[Closed] Had my first run in with a "terrortorial Parker"

One of those i just explain that the road is a free for all and if they think its theirs I will be happy to see the land registry proof that they own the highway.
That said there is very little to be gained form deliberately antagonising a neighbour.

My neighbours the opposite , she was appologising for her son in law parking infront of my house.

I said fill yer boots , i dont own the road just dinnae block my drive.

To be honest. They parked there thinking it was the best place as they got here late. The neighbour was aggressive from the off. This is why I laughed at him. Nowt queer as folk.

My last house (semi) had room to park two cars outside, one in front of ours and one in front on the neighbours. The only time I got slightly annoyed was when a visitor would park right in the middle and half on the pavement.

There was really no need for it, the road was wide enough to double park if necessary. Selfish bastards.

Nutter next door bought an old banger, taxed / insured / MOT'd it and them dumped it half on the pavement outside his own house to ensure no one else could park there.

Used to make me laugh every time I drove past it.

It'd have ended up several yards down the road blocking the junction round here.....

Strangely enough I do own the "road" in front of my house - not just our drive, but also the bit which us and the next two houses use to access their houses and drives, and which they sometimes use for parking. I suppose if I really wanted to I could tell them not to park there, but I'm not a grumpy old git (well not about my neighbours parking anyway).

Embarrassingly I'll admit to being a territorial parker. A bit of background though, we're a house of two drivers - one car, one can. Neighbours either side - one has three drivers and four cars, the other also has three drivers and have a van and three cars. We all have a garage - but it's not big enough to get a medium sized car in. We all have a driveway big enough for one car.

There is just enough road space in front of the house for a LWB van and a car if needed. I always used to park so that if needed someone else could park in behind our van. However, it seems that whenever one of the neighbours has visitors and we're not in their visitors park so that it's only possible to get one vehicle outside our house (and put the car up on the path which isn't needed at all). It really annoys me! When I have visitors I tell them where is best to park so that we don't annoy any one else on the street.

I've started to park a little more inconsiderately so that no one else can park outside without blocking next doors drive. I know it's wrong and petty but I can't help it!

In a couple of years time Jnr is likely to be driving and both neighbours are each likely to have another driver too. We're considering dropping the kerb outside the house and turning the tiny bit of front garden in to a parking space to help things out a bit.

Lol just come back from being out and he's outside his house parked mostly on the pavement. Wouldn't mind he has a driveway and garage for his..... One car lol. What a sad man. He'll be crying when the kids round here scratch it riding their bikes
past it etc.

Just realised the weird auto correct typo in the title too.

I thought the title spelling was deliberate. I got mildly irritated when I got home the other evening to find sister of neighbours had parked right across my driveway, which made getting the car in a tad awkward. I had obviously better spray the drop kerb with luminous paint to make it more visible to dullards.

Is pavement parking legal round your way? If not, shop him to the plod.

Parking across a driveway in unacceptable. Parking outside someone's house is perfectly acceptable. Wtf is wrong with people that this needs explaining time after time?

^+LOTS.

Parking across a driveway in unacceptable. 

Sometimes I have a huge desire to buy a ratty old Land Rover.

I do think they must be missing something on their life to actually get that riled about it.

One of my neighbours puts cones out... I did get pissed when someone parked 3 campervans outside my house and opposite and then didn't move them for over 6 months. Don't mind cars that move regularly but when one just doesn't move its bloody inconsiderate.

Eventually they were moved when they started to be vandalised. Not by me I might add.

When I lived in Paris you always left the handbrake off because you knew somebody would shove your car with their bumper to create space.

My girlfriends Granda has a problem with the neighbour parking his works van even slightly in front of his house (very considerate neighbour, tries not to but next house along not so much so van sometimes a bit further across), which is odd given her Granda has a double drive but no car! Sadly it tipped him over the edge a little while ago and the old guy went wandering/missing for 8 or so hours. Doctor diagnosed him with some condition (don't know details) but it stressed the family out a lot, as for an old guy he is otherwise sound and sharp of mind.

"My girlfriends Granda has a problem with the neighbour parking his works van . . . . . the old guy went wandering/missing for 8 or so hours . . . . otherwise sound and sharp of mind"

I'd say the 8 to 10 hr thing trumps the sound of mind thing.

livedin a flat in a terraced stret, when i was poor, elderley old dear next door woke me up one morning at 05.30 to tell me to move my car as her daughter was due to arrive at 09.00 hrs and required my space as it was hers.

I pointed out i didnt own a car, or have licence at the time, she then proceeded down the street to knock other neighbours up.

and a top tip , if you want to get rid of parkers outside your house, mix bread with cooking oli or chip lard, and throw on car roof and bonnet, birds will descend like alfreds hitcock the birds and peck the car to bits, and leave a nice oily mess.

Have you ever actually tried that without getting your face smashed in...

Just seen Gangsta Granny this afternoon. Great seeing the Parker getting his comuppance 🙂

Also, like what you did with 'P'arker...

I can see why it is frustrating, my next door neighbour has I think around 6 cars. Why should I park 40 yards up the road because they can't stop breeding. But like you say it's not my road but I still feel put out after a long day at work.

I share a driveway with two other houses; its a narrow lane that then branches off into separate parking spots outside each house. Never really have any problems these days but when one of the houses had a lot of lodgers living there I'd occasionally come back to find that apparently fit surfer dude types couldn't be bothered to park down the road and walk 20m to their mates house but instead had to park right outside. This would stop me from getting to my own driveway (and my neighbours would also be affected). I just used to park behind them and go indoors. Cue a sheepish knock on the door when they wanted to leave which I would always ignore for at least 10 minutes before answering. They soon learned not to do it.

My brother in law moved to a guite terraced street in Bath. He couldn't park outside his own house so parked further up the street. The guy who owned the house it was parked outside came out to tell him to mive on as it was his space and my bil, notorious for his short temper and fouls mouth told him to F off you C, and wandered off.
Totally unremarkable up to the point I moved in next door to the guy he'd sworn at who then proceded not to talk to me for 4 years once he'd made the connection. Made me s**** though!

Have you ever actually tried that without getting your face smashed in...

neighbour of my mates did it to my car, and a few others he got evicted,

I lived in inner-east Sydney for a while and parking was at a premium. The bloke two doors up paid a mint to have a "driveway" built into the kerb outside his house. He didn't actually have a driveway on his own land - just the lowered kerb, then the footpath and then the side of his house. All the neighbours thought it was hugely funny to park over his "drive" even when there were other spots just to get another rant out of him.

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Serious social problems cars are.

People are now extending their properties as they're unable to upgrade to larger houses due to unavailability or expense. This means drives are getting built over or garages turned into additional rooms.

Children are staying at home longer due to affordability issues for first time buyers. Cars are cheap so everyone owns one but nowhere to park them. The streets are now becoming a dumping ground to the detriment of the roads and to children that at one time could play in them.

Pot holes have developed initially from shoddy backfill after mains replacement but because a two way street has now developed into a slalom course the continuous wear from heavy four wheel drive vehicles and the generally larger, heavier modern cars that we now have driving at their high speeds as the drivers try to get to work on time means roads are dangerous for cyclists, pedestrians (drivers go on kerbs to get through a space that doesn't exist), children who lack the space to let off steam and even foundations of nearby houses as the vibrations reverberate through the street.

These are all very real problems that has got increasingly worse within the past seven years.

Down my road is a taxi driver that has four vehicles parked along the street, a labourer who has two cars and a lorry. There's many others but where's this problem going to end? Do people see it as a problem? Will it get worse or better? The recent trend round here suggests that we'll have more cars on the street as more people are extending their houses.

Anyway that's the parking don't get me started on the smell of diesel fumes. More and more diesel cars around these days and as a daily bicycle commuter living outside London I couldn't bare to imagine what it's like commuting in London. Cycling's not only hazardous because of crazed car drivers but also the fumes their emitting aswell.

Somebody somewhere needs to put a stop to our obsession with cars.

Cars are causing friction with people who should otherwise be friends because that's when good neighbours become good friends.

I've no issue with people parking in front of my garden. The issue is just a few inches one way and its impossible to J-reverse a car onto the drive. It's ALWAYS a few inches out so I end up parking up the road probably parking in someone's sacred spot 😀

This quote from [i]The Fall of Public Man[/i] by Richard Sennett seems appropriate:

"Today, we experience an ease of motion unknown to any prior urban civilization, and yet motion has become the most anxiety-laden of daily activities. The anxiety comes from the fact that we take unrestricted motion of the individual to be an absolute right. The private motorcar is the logical instrument for exercising that right, and the effect on public space, especially the space of the urban street, is that the space becomes meaningless or even maddening unless it can be subordinated to free movement. The technology of modern motion replaces being in the street with a desire to erase the constraints of geography."

The motoring industry has sold the idea of door to door convenience and freedom of movement, and by buying a car they think that they've paid for that right.

When I was living in Edinburgh I drove to work and parked on a street (near Kings Buildings). One day I found a number of cones outside a house in the stretch of road I usually parked. I thought f*** that and parked inside the cones. When I got back I found a shitty note on my windscreen I tore it up and drove off.

Next day I parked again nearby and when I was leaving the car a lady came out and aplogised for the note she'd left. She said she'd acted hastily because she had been stressed by having to carry her handicapped son from the end of the road due to not being able to park closer.

I crawled away under the nearest stone ...

A few years back our neighbour bought and sold old bangers and had God knows how many littering the road (Victorian terrace street). He used to twitch his curtains waiting until me or my house mate went out then run out and move one of the cars into the spot as it was more convenient. We sometimes just pretended to go out drive up the road a bit then reverse back into the space just to see the look on his face.
We have a space of sorts in the alley way at the rear of the house and use this as there's never anywere to park but our neighbours have now also taken to using it...... It's actually on our property (I think?). Not said anything to them yet but I had to actually lift my bike over his car last week when he parked about 8 inches away from the back gate.

Uh oh, I'm slightly concerned that I may be the neighbour that's parking by your back gate Donks 😳

You don't live in a slightly run down seaside town in Devon by any chance?

Pleaderwilliams have a read of John Adams essays on Hypermobility, a more academic treatment of the same concept.

I think Japan has a process where you have to demonstrate you own space to store a car before you can buy one.

Round here in some streets up to 2/3 of the roadway is used for car storage, denying use of space for movement or recreation. Vehicle storage is a serious social issue.

I think Japan has a process where you have to demonstrate you own space to store a car before you can buy one.

I like this idea (4/5 car driveway here.....)

Wait for him to drive to the shops then park your car outside his house...just for giggles like...

GET ORF MY LAND!
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....M'LADY!

My neighbour threatened to key my car ("Cars are very easily damaged here...") if I parked outside his house. Response from the police: "Don't park outside his house, then."

Should key his car and remind him he should have heeded his own warning.

Would definitely be a candidate for buying a decrepit van and just leaving it there just for the fun of it.

When I lived in a cul-de-sac there was parking on one side of the road only, as it wasnt wide enough. You could just about get away with parking half on the pavement on the opposite side if you folded your mirrors in.
One day some random car appears and parks in the road on the opposite side from the parking side and just leaves it there. Nobody could get past, so it was effectively blocking half the street.
Reported to the Police and the Council who did the square root of f all. Simply not interested that people couldnt get past.
I wonder what would have happened if a fire engine needed to get access.

I can see both sides...I cannot abide territorial parkers, however in my street it's an issue. We don't have a driveway so we have to park on the road, which ordinarily is fine, our neighbour has a driveway, but never, ever parks two of their three cars on their own drive and always nicks "our" spot. The people four doors down are also having parking war with their own neighbours, so the loser of that dispute ends up parked outside our house the minute our next door neighbours vacate the spot.

I don't want to be a dick, but my car has already been damaged by a hit and run when parked 100 yards away, plus MrsPJM - a University lecturer - has a wonky back and having to lug a load of books back and forth regularly is taking a toll.

How do I successfully resolve this without there being further bad feeling around the neighbourhood?

Do as the aussies and fit a roo bar.....even yer regular hatch backs have em....

Make belting nudge bars.

We did have an incident where an old giffer in his golf parked between my drive way and the single track road end ..... Illigal
in its self but also a nuiscence for every one entering or exiting the road due to the distance. I was working in the garage and said he would be better moving his car up the road a bit.

Got an " i pay my road tax i can park where i like" and he dandered off up the road.

So when the farmer came in to see who owned the silver golf he just clipped with his trailer cause it was parked in a very silly spot, i told him the story and we agreed hear no evil see no evil.

When said giffer came back and went nuts at me. I simply said - do you see any green cars on my drive, maybe next time you wont park in a stupid place.

[quote=bigyinn ]I wonder what would have happened if a fire engine needed to get access.

No idea how true it is*, but I heard (in relation to a narrow road with parking both sides with a gap supposedly too narrow for a fire engine back when I was a kid) that the fire[s]men[/s]fighters would all jump out and roll cars onto their sides to make room.

*probably not

Never been riled enough to complain. Had to politely ask a neighbour to get her visitor to move their car once.

I may be being unreasonable but pulling up and parking infront of someone's garage is just a tad inconsiderate really.

Only other thing that really winds me up are the idiots that park on the opposite side of the road to everyone else when there's only room for parking on one side, it's not like the extra couple of steps you'd have to take will kill them.

How do I successfully resolve this without there being further bad feeling around the neighbourhood?

move house and buy somewhere with off-road parking that you own.

We don't get the 'parking in front of our house' thing much (mainly because ours is laid out like a funnel with the narrow bit being our drive so we have no frontage to be parked in front of apart from the dropped kerb to the drive).

But we have a near neighbour who park their many cars all over the place, fully on the pavement etc (so much so I have taken to clambering through their hedge and through their garden when trying to get past).

Belligerent, me?

Yes.

johndoh - have you taken up climbing?
Did you forget to take your harness off coming home?
Can't for the life of me remember how those marks ended up down the side of their car(s)....

😈

It really does nark me though - they sometimes park two or three cars fully on the pavement - and it is a narrow pavement so it fully blocks it.

There was a spate of vandalism a few years back at the other house (well the roads around it).
Hedge hopping, running over cars, etc. Usually on a friday night.
The road has a co-op, chinky, kebab house and Offy at one end and a social club and big park at the other.
A lot of the usual suspects who continually parked on the pavement - I mean fully on the pavement got their cars written off.
Roofs properly concave, windscreen edges bent, etc.
Stopped after a while due to the Police being seen - also stopped the parkers.
Really surprising how many started using the garages they all have at the rear.
Admittedly it forced the Council into sorting out the access road to the rear (it could take 20mins just to negotiate all the crap).
Getting worse again now but there's a fair few owners/tenants that are post "parkour gate" 😆

Would hate for your cul de sac to experience such a spate of incidents.....

"The road has a ... chinky"

Welcome to the 1970s.

Cycling down a road in Hebden Bridge I came across a long note written on a car windscreen, the jist was 'please dont outside our house as we volunteer for the mountain rescue and need to get to our car quickly. I hope you understand this important work and keep this space clear etc etc'. Accompanied with lots of '!'

The note writer obviously assumed the person had a lesser role in society and I question using such a tactic but hey.

Some years ago we lived very close to a town centre and parking was always a nightmare around there. Fortunately we had a drive but we also had a space outside the house which we used to use whenever possible to keep the drive free in case friends or family visited. We never obsessed about the space though because neighbours also needed it as well.

One Saturday I noticed someone had parked across our drive and I was a bit concerned as I was expecting the wife back with a heavy load of shopping. I went out to the car and saw the door was unlocked and the keys were still in the ignition. I pushed the car down the road and round the corner and let it go down a slight incline. I watched it smash into a tree about 80 metres down the road.

Yeah right. Did you bollocks.

I pushed the car down the road and round the corner and let it go down a slight incline. I watched it smash into a tree about 80 metres down the road.

What a load of balls. You didn't really do that.

I believe that the phrase you're all grasping for is.....

Chinny reckon

our road's one of biggish Victorian terraced houses. Most people have at least two cars/4b4s/VW vans etc etc, and we're near the middle of town so people park for the shops etc. Nay biggie. Sometimes have to walk 50m to get to the car but don't have to use it that much with everything round the corner.

What does piss me off is increasingly everyone's having their front garden turned into a carpark, every time they claiming the full frontage and taking space for two/three or cars out of the game, as well as making their house and the road look rather shite. Hey ho.

The other thing is that, on top of their being so many more cars around nowadays, every car is massive compared to 20 years ago - so we have more and more bigger and bigger things blocking everywhere and everything up.

I went out to the car and saw the door was unlocked and the keys were still in the ignition

Whilst I hope that you're making the rest of the story up, this was the norm at my Prep School. The parents would abandon cars all over the place leaving the keys in them for people to shuffle about themselves.

I was the scholarship boy with the rusty Austin Maestro full of Labrador hair, I can imagine the disdain that was moved with. 😆

My friends parents have restraining orders or something to stop their neighbours parking near their house. People are odd.

I grew up in an urban sprawl with lots of terraced Victorian houses that were split into flats, so we were lucky to park a street or so over. Made me laugh when I went to uni and my housemates were upset they couldn't park right outside the house.

The note writer obviously assumed the person had a lesser role in society and I question using such a tactic but hey.

I question your thought process its no impossible to have a reason for wanting to park outside your house/claim a space. Being a first responder to emergency events seems a fair one to me and probably most folk if not you.

I’ve only had this once. We were on holiday in Gran Canaria. We’d got bikes in the back of a van and wanted to park up and go for a ride. We started in a quiet part of a resort, marked parking bays on the road (no restrictions/charging), nothing parked in the bays on one side of the road (no houses), we parked on the other side in front of a house mainly because that was the direction of travel. Spaces in front/behind us. Half the houses are holiday lets rather than homes and we just pulled up outside one at random. Anyway, we get back to find someone parked right up against us blocking his drive. As soon as he sees us he comes out and glowers at us waiting for us to pack everything back into the van, change and head off. Didn’t say a word but clearly didn’t want us there. We move off and he moves his car straight into the space.

At home it’s not really an issue. People park outside my house, but I have a drive so I’m not too bothered, and it’s a wide road so there’s no need to park on the pavement. The one that did bug me a bit was when I got home from work to find someone parked up across my drive, sitting in the car. I was on the bike (the car was in the drive) but did he move to let me actually get the bike onto the drive via the dropped kerb rather than taking a circuitous route? Nope, he just sat there and watched.

Junkyard you don't own that space. Walking another 5metres isn't going to affect anyone. I thought attempting to emotionally blackmail someone out of a public piece of road partly moral corrupt..

@forzakawi
That's nothing. A bloke once leant his bike against my wall. So I builtva satellite armed with a gazillionGW laser and melted his house from space. That showed him.

hjgh5 - in Spain you actually do own the path and section of road in front of your house.
Ex in-laws had to pay double as they have a corner plot when they laid the paths and surfaced the roads in the village.
You are responsible for the upkeep of the path directly - the road you aren't once its down. You "gift" it to the council.
Its been know for them to actually leave the tarmac missing where they owner has refused to pay.

As for the guy across your drive - he'd have moved if it was my house/bike.

strange how many are complaining about car parking when they own a car on a bike riding forum, perhaps sell the car and get more bikes or move.

I agree Project.

Anyway, got to go as I have a 200 mile cycle tomorrow, with my wife, 2 kids and the dog balanced on my bike.

Yep. I've got to go to bed now in prep for the cycle from Portsmouth to Harrow. Would normally only take a few hours but carrying 200m of rope, 6 steel strops,full abseil kit, a load of traffic cones and a box of mastic tends to lower my average speed a touch. Can wheel it all the way to the door though, so not all bad! 🙄

If you're late - I'll be docking your wages too!!

Anyway, got to go as I have a 200 mile cycle tomorrow, with my wife, 2 kids and the dog balanced on my bike.

Yep. I've got to go to bed now in prep for the cycle from Portsmouth to Harrow. Would normally only take a few hours but carrying 200m of rope, 6 steel strops,full abseil kit, a load of traffic cones and a box of mastic tends to lower my average speed a touch. Can wheel it all the way to the door though, so not all bad!

ever heard of hire vehicles, yo hie them as needed not leave them blocking a street, and where are you going too park them at your destination, in front of someone elses house.

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strange how many are complaining about car parking when they own a car on a bike riding forum, perhaps sell the car and get more bikes or move.

Really? Cycling is a hobby for me, not a mode of transport.

I wouldn't be able to go mountain biking if I didn't have a car.

And what if you need it every day? Might as well buy it. Oh...

I'm supposed to hire a vehicle when I need it? So, Mon to Fri for work, lugging rope access kit around the South of England. Then at the weekend, to tow my caravan or just go somewhere not within spitting distance of my house? Seems like it may be a rather extravagant way to do things.
I have a driveway actually so I don't park on the road at home. Just wanted to make the point that your suggestion may be less than practical for many people...

Tbh this is why i refused to buy a new build house....

1 maybe 2 parking spots on anything i could afford, streets littered with cars lie close in their future.

But its ok , you have 5 microbedrooms each with en suite and a dining room a cat couldnt fit in never mind be swung in to compensate for lack of front garden and parking.

My cars spend most of their time sitting in my drive way , i am ok with that as the only person they affect and cost money is me. None of my neighbours even have to look at my borderline scrap.

Im all for the japan style prove you have space before you buy a car deal.....not so in for the super high tax on anything more than a few years old.