Caught doing over 115mph in a 50 limit in the wet & pleaded guilty to speeding but not guilty to dangerous driving (but found guilty)
Sentenced today - what do you think?
No pudding?
Is it you?
Bummed dog, lawn, sausages... assigned "Louise" for community service or 1 year.
No not me!
Pure guess: 12 month ban + £200 fine
Best outcome lengthy ban and fine
Worst, don't forget your lube
Depends.. is it someone famous?
It will depend on whether the driver has any prior motoring convictions or not.
convinced judge that losing licence would be a hardship so keeps it, suspended sentence, slap on wrist?
I would have thought anything over 100mph would be an instaban along with a hefty fine.
was the low sun impairing their view of the speedo ?
might a ban cause undue hardship on the family ?
12mo + nice big fine
What it should be: Licence shredded and car reduced to shards of steel in front of the driver. No driving ever again on pain of a long stay at His Majesty's Pleasure.
What it will be: 3 points and a £50 fine.
C'mon, whats the outcome... and be quick!
These suspenders I'm in are really chafing.....
I'm surprised he didn't get sent down.
I guess more detail is needed on the nature of the 'medical incident' before judging too harshly. I once went very quickly in a 30 zone (Sunday morning, quiet roads, still within reasonable limits) after my heavily pregnant wife started to bleed and we needed to get to the hospital as quickly as possible.
I'm surprised the suspension is that short. I feel like if they're going to suspend the license it should at least be for a sufficiently long time that they'll sell the car rather than just keep it on the driveway.
The rest seems almost steeper than I was going to guess.
speeding fines like that are based on earnings aren't they? Also he didn't plead guilty so they're not going to be lenient! Agree licence suspension should've been significantly longer.The rest seems almost steeper than I was going to guess.
I’m surprised the suspension is that short.
Yeah. The rest (suspended sentence etc) feels, honestly, fairly fair, but I'd expect a year's ban for 115 in a 50.
I guess more detail is needed on the nature of the ‘medical incident’ before judging too harshly.
Not in the slightest imho
Depends on your occupation. In f you don’t need a car or other ls depend on you driving, it will be a ban of 3 months and a fine of one week’s salary after ax and expenditure capped at £1000 if not on a motorway. That’s for speeding.
If found guilty of dangerous driving, then a longer ban or custodial.
EDIT read the judgement. Not far off. Guilty of dangerous driving. Mitigation is not going to excuse, but might give a lower sentence. Am awaiting my own judgement as I type.
hmmm. I guess it depends what you consider "reasonable" - someone else might say you are unreasonably risking the safety of others. And whether you would've been prepared, if caught, to put your hands up & take the punishment - unlike this fella (so really it just smacks of trying to find an excuse).I guess more detail is needed on the nature of the ‘medical incident’ before judging too harshly. I once went very quickly in a 30 zone (Sunday morning, quiet roads, still within reasonable limits)
So he was in "total control" but was horrified when he found out how fast he was going?
BTW the fact he took it to crown court instead of a magistrate indicates a little legal gamesmanship. He lost. Hence the big fine. Should have plead guilty at the magistrates and taken the ban and fine.
I guess more detail is needed on the nature of the ‘medical incident’ before judging too harshly.
Not for me - 115 mph on wet road with junctions and overtaking. Indefensible imo.
On a straight dry carriageway with no junctions or no other road users in sight, and a medical incident, maybe a less hash sentence might have been justified.
If he drove like that in Morte hoe his home location. he would have landed in the sea.
He can get the bus like all the holiday makers in the summer
I clicked on the Devon news site linked above, and noted that the driver has a distinctive surname. A quick Google search reveals that he's a director of a company called Schooner Taverns Ltd, in South Molton. I'm often in that area and would hate to patronise any of his establishments but can't find out any more info. Can anyone see anything more?
It's also interesting that a different person with the same surname and from the same area has recently been jailed for organised drug supply.
He was never going to win the dangerous driving charge
Gaming licence application shows the shipaground in Mortehoe
hmmm. I guess it depends what you consider “reasonable” – someone else might say you are unreasonably risking the safety of others. And whether you would’ve been prepared, if caught, to put your hands up & take the punishment
Yes I would, 100%. But I would still do the same again if I thought (as I did that day) that we were about to lose our babies. I have always assumed such matters are taken into consideration as mitigating circumstances in court (to me, a medical emergency is a million times more important than needing a car to avoid 'undue hardship' due to job etc).
Judicial outcome seem reasonable. What shocks its that the car was capable of 118mph in a country in which the highest limit is 70mph. Manfacturers have had to the technology to limit cars maximium speed for decades but have chosen 250kmh rather than a speed that corresponds to the highest speed limit in the country in which the vehicle is registered.
Manfacturers have had to the technology to limit cars maximium speed for decades
surely the technology must exist, to limit a vehicles speed to that of the road they are being driven on?
surely the technology must exist, to limit a vehicles speed to that of the road they are being driven on?
Not reliably. You have gps but, for example, this week my satnav decided I was on the A1 rather than the road running parallel to it. That way round not really an issue but if it was the other way it would have been slamming the brakes on to get me down to 30mph.
Which could be a tad dangerous.
You then have some which try reading the roadsigns etc but again not guaranteed. There are cases of it deciding the 50mph sticker on the lorry in front is an actual sign.
But I would still do the same again if I thought (as I did that day) that we were about to lose our babies.
I see no issue there because you were saving a life.
I see no issue there because you were saving a life.
Well, yes that was my original point – the person involved in the OPs link said in mitigation that they were going home to attend to a 'medical incident' and I said that we shouldn't be quick to judge without knowing what the incident was (or wasn't, it could have just been a bullshit excuse, but we don't know).
surely the technology must exist, to limit a vehicles speed to that of the road they are being driven on?
Not reliably. You have gps but, for example, this week my satnav decided I was on the A1 rather than the road running parallel to it. That way round not really an issue but if it was the other way it would have been slamming the brakes on to get me down to 30mph.
So much this - I live near a school and there is a 5mph limit in the grounds, however my car thinks I am in the school, not on the 30mph road that runs alongside it and flashes up on my dashboard. I very quickly disabled the 'won't exceed a speed limit' function that my car has.
You could still just cap all cars in the UK at 70 mph as no one has any need to go above that....
Aside, but McEvansoneya is definitely a name from a joke.
surely the technology must exist, to limit a vehicles speed to that of the road they are being driven on?
Not reliably. You have gps but, for example, this week my satnav decided I was on the A1 rather than the road running parallel to it.
The Civic I just had (and IIRC the Octavia before it) could read road signs. It'd pop up the current speed limit on the dash. I think you could use this on the speed limiter part of the cruise control, but I'm not certain as it's not something I ever used (because I think it's dangerous).
It wasn't perfect though. There were times where it went "dunno, chief."
While we are making cars obey speed limits can we have cars refusing to jump red lights and close pass cyclists.
If people can't drive reasonably maybe cars can.
The way the Tories are running the NHS into the ground, we'll soon be encouraged to drive like this rather than call an ambulance.
This came up in the same feed that the OP posted 🙁
https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/fri-am-nurse-killed-fatal-8023102
The Civic I just had (and IIRC the Octavia before it) could read road signs. It’d pop up the current speed limit on the dash. I think you could use this on the speed limiter part of the cruise control, but I’m not certain as it’s not something I ever used (because I think it’s dangerous).
As other have already said, and I concur. They are unreliable, my Kia also puts the speed limit on the display but it can't read overhead gantry signs, it can however misread a 50 roundel on the back of a lorry. No way would I trust the car to control my speed on that basis.
Longer term it will come once ultra-reliable GPS signals are ubiquitous as we'll need for self driving cars.
The way the Tories are running the NHS into the ground, we’ll soon be encouraged to drive like this rather than call an ambulance.
This is the thing. Historically the "I was speeding because I had to get my wife to hospital" wouldn't have been an acceptable defence because the answer is "well you should have called for an ambulance." Today however...?
Manfacturers have had to the technology to limit cars maximium speed for decades but have chosen 250kmh rather than a speed that corresponds to the highest speed limit in the country in which the vehicle is registered.
My car doesn’t come close to 250Kph as it’s maximum speed. Perhaps you’re thinking of a few very high performance cars that very few people could ever afford to own and run.
Meanwhile, the rest of us just get on with what we’ve got.
The fact is, even a 70mph limiter wouldn’t stop some jackass driving at 50 or 60mph past a school with a 20mph limit.
And yes, I know technology exists to react to speed signs, and there’s GPS, I work in the industry, but I also know how these systems work, and it’s not difficult to spoof them, especially GPS.
I’ve seen YouTube videos of my car being driven at 150mph over in Germany. Mine is only a £22k car. I imagine there are quite a few folk just on this forum with cars that will reach they speed.
I have also been done for speeding at just over 100mph in a 70. I honestly didn’t notice the speed I was doing. My old car (AMG Mercedes) would cruise at that speed without it feeling fast.
Now I absolutely don’t speed, not necessarily because of my previous ban, but because I’m a more mature person.
I was doing 102mph and recieved a 30 day ban with a fine of £1500. I had to go to court where I obviously plead guilty.
I still like my fast cars but I honestly no longer speed.
Just thought I’d add this link showing a pretty big standard car reaching 250kph. This is just a 2 litre diesel estate. I don’t have this car, I have the non estate more powerful petrol version. Bit just wanted to show it really is standard cars with the ability to reach 155mph.