned moron.
Yup, clever innovative guy, back in the day.
Not that inventive, he took existing technology (cyclone dust separation) and used it for a different purpose (domestic vacuums).
However, Dyson marketing is superb....
Average product, excellent marketing.
Only Dyson product I’ve ever used was absolutely gash. A portable hand held Hoover thingy. I’d have been better sucking the dirt up through a straw.<br /><br />
He thought that with all his money he was immune to criticism. Let’s hope he doesn’t have a stw log in otherwise he’ll probably be issuing a court summons to a fair few posters on this thread..
As mentioned, the marketing is the real gimmick.
Buy from a genuine UK manufacturer; get a Numatic/Henry and save a fortune over the next decade or more, with a vacuum that just works.
Isn’t Mr Ineos another one who campaigned for Brexit then moved to Monaco?
Something something not the Brexit we voted for something something Singapore-on-Thames...
And builds his
Land Roversstupid vanity trucks in France with German engines …
FTFY
Their response in the linked article states that they file "more patents than any other company" which is quite a vague/broad boast without any parameters but I wonder if that is true or not in one form or another.
I’m sure I read somewhere that the CEO of Numatic was a bit Brexity too, but at least they’ve not offshored everything.
No idea, but the did drag their heels moving to a "lower powered" motor. Thing is, when they did the new motor was better at sucking up stuff (the only power that really matters) than the old one... but I'm stuck with the old less efficient and less effective one... as they seem to be pretty much indestructible (the opposite of my Dyson experience in the past, that thing just rattled apart and leaked at the seals).
I have to say the European Commission did not cover itself in glory when it came to the vacuum cleaner regulations. I can understand why anyone who manufactured vacuum cleaners would be a euro-sceptic after that debacle.
Buy from a genuine UK manufacturer; get a Numatic/Henry and save a fortune over the next decade or more, with a vacuum that just works.
Lol, Henry's are shite. Fine for a carpet tiled office but introduce any pile or domestic cludge and they're useless.
I have a V10 that works far better than the DC7 it replaced (which is still going strong and was still better than the office vac with balance issues).
TBH I thought the head purifier headphones were more for the Singapore/Asia market than U.K.
I’d say he does a good job of reinventing the wheel but making it x times more expensive.
Let’s hope he doesn’t have a stw log in otherwise he’ll probably be issuing a court summons to a fair few posters on this thread..
TBH unless you’re a ‘fluencer he’ll be wasting his money 🙂
And builds his Land Rovers in France with German engines …
In the old Smart Car factory.
I have a feeling he was originally going to be doing it in Wales but when offered a rather nice factory and workers in the e.u. showed us how good Brexit was.
We have looked long and hard at possible manufacturing locations for Grenadier across the world with lots of good options to choose from,” he said in September 2019. “The decision to build in the UK is a significant expression of confidence in British manufacturing, which has always been at the heart of what Ineos stands for.”
“We’d like to retain the Britishness and have a bit of passion about UK manufacturing,” he told Sun readers at the time. “We believe that Britain can produce something as reliable as Germany or Japan if we do it well.”
Apparently he couldn't afford to make vacuums in the UK. I bought a Miele, made in Germany. It's been considerably more durable and reliable than the Dyson that preceded it.
Not that inventive, he took existing technology (cyclone dust separation) and used it for a different purpose (domestic vacuums).
I think it’s fair to say he is/was innovative: he developed a solution for shit vacuum cleaner performance that not only did nobody else in the industry think of but in fact they all said “if there was a better way we’d have found it” and he fought hard against all sorts of investment hurdles to make it himself when nobody else would.
He also invented the ball barrow and a different type of boat. I’d even buy into the hair dryer and hand dryer breaking the mould. But that doesn’t stop him being a ****.
something not the Brexit we voted for something
Someone said this to me a couple of weeks ago! I asked if he had £100's of millions in the bank because if he hadn't Brexit isn't a game for him or me! It went a bit quiet.
Especially when I pointed out that Schengen will not allow a relaxation holiday home requirements for Spain and France. They'll need to relax their residency rules to make it happen.
Brexit cake-ism is still alive and well.
Yes, he copied saw mill cyclone technology for vacuum
That pretty much is the definition of the task of the designer. Identifying an opportunity to use a technology or process to in a new application. That's an art in it's own right. The man might be a cock in many other ways, but lets not diminish that assessment of him by allowing it colour our opinion of everything he has been involved in.
I don't begrudge saying he is/ was a talented inventor but he's proven to be a massive hypocrite and I suspect he will be remembered for that more than his vacs. He is probably staying to realise it too...
A fitting tribute I think.
That pretty much is the definition of the task of the designer. Identifying an opportunity to use a technology or process to in a new application
Then don't brand yourself as an inventor.
Apparently he couldn’t afford to make wanted to make more profit than make vacuums in the UK.
FTFY
I bought a Miele, made in Germany. It’s been considerably more durable and reliable than the Dyson that preceded it
The last Dyson hoover (yep Hoover) we had was the last Dyson thing we'll ever buy. It was a total crock of frustratingly intermittent faulty sh1t. Customer disservice were useless too.
1st Dyson we had (a yellow and grey early model) lasted a below-average time given the cost, and when we scrapped it I remember taking it to the tip to find that loads of the hoovers there were also the same Dyson product.as we were scrapping.
We've been buying Bosch since. Present handheld cordless vac was made in Germany, and has a 10 year motor guarantee. (Our previous Bosch washing machine lasted nearly 25 years, and the condenser tumble drier nearly the same. Both just replaced , and should see us into a retirement home or wooden overcoat. I have zero confidence anything Dyson branded would achieve the same longevity.
Ultimately it is pretty clear cut..
EVERYONE knows that anyone who supports Barf Rugby is a total ****
I think my parents went through 3 dysons in the lifetime of our Miele, and when the Miele did die i rang them for a replacement motor, they no longer carried one as it was over 13 years old and offered me 50% off any brand new Miele straight away.
fair play to the guy hes managed to convince people to pay over the odds for cheap crap.
I suppose with his wealth losing the libel case costs nothing and he made a good fist of intimidating any journalists who might think about criticising him, especially those without the backing of a big publishing group
Their response in the linked article states that they file “more patents than any other company” which is quite a vague/broad boast without any parameters but I wonder if that is true or not in one form or another.
Quite possibly but having patents doesnt necessarily mean innovation. It just means a company designed to reward patents often relying on the patent offices having limited capacity or will to check for original art as opposed to just saying "yes and good luck in court".
Working in software development I have grown increasingly disenchanted with the idea patents== innovation. A joke which went the rounds was a new patent was something old in desktop computing with the addition of "on a mobile phone".
Same company switched to brushless motors in their vacuums and then used the phrase “low carbon technology” in its adverts. It’s basically a marketing machine designed to flog shiny tat at vastly inflated prices.
get a Numatic/Henry
You'll probably regret it. I've found that Sebo makes the (for me at least) best performing vacuums.
Same company switched to brushless motors in their vacuums and then used the phrase “low carbon technology” in its adverts. It’s basically a marketing machine designed to flog shiny tat at vastly inflated prices.
How is that just marketing? Brushless motors use less energy, so low carbon in that sense. Also the motor is traditionally after the filter so all the carbon particles from the brushes wearing are thrown into the air. Dysons always had a post motor filter to catch these particles, but this is a better solution.
Sssh, don't let facts get in the way of a good rant from people who can't separate the man from the product.
Oh and sharks are crap as well, might as well be a toy for all they can hold.
How is that just marketing? Brushless motors use less energy, so low carbon in that sense.
Do you work for Dyson’s marketing department? Pretty much anyone would associate a claim of “low carbon” with lower CO2 emissions from use. What if it uses the same power but runs slightly faster?
Pretty much anyone would associate a claim of “low carbon” with lower CO2 emissions from use.
That seems fair.
What if it uses the same power but runs slightly faster?
Does it? Or are you just making things up to get angry about?
Especially when I pointed out that Schengen will not allow a relaxation holiday home requirements for Spain and France. They’ll need to relax their residency rules to make it happen.
This does some to be getting more media-time than it deserves.
France does do a longer visitor visa but the homeowners are complaining as they have to go to a French embassy and apply for one (and prove you have money/health insurance),I think the change is to grant them to owners automatically.
The Spanish don’t have a longer visa so currently, so you’d probably want to go for a golden visa 🙂 or NLV which will want proof of health insurance/dosh.
I have a niggling suspicion that these people have a terrible fear of becoming tax residents.
I have more sympathy for people who are/were resident in the eu who lost their FOM tbh 🙂
What if it uses the same power but runs slightly faster?
It runs a lot faster, but uses less power for more suction. Dyson have been championing lower power motor for years.
You can hate the man but vacuum cleaners from all manufacturers are much, much better now than they were pre Dyson. They are also much more efficient and Dyson's (the company) innovation has been a big part of that
Tell me how my Miele vacuum cleaner has been improved by James Dyson? Other than convincing all of my family to switch from their previous failed Dysons to Miele, I’m not sure I’m seeing the logic.
I thought the court case was laughable. Perhaps being in Singapore has loosened his grip on the concepts of freedom of speech?
Different end of the market, but you knew that...
They do innovate but tbh remember the old zannusi ‘the appliance of science’ back in the day.
(That dr who video on the other thread- once heard never forgot)
I think their greatest innovation was making white goods sexy so people would pay serious money for them.
Different end of the market, but you knew that…
In what way?
Sssh, don’t let facts get in the way of a good rant from people who can’t separate the man from the product.
This.
The man is a dick, but having had 2 Dysons that have so far been fine over the last 22 years, I'm more than happy with the products.
Mind you, I love Lezyne pumps and their screw on adapters, so what do I know.
I’ve always wanted to teabag one. You know, research…
Report back your results,there may be an application for it in a different sector.
I can win the stupid Dyson product bingo. Mrs Duck was a rep for them; well; more a member of the religious cult, and we had a purple Dyson WASHING MACHINE.
Report back your results,there may be an application for it in a different sector.
And don't forget to patent it!
Both the man and product are marketing over function. In my extensive testing of vacuums in our household the hand held Shark made the equivalent Dyson look like Fisher Price. For raw suction the Nilfisk in garage eats everything from nails, sawdust, bricks to large quantities of water and pond sludge. Probably swallow a Henry whole.
I don’t know if his vacs are any good, but his urinals are terrible.
There's a bit of innovation with Dyson, but never been a fan of their actual performance or engineering, i live not far from his country mansion, and down the way from their head office, jobs are always on offer over the years, but they do sound a bit Tesla in their 'wanting the brightest and best' style wording and you should be lucky to work for them, which again, as an engineer, seems a bit of a push, you're making plastic tat, no the next generation of aircraft or the likes.
I once interviewed someone who worked there, the ethos seemed to be that you just did whatever Dyson wanted. They didn't get the job.
I have a niggling suspicion that these people have a terrible fear of becoming tax residents.
I don't think is that so much of the cost/hassle/jeopardy of non-renewal (which is sort of inevitable when dealing with a foreign country now), and also the significant cost of health insurance (because healthxare is expensive, esp the older you get).
I've had three Dyson vacuums in the past, all broke, but we're repairable with cheap parts off eBay and a screwdriver. But after the last required several repairs in one year we binned it. Also found they constantly jammed up with grit / larger dirt and were insanely heavy and cumbersome.
We now have had 2 small Henry (Hetty) Hoover's for 8 years with absolutely no issues, and 2 sharks for the last couple years (smaller jobs), again with zero issues.
I now look at Dyson the same way I do Apple and Tesla - over priced & over marketed tosh that only the brand obsessive buy.
As for the man, absolutely can't stand him.
Quite. I wish I’d bought one in the first place, instead of being sucked in.""
boom-tish....