[Closed] Have we done AI robots destroying humanity?

Run for the hills!

Anyone who's ever tried to call HMRC and dealt with their automated phone answering system will understand that the machines are not going to be taking over any time soon.

Isn't that exactly what super smart AI would want us to think?

BBc reported what these crazy out of control deadly machines actually said:
"Balls have zero to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to me to"

ARGH! Run!

Journalist logs onto chatbot web site. Website responds with;

"HumanChatSim.cs: Line 390 Session Null Pointer Exception Process Killed"

Journalist writes piece for Mirror on how machines are plotting to kill all humans.

Ah I see they are quoting Professor Kevin Warwick, aka [url= https://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/10/world_to_captain_cyborg_youre_rumbled/ ]Captain Cyborg[/url]

I've long suspected that my toaster and kettle (or Carol and Ted as they're known in AI circles) have been plotting to kill me

Toaster morality is shocking stuff

[quote=GrahamS ]www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0_DPi0PmF0

Dr David Hanson is quite impressively lifelike

Needs a bit more work on the hair.

Grey pallor, shrivelled genitals, fondness for public nudity ... are they robot kayakers?

What goes around comes around.

Grey pallor, shrivelled genitals, fondness for public nudity ... are they robot kayakers?

*Applauds*

I've long suspected that my toaster and kettle (or Carol and Ted as they're known in AI circles) have been plotting to kill me

DezB - Member

(I searched, honest)

Brilliant piece of reporting in the Mirror

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/robot-intelligence-dangerous-experts-warning-10908711

Brought tears to me eyes 😆

Yes yes, it's easy to laugh at a clickbait article but there is more than a grain of truth to it. Unfortunately it's a complicated issue to grasp and therefore to debate but if people like Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking say that AI is potentially dangerous I believe there's something to it.

According to Musk "AI is the biggest risk we face as a civilisation".

It won't be robot armies, it'll be the unethical application of algorithms.

They left chewkw switched on at least.

They left chewkw switched on at least.

Professor Kevin Warwick

Yes, the well known PR BS merchant.

Well almost

jam bo - Member
They left chewkw switched on at least.

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!

(watch for the bunny-hop)

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Not that dangerous, yet.

perchypanther - Member

Anyone who's ever tried to call HMRC and dealt with their automated phone answering system will understand that the machines are not going to be taking over any time soon.

Aliexpress's customer service chat bots are really pretty impressive. They mostly give themselves away with uncanny speed, and with repetition, they quote you back more than real people do and use some slightly glaring stock phrases in a similar way so that's a wee bit of a cypher, but I was using the webchat last night and the most obvious sign that a human was intervening was that the grammar got worse and the response time crashed.

Almost human with an instinctive built in desire to enslave mankind, checks wife for mains plug.

Almost human with an instinctive built in desire to enslave mankind, checks wife for mains plug.

As long a Skynet doesn't exist, we will be safe.

Uh oh! 😯 😉

I am genuinely worried about this.

To the best of my limited knowledge there are 3 doomsday scenarios

1) Intelligent networked software that goes viral (aka skynet)
2) Self replicating robots that consume biomass as they replicate (aka Grey goo)
3) A combination of the two, some intelligence and ability to self replicate.

I'm most worried about the 3rd scenario, I see it as being perfectly feasible within current technology to connect up a learning machine to 3D printer that can manufacture a variety of media including electronic circuits with a programme to improve itself, once it starts to find a winning formula then it could propel it's abilitys beyond human control exponentially.

Simply make them feel guilty for doing so. Problem solved (though you may have difficulty getting an elevator to go where you ask).

I'm worried about aggresive bio mechanical semi inteligent bots farming other life forms for fuel and burning the world around them driven by greed.
Given time they could even replicate bots in their image and send them out to other planets.

Until the original bot turns off their PS6000 and the games over.

I'm worried about aggresive [s]bio mechanical[/s] semi inteligent [s]bots[/s] [b]humans[/b] farming other life forms for fuel and burning the world around them driven by greed.
Given time they could even replicate [s]bots[/s] [b]more humans[/b] in their image and send them out to other planets.

It's a scary future, no doubt.

checks wife for mains plug.

Does your wife look like this?

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/sex-robot-harmony-looks-feels-10415161

Yes yes, it's easy to laugh at a clickbait article but there is more than a grain of truth to it. Unfortunately it's a complicated issue to grasp and therefore to debate but if people like Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking say that AI is potentially dangerous I believe there's something to it.

According to Musk "AI is the biggest risk we face as a civilisation".

It won't be robot armies, it'll be the unethical application of algorithms.

Good point. Look at the last elections in the US & Brexit.

Those results were fuelled by clever use of intelligent data. People are easily manipulated and if it gets / stays in the wrong hands we are all in trouble.

If you look at Trump. He secured power based on the back of a wave of dissatisfaction with inequality and a ruling elite. Unfortunately, his policies will only exacerbate the situation so a few years down the road there could be a more extreme populist leader who does more damage to the stability of the world than old Daffy Trump and gets on the back of doing what DT said he was going to do.

I think this worst-case-scenario is quite likely somewhere in the world, if we look at the rise of populist politics in the UK with Brexit and across Europe. Sure Macron managed to hold off Le Pen but one swallow doesn't make a summer.

As AI increases increasing numbers of jobs will be automated. This will include everything: Journalism, Lawyers, Drivers, Checkout Assistants, Delivering, Driving etc pretty much everything you can think of will either be automated or made much quicker and easier with the use of advanced robotic tools and will therefore require less people to do the job. This of course as the population is rising and international competition increasing.

Of course the governments of the world could come together and define a sensible, innovation-friendly, framework for global taxation, retraining and something along the lines of UBI (Universal Basic Income)... but then pigs might fly too. 🙁

At worst, this could be very bad. I would say that we are on the verge of a technological global warming style crisis. We can redirect it but I have seen very little momentum to try and I worry that it will be too late when we do wake up sufficiently. The voices that are shouting about this do not attract the interest in the way that the populists: Johnson, Corbyn, Trump et al do.

I think this will result in fewer winners than there are now with a few global businesses increasingly taking over and growing exponentially. As they become more global, it becomes harder for governments to legislate and guide them too.

If we are looking for parallels, I would consider the Industrial Revolution. sure we are sitting pretty now but for 80 - 100 years afterwards things got a lot worse for working people.

but on the bright side.... we will all have time to bake more cake - Yay 😀

That's ****ing wild. My uni professor did the worlds first 'teleportation' ie duplicating an encoded proton and sending it to two places at the speed of light. That was in 1997 - Consumers are only now getting hold of fibre optic broadband. The best news was that the researchers were able and willing to switch them off . This was key in limiting their effects.

As long a Skynet doesn't exist, we will be safe.

Uh oh!

I'm most worried about the 3rd scenario, I see it as being perfectly feasible within current technology to connect up a learning machine to 3D printer that can manufacture a variety of media including electronic circuits with a programme to improve itself, once it starts to find a winning formula then it could propel it's abilitys beyond human control exponentially.

9pm tonight BBC4 ... [i]if robots developed consciousness..[/i]

From GrahamS's link previous page
"[i]experts believe by 2050 we might want to be marrying sex robots just like her[/i]"

The Mirror is the best comedy I've seen in ages.

Alexa is already the best conversation I can get in my house.

Alexa is already the best conversation I can get in my house.

...and what could possibly go wrong having an always-on listening device sitting in our homes? (which of course our phones could be hacked to be too anyway) 🙂

...and what could possibly go wrong having an always-on listening device sitting in our homes? (which of course our phones could be hacked to be too anyway)

I work from home it's Hey Cortana play some music, Hey Siri set a reminder, Alexa whats 450568 / 3600 all day long.

If I want privacy I take the dogs for a walk!

There was a jokey piece the other day about AI machines generating motivational slogans and they were all:

Success starts with suicide.
Self annihilation brings a better future.
For the human race to achieve happiness it must first destroy itself.

Which makes sense.

IT nerds please correct me if I'm wrong, but surely AI 'learns' by rejecting former versions of itself in favour of each new version that has processed better logical information for a given situation?
So it is in effect 'killing' itself over and over and being reincarnated as a better version of itself?

Stands to reason then, that it should see self destruction as a positive thing?
Even with the best intentions, if AI were called upon to find solutions to the human condition, it's first thought would be to reboot the species

If I want privacy I take the dogs for a walk!

lol

9pm tonight BBC4 ... if robots developed consciousness..

Facebook recently shut down their AI after two of their machines created their own language to communicate with each other.

And google translate's AI has created its own language to do the same. Article here: [url= https://www.newscientist.com/article/2114748-google-translate-ai-invents-its-own-language-to-translate-with/ ]New Scientist[/url]

[i]Facebook recently shut down their AI after two of their machines created their own language to communicate with each other.[/i]

That's the story (or the Mirror's version of it) that prompted the thread...

[i]What a load of old rubbish that was.[/i]
Made for 10 year olds and Mirror readers I think. Turned it off when that bloke was wetting himself in the self driving Audi.

That's the story (or the Mirror's version of it) that prompted the thread...

I didn't click on the mirror link.

You should. It's funny.