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[Closed] Greenbelt land sold behind my house

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Should I be concerned its 3 acres.

Spotted people measuring up already.

Cant see any planning application's yet....


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:24 pm
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I think you know the answer....


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:26 pm
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It sucks if someone builds on it but ultimately it's not your land. If contracts not exchanged you could always try to gazump the buyer.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:29 pm
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What's it currently used for?

Check your local planning office for their policies.

Speak with your negihbours and get ready to object if planning permission is submitted. Quoting the councils own policy if it contravenes it.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:31 pm
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It's gone through. Finished. I didn't have the cash to buy it...

No planning application's showing or old building remains on it.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:32 pm
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Had horses grazing.

Got trees on it and 2 fields bordering it.

Shall wait n see


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:35 pm
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Had horses grazing.

That might be what the new owners want it for.

Do you know how much it went for? If it is viable for development then that amount of land would went for a significant amount.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:37 pm
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40k. Got a link if you want it...


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:39 pm
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40k for thrre acres won't be for development land.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:43 pm
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That's hardly developer territory or large plot to do anything worthy of a development

Council would have surely demanded more ££££ for land if that was the case


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:44 pm
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Talk to the new owners?


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:45 pm
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Dont think it was council owned.

I'm northwest so dont be reading SE land prices into that.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:46 pm
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Talk to the new owners

Will do when I see them


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:47 pm
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How do you know it went for 40k? I've never had any luck finding out land sold prices.

FWIW, 40k sounds more like horse grazing territory than developer. Though could be a speculative buy. Very hard to build on green belt unless its in the council plan. Local panning office will probably happily have a chat to you about what can and cant be done with it.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:51 pm
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I'd be having a chat with whoever was measuring up - owners / surveyors / fencing company - you never know but you can find out loads from a friendly chat and the offer of a cuppa over the fence.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:52 pm
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I’m northwest so dont be reading SE land prices into that.

3 acres of land for £40k? If there was a real chance of development it would of went for 10 times that even in the NW.

It's possible that the new owners might submit an application but it's tricky (impossible in a lot of places) getting permission to build on green belt.

https://www.hollandgreen.co.uk/news/planning-permission-on-green-belts

The main thing is to check and make sure it is green belt.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/greenpolitics/planning/9708387/Interactive-map-Englands-green-belt.html


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 12:55 pm
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Looking on the green belt map it is.

https://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-76822522.html

As a fyi


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:00 pm
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If your house backs onto it get some newts on there asap to protect your view. A few developments near me are on hold due to newts. Tbh for 40k development is unlikely.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:13 pm
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Brace yourself for a couple of hundred "executive" homes.

They're building 2,300 of them in my desirable green village. This stopping it being a desirable green village.

The land owner is The Earl of Wilton and he is keen to flog off his farms. He lives in Australia.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:25 pm
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And now we all know where duncancallum lives...

Well might have to [s]jemmy about 5 windo[/s]...I mean knock on about five doors to confirm the exact house


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:28 pm
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More than 5...

I'm also being disingenuous as it's not actually behind house.

Im dim but not that dim...

plus I've sod all worth pinching


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:32 pm
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Ah, OK. So technically that's the asking price, not the sold price. But ballpark will be right.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:36 pm
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I dunno, got any eggs or flour?


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:38 pm
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See that housing estate you're living on - I remember when all that were fields lad! 🙂


 
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40k for three acres won’t be for development land.

I'd agree with this.

And knowing where you live, I'd be surprised if housebuilding was allowed further up the hill.

Drop your local councillor a line and they may be able to get word from the planning dept about the likely use.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:46 pm
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Makes me feel a bit better

Cheers chaps.

Will keep updating with news n gossip


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:51 pm
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(impossible in a lot of places) getting permission to build on green belt.

Depends on how NIMBY your locals have been.

Ours have objected to every council plan for years, now the old plan has expired and it's been a free for all as all the developers have to do is apply, get rejected, apply again stating that there is no council plan and therefore it get's approved.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 1:53 pm
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Having had negative dealings with the ****ing useless ****s at the local planning department (Rossendale Borough Council) i’d expect someone to plonk a static caravan on it followed shortly by a large ‘executive house’.

If it does end up with a dobbin field ornament in it then think yourself very lucky


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 2:05 pm
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Looks like prime development land to me. Bordered by 2 roads already built on, council under pressure to identify land for housing...


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 2:09 pm
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Did the 5 houses that abut it not consider going in together to have a bit each!?


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 2:19 pm
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Not sure tbh

I bet they'll they had same as the posh ones up the hill.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 2:31 pm
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Have you regularly used it for access or anything? Do you have a gate to it from your property? If you have then get that formalised asap with planning. If they built on it they will have to leave you with that access.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 2:35 pm
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Local authority planning has nothing to do with formalising access that has been informally enjoyed over the years. Just because there is a gate wouldn't mean any private rights have been gained.

Public access is different and you'd have to prove (can't remember to whom) it went back over years to get it registered, probably as a town or village green.

This bit of land looks well fenced and entirely private.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 4:15 pm
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If it all goes pete tong, how many sausages would you need for 3 acres?


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 4:22 pm
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They will build 250 houses on it so close together it will resemble a favela. They will contribute nothing to improve local services except add a second lane to a near by junction for 50 yards which will then add to tail backs as it merges with the next road as 2 lanes join 1. It might put your house value up though if the ‘right kind of People’ want to live there though.

Edit- I read that as hectares, change 250 to 900


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 4:28 pm
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It's my understanding you can gain private rights of access across private land through prescription. Having a gate from your property onto the other would add to the evidence base should it go to court.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 4:45 pm
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I'd have thought horsies around there.

Where do all the old mineshafts begin? Plenty of holes in the floor a bit up the hill, so it might not be feasible to build there anyway.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 4:56 pm
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If it's hilly it won't have been travellers buying through a proxy.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 5:00 pm
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As said above £40k would be very low for developable land. Even with a sniff of potential planning. If a developer has “bought” the land to take a punt on planning with a bonus to the vendor when planning is obtained it will take a few year’s but not unheard of.
Unfortunately most objections seem to be swept aside these days (unless a councillor lives next to the site) so keep your eyes open for any potential planning requests that can be used as a way in for developers.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 5:22 pm
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Around my way the white pick up fraternity buy a small piece of farmland.First off there's a shed and some horses.Next its a touring caravan,followed shortly after by their friends caravans. Then a bigger shed.The touring van goes and is replaced by a static . Planning permission goes in for a detached house.Seems to work and you've got yourself a cheap building plot.North east by the way .


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 5:49 pm
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Check the local plan of the council, it should set out any planned major developments on the coming decades. If something is in the plan then it's unlikely to not get permission, if it's not in the plan then less likely.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 5:54 pm
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That's the theory dc1988 but the reality (at least before the c19 property meltdown) is that unless it's in a national park or aonb the council will be glad of someone helping them to hit their housing target.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 6:25 pm
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At 40K for 3 acres that will likely be horse use. Might have been measuring up for an arena or stables etc.

Still worth keeping an eye on planning as some of them can turn it into a pit of mud and old dodgy Horseboxes rusting in the corner of the field.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 7:36 pm
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It really is Metropolitan Green Belt as opposed to ‘greenfield’ (ie undeveloped) land that is often referred to as Greenbelt.

Greenbelt is a statutory designation as opposed to something designated at council level. Although GB does get released for development that does remain fairly exceptional. Given that location, and what GB is intended to achieve (and the price paid!) I’d say you’re safe from development in the foreseeable future.


 
Posted : 15/05/2020 9:25 pm

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