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Juicy pic

It's an Orange Crush 35rt.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 8:47 am
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Does it have a tuner built in?


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 8:51 am
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Yarp. That's what the "t" stands for.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 8:53 am
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That looks rather sorted. Nice one.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:17 am
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Reminds me of an REM song.

Good choice 👍👏


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:18 am
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35w, dirty and clean channels, 10 inch speaker, effects loop, aux in, 4x12 cab emulated headphone/line out, digital reverb, sounds filthy.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:33 am
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What music do you like playing ? Metal stuff?


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:46 am
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Mostly metal, but I love doom and stoner rock. I also love The Allman Brothers, Drive by Truckers and Neil Young, so a variety. This amp pretty much does all of that.

I might get a compressor pedal to tighten up the sound for more metal stuff.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:49 am
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Ohh cool. Not into you type of music but very interested in the quality and tone you are getting from that amp.

Letnus know what compression pedel you get, I’m looking for one too..


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:56 am
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Very nice but does it go up to 11?...


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 10:06 am
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Comp pedals aren't the best way to tighten up for metal.

Are you using humbuckers? Are they passive or active?
That makes the biggest difference. Comp pedals are more for clean stuff.

I like to use a boost pedal with output high and gain low into an amp set for a medium distortion to get a good metal sound.

Playing with the EQ is easy and free. Raise the highs and lows and reduce the mids a little to get a more metal sound


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 10:23 am
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Comp pedals aren’t the best way to tighten up for metal.

Are you using humbuckers? Are they passive or active?
That makes the biggest difference. Comp pedals are more for clean stuff.

I like to use a boost pedal with output high and gain low into an amp set for a medium distortion to get a good metal sound.

Playing with the EQ is easy and free. Raise the highs and lows and reduce the mids a little to get a more metal sound

Compressor pedals are very useful for both dirty and clean sounds, providing better sustain and tightening up the frequencies. Of course, the eq settings help but a compression pedal does something a bit different by evening out the sound

I have a Squire Strat with hot rails and a PRS with Seymour Duncan humbuckers. Both passive (I dont like active pups).

A boost pedal is certainly another option: I might try something like the Friedman BE OD or the TS9. The thing is the amp has plenty of distortion so it doesn't need any more, unless I want to get a different sound. An overdrive would need to be more of a boost, with the gain turned way down.

The Orange sound is naturally a little more fuzzy than other makes, and sounds awesome, but it doesn't always lend itself to tight, Nevermore-style riffing; hence why I may also get something like the Revv G3, to provide a different type of distortion when needed.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 4:05 pm
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I dunno. At the end of the day, the best compression is cranking the shit out of a 4*12, making the speaker cones cry and packing down the frequencies of your ears response.

But I don't really play guitar at home much other than songwriting where tone doesn't matter.

I guess I'm saying that chasing some mythical tone improvement when your a home player is pointless. Better spending that money and energy getting in a band and playing at volume.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 4:45 pm
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best compression is cranking the shit out of a 4*12, making the speaker cones cry and packing down the frequencies of your ears response.

That isn't an option for all of us, unfortunately.

Surely part of the fun about electric guitars is finding your sound. Yes, practice, musicianship, playing in a band, song writing are ultimately what it's all about, but finding sounds you like can be inspirational. Also, I would disagree that tone doesn't matter when song writing: Yes, it's not as important, but a particular tone can be a writing tool in itself (e.g. the way compression is used to create the funk sound). Plus, who doesn't like guitar pedals? 😀

The benefit of compressors is not mythical: They are well documented and used by many guitarists around the world. My old practice amp had a compression effect built into it that you could adjust the level of, so I'm used to working with a compression effect (albeit a basic, digital one), even for high gain.

I am just getting back into guitar playing so really finding my feet again. Maybe I gave the wrong impression: I am not intent on getting fixated with gear, I just want to find what works for me. In fact, I bought a digital interface last week (with the aim of creating my own backing tracks to play along to) and ended up taking it back because I found I was spending far too much time on the computer and not enough time playing. I'll probably get a looper pedal so I can do something similar. One of the things I like about the Orange is it has a transparent effects loop so I can run a looper pedal without it being affected by the pre-amp stage.

Ultimately, I'm a simple pedals and amp kinda guy.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 5:53 pm
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If you buy an Orange then it's for the Orange sound right? That thickly grained overdrive sound a bit short on treble. Their transistor amps just model that sound and means you can have it while there are other people in the same house. What transistor amps don't do is naturally compress like valves pushed hard, so if you're playing things which alternate single note picking with strums a compressor gives the single notes more volume and sustain. So I use the compressor quite a lot with my modelling amps but never with valves because the Marshall in particular compresses nicely and the sustain on the lead channel lasts forever.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:23 pm
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Chasing tone when playing at home pointless??!?

Speak for yourself man, I’ll have you know I play the O2 every night in front of thousands 😀

Edit HNAD Mikey. I’d get an OD upfront to tighten it up for the D and drop C mastodon stuff.


 
Posted : 12/01/2019 9:36 pm
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If you buy an Orange then it’s for the Orange sound right? That thickly grained overdrive sound a bit short on treble. Their transistor amps just model that sound and means you can have it while there are other people in the same house. What transistor amps don’t do is naturally compress like valves pushed hard, so if you’re playing things which alternate single note picking with strums a compressor gives the single notes more volume and sustain. So I use the compressor quite a lot with my modelling amps but never with valves because the Marshall in particular compresses nicely and the sustain on the lead channel lasts forever.

Yep, that pretty much sums it up. You're right: You buy Orange amps for the Orange sound, and I love that sound, but sometimes it's good to have something a bit different, for different styles.

Chasing tone when playing at home pointless??!?

Speak for yourself man, I’ll have you know I play the O2 every night in front of thousands 😀

Edit HNAD Mikey. I’d get an OD upfront to tighten it up for the D and drop C mastodon stuff.

Haha! Helloooooo London \m/ \m/

Why do some guitarists get so wound up by this? There is nothing wrong with finding what gear works for you, as long as it doesn't get in the way of actually playing. We can't all have hot tube amps with 4x12 speaker cabs (my apartment neighbours would get their pitchforks and flaming torches out). Even then, it would take time and effort to find out what works. Ironically, it tends to be the guitarists who have all the gear who get most wound up on this subject. Gear is so good now, you can get close to a good tone at low volumes.

An OD pedal is a good call: Something like the OCD, TS9 or Blues Driver, or even the Friedman BE OD. On the dirty channel, it would only need to be a level boost: The amp has so much gain it doesn't need a pedal to add more, unless I roll it back and want to add a different type of gain.


 
Posted : 13/01/2019 4:27 pm

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