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Well it was definitely an improvement on what was there

I thought the original building looked great

Well yeh if it was in better condition. I'd no problem whatsoever if that had actually been renovated. Old and interesting buildings are cool.

We also thought the outside stairs were bonkers. Everyone seeing you in your PJs when going up and down for a cuppa lol!


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 8:18 am
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Hmmm, another one using their “commercial” teams to build their personal projects . I wonder how much of that cost “disappears” into other jobs 😉

I suspect somewhere a VAT officer will be submitting a note into the system today. I would aslo expect that the HSE may spare an inspection to an ongoing project having seen the state of the "edge protection" installed for work at height.

Came across as a "rules are for other people entitled git". The neighbour could have made that over run by several more years by use of the submitted plans and objecting to any built, unapproved variations.


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 8:41 am
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We also thought the outside stairs were bonkers. Everyone seeing you in your PJs when going up and down for a cuppa lol!

im sure the 3d models showed a second staircase inside the building for such purposes


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 8:51 am
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If you want an alterative, This chap, Alec who used to help out up at Stainburn has an interesting project on the go.

He has a background in filming (he did us some trailbuilding video's) and its also worth having a look for his Yamaha TR1 project too. He's a talented chap.


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 8:58 am
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I’ve driven passed that location a few times for work and not realised it was a going to be a home, thought it was the coast guard updating. Great location, but an odd build and a very odd way of going about things.

The 25yr look back a fortnight ago was quite fun


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 9:19 am
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How on earth did he consider that as a refurb when there was nothing left but a party wall?! Not surprised it was knocked back.


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 9:20 am
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I wonder how much he paid off the planners and neighbours with.  Should have been rejected purely on the basis he knocked the old one down instead of renovating!

And leaving that chimney teetering after the demolision!!!!


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 9:28 am
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Nice to see something relatively understated and lowish budget compared to some of the monstrosities they noramlly start a new series with. Yeah the guy was a bit of a tool with plenty of loopholes to exploit, rules to break etc (normal Grand Designs candidate) but the end result is actually quite fitting with what was originally there.

However, that only works if you know what was there before. For the thousands of tourists who will pass it they will see a glass cube stuck on the end of a terrace of Edwardian houses and wonder who approved that.


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 12:06 pm
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I'm surprised he had permission to bring the front of the property so far forward compared to his neighbours.


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 12:23 pm
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Hmmm, another one using their “commercial” teams to build their personal projects . I wonder how much of that cost “disappears” into other jobs

Perks of the job innit! I'm a subby and that happens alot, 'Oh can you do my lounge just book the time/materials to X job' Personally I'm not fussed I'm getting paid regardless

Someone on faceache made this comparison and I can't unsee it now!

That said it looks better than the knackered tower it replaced IMO. And I like the contrast between old and new.xo9iwrc1vb991


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 5:34 pm
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Well, I've started work this week hopefully for a few months on the Passivhaus, North Cotswolds one.

Really nice people.

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I'm currently working under the spiral staircase fettling all these curved doors that a mate of mine made.

There's about 7 around the staircase bottom and several more here and there.

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Cool house and interesting chatting to the owner.


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 6:56 pm
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We've got a lot in common as he's been on Grand Designs, and I've been on Shed of the Year, which is basically the same thing 😉


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 7:25 pm
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What an absolute throbber. Five years ruining his neighbours life. How can that be acceptable? Pretending it's a renovation?! No way did that cost 375k What a entitled.....


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 9:36 pm
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Are those patio doors legal ? I actually quite like the fact you can open the door and fall out but surprised it got signed off!

The stairs look great, but no banister? Right trendy but completely impractical for young kids or recovering from surgery / old age etc


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 10:23 pm
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Are those patio doors legal ? I actually quite like the fact you can open the door and fall out but surprised it got signed off!

The stairs look great, but no banister? Right trendy but completely impractical for young kids or recovering from surgery / old age etc

they did say it wasn’t finished when Kev came back for the final visit. However, with grand children running round the house, surely anyone would make those a priority? Although based on his previous decisions , there probably isn’t an area to fix a Juliette balcony to


 
Posted : 26/09/2024 11:42 pm
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I didn’t hate it/him as much as I thought I would having read here before watching. Amazing he’s managed to get as far as he has with his somewhat lacking attention to detail, but he’s not even top 10 when it comes to grand designs throbbers.

His main contractor deserves a sainthood though.


 
Posted : 27/09/2024 6:23 am
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tomhoward+1

Not a developer that I'd go to, but personable enough.

Long wait for German windows again!!


 
Posted : 27/09/2024 9:45 am
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Are those patio doors legal ? I actually quite like the fact you can open the door and fall out but surprised it got signed off!

It's in keeping with the area, for years there was a bungalow round the corner that just had a UPVC door to nowhere in the gable end.


 
Posted : 27/09/2024 10:31 am
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@kayak23 - thanks for sharing this, although given the youth of the house, I’m slightly concerned that the joinery already needs a few months of your fettling, so hope that it’s more your cabinet-making skills in play for new stuff than remaking curved doors. I would love to build a Passivhaus in my sloping garden in the next few years but certainly not 800m2 worth!


 
Posted : 27/09/2024 11:28 am
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I expect that give it a couple of months and it'll be bleeding rust out of the render given the lack of attention to detail in the rest of the build.


 
Posted : 27/09/2024 4:25 pm
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Posted : 27/09/2024 6:17 pm
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So... He has experience in IT project management, but he still thinks fixed price projects will solve all his problems. Lolz.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:16 pm
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I’m not sure Kev is impressed by these two idiots. Only starts in March 23 so they either get it all done or we’ll be back to look at a muddy hole at the end…


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:17 pm
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He works with multi global companies so it's in safe hands.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:18 pm
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multi global companies

Perfect for GD, different planets.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:29 pm
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I like how the massive pergola sensitively ties the garden in with the house. They'd be lost without it.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:38 pm
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It’s not my taste but I can’t knock the fact they got it done. No babies, no caravan, no major dramas. Weird really.

Edit: I’ve warmed to them, as has Kev. Under budget! There was a nod of approval from him there.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:50 pm
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House for two persons? LOL!

This "long house" can easily house 3 generations if not all the relatives in.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:57 pm
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That is really quite an achievement. Kudos.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 9:59 pm
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I liked them. Got stuck in, under budget and a couple of months early.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 10:01 pm
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Started thinking "Oh yeah, this will be a car crash". Ended thinking "Nice work, well done" Doing that in 18 months under budget, very well done.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 10:02 pm
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Really wanted to slag this one off, but the only thing I didn't like was the corten steel. <shrug>

Not sure Lincolnshire is going to hold their attention though.


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 10:28 pm
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If you want more info on tonight's house, they are members of the excellent Buildhub self build forum

https://forum.buildhub.org.uk/topic/40692-were-featuring-on-grand-designs-next-week-%F0%9F%8E%A5/

And here is their Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/thefoxesmaltings/


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 10:36 pm
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As soon as I heard 'influencers' I wanted to dislike them/the project but fairplay, they did a great job with minimal drama. Only thing I didn't like was the weird cloudy paint finish everywhere. Loved the table too!


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 10:59 pm
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Ahead of schedule / under budget / she didn’t get pregnant ?

what nonsense is this ??

Really wanted to slag this one off, but the only thing I didn’t like was the corten steel. <shrug>

I can’t stand the stuff , but the rusty / retro look really helped them out there . There’s a reason why a decent survey is in the £k’s , along with fitting. Fair play for having a go though


 
Posted : 02/10/2024 11:04 pm
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Yeh, under budget, ahead of schedule, no pregnancy, and they didn't seem like total arseholes, and they appeared to put a lot of work in.

Obviously being multi-global IT guy pays off lol! Whatever other planets he worked on gave them GD super powers.

I think, as Kevin said, youthful energy had a lot to play in this.  The only really 'meh' we had was the enormous pergola really .


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 7:17 am
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I'm doubting the under budget bit, I suspect not entirely honest there, all for the clicks and likes.

Do GD check this or just take their word?


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 7:31 am
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He works with multi global companies so it’s in safe hands.

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As soon as I heard ‘influencers’ I wanted to dislike them

^^^ That and that. I immediately told my wife that I couldn't watch it so we ended up *finally* starting Sherwood. I might have to give it a go though now.


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 8:41 am
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Great finished product, but I call BS on some of their comments / the impression they give.   Especially the underbudget bit.  Yes you can muck in to save a few quid but not 100+k.  I didn't see any mention of an architect either?  May have missed that bit as was half watching.  Carrying a few thousand slates onto a roof in a nice shiny superdry rucksack whilst looking better than I do when I go out for a posh meal?  Completely staged.

Several red flag BS moments - especially the multi global comment - the fact they left that it in was interesting.  It is in these guys interest to portray themselves as superhuman / incredibly successful at everything they do, it is what drives their social media engagement, which in turns makes more money for them.

But, whilst not my taste, the final product looked amazing.  So fair play for that.


 
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Carrying a few thousand slates onto a roof in a nice shiny superdry rucksack whilst looking better than I do when I go out for a posh meal?  Completely staged.

100% , especially with farmer Giles next door with his handy Telehandler 😉


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 10:13 am
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Some money in them socials ! Thing is, these things don't last ! Loved the house, less impressed with the boring garden.


 
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I’m doubting the under budget bit, I suspect not entirely honest there, all for the clicks and likes.

Do GD check this or just take their word?

He did mention he had a contingency built into his costings. Might have been a generous 10/20%

Apart from the extra £4k they paid on the groundworks ( probably offset by what they saved on the Corten) , it all appeared to go well.

Only thing that niggled me ,were the missing skylights. Why not just knock up some waterproof timber covers so they could get on with the inside with no danger of water coming in . ( rather than just stapling polythene sheets to the outside )


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 10:19 am
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less impressed with the boring garden.

That'll mature in though.

They came across reasonably well. Presuming the relationship with the farmer was true and they kept him sweet for access to his son and equipment.


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 2:53 pm
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We caught it part way through. I immediately thought 'Apprentice meets Grand Designs' mashup... I bet the '£623k' was the bricks etc build cost. Excluding plot, architect etc. I don't believe an IT PM and a makeup influencer (gah!) could do that for £100k under unless the budget was inflated £100k over in the first place - specially when they seemed to forget to confirm where one trade ended and the next began eg groundworkers and brickies and to order rooflights that actually fitted...


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 7:44 pm
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Where was the log store and log basket for the nice woodburning stove ?


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 8:44 pm
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That  gym was not a cost saving!

The bbq looked huge on the patio too!

That huge pond or swimming pool?

Its those smaller details makes you realize the money spent and add to that mortgage!

I missed the start as well.

The end product did look ok .

The garden feature did work and help the overall look.


 
Posted : 03/10/2024 10:36 pm
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Can't win with you miserable buggers on here.

Came in ahead of schedule and under-budget - no major SNAFUs.

Seemed like nice people - the chap was a bit too fond of the corporate jargon, but didn't find him as triggering as some of the absolute roasters they have on.

I quite liked the house - even the corten looked ok (on the outside) - not a fan of the decoration, but I quite liked the design.  My only critisism is that the brickwork on the front should have been a bit more interesting - a few more buttresses or details around the windows, it just looked too much like a estate new-build.

I thought the garden looked great in the renderings - even the giant pagoda.  Once it's all planted-out it'll look good I think.

Proof that a well managed build doesn't make a great episode.


 
Posted : 04/10/2024 4:09 am
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Build cost of 1600 per square meter? Unlikely with handmade bricks, corten, slate roof, glazing sizes, garden structures, and the internal fit out, including the gym which you don’t fit out like that if you are tight on budget!
But good looking building, and despite my intense dislike of influencers and their type they seemed quite nice!


 
Posted : 04/10/2024 6:27 am
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I’m currently building my own house. Huge for me, but relatively modest compared to most Grand Designs, 10m x 9m footprint, it’s looking like we’ll be all in , including internal fit out/furniture for less than £210k. We’re currently almost watertight (2 windows and the patio doors to be fitted, when we finally get them - the Company went bust 3 weeks ago), fitting out the inside now.
From my back of envelope figures, we’re currently at around £160k, the external brickwork is the only remaining large bill (£10-15k), possibly some tarmac at £5-7k too. Then its flooring, wall coverings and external landscaping to get rid of the piles of waste soil and raise the ground level around 300mm. That should take us to the £200-210k level, so if managed correctly I can see how they did their large build for £630k.
Oh, we’re not skimping too, really well insulated, ASHP, Neff ovens (note plural!), nice large bathrooms etc. If it was a budget build I could definietley do it for less than £200k for a four bed, 2 bath detached. Of course, I’m not taking wages out of it, so that would be a £30k cost on top, even then, its easily doable for well under £250k.


 
Posted : 04/10/2024 9:03 am
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I dont watch Grand Designs but caught this one and I agree with some of the comments here, Kevin def warmed to them and surprised under budget, delivered quickly and no pregnancy or divorce/split!

Carrying a few thousand slates onto a roof in a nice shiny superdry rucksack whilst looking better than I do when I go out for a posh meal?  Completely staged.

I mean, the whole show is somewhat staged, but I expect they filmed the first dozen runs to see if they failed or made it, looked like they would do it so filmed the clip and then left them too it, I bet by the time they finished there looked much worse being sweaty and mucky!


 
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Couldn’t figure out why they didn’t just hire a Bumpa lift for the slates, one of them loading and the other unloading. Suppose the flaw is that they’d have needed another to film it for the Socials.
A minor quibble, as otherwise I liked it.


 
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I imagine that they were quite savy and that a lot of the "featured" suppliers were assisting with the financing in some way.  The we're influencers and are going to be on Grand Designs will certainly help in that regard.

Did anyone notice that the farmer's son's Tshirt getting blurred out in one scene - I wonder if it was just a swoosh or if he thought "I'll get a tshirt printed for GD"?


 
Posted : 04/10/2024 12:05 pm
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I've just caught up with the first one. I really liked it and I quite liked him. Sure he must have been infuriating to work with but he never blamed others for his mistakes which is why I guess his contactors have been able to work with him for years.


 
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Couldn’t figure out why they didn’t just hire a Bumpa lift for the slates,

because they wanted to come in under budget. That’s how you make savings, lots of little areas, not one big one.


 
Posted : 04/10/2024 2:03 pm
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Couldn’t figure out why they didn’t just hire a Bumpa lift for the slates,
because they wanted to come in under budget. That’s how you make savings, lots of little areas, not one big one.

If you, for one minute, believe that they carried several tonnes of slates up that ladder, 10 at a time in a rucksack, I've got a bridge I'd like to sell you.


 
Posted : 04/10/2024 2:23 pm
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Unlikely with handmade bricks

It looked like they were mass-produced and then given a cosmetic overhaul to achieve the hand-made look.


 
Posted : 04/10/2024 3:40 pm
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It looked like they were mass-produced and then given a cosmetic overhaul to achieve the hand-made look

There was a whole segment on how the new bricks were distressed...


 
Posted : 05/10/2024 12:26 am
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The wolf logo on their hi viz looked familiar but I can't think what brand?


 
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There was a whole segment on how the new bricks were distressed…

When they were delivered all the logos were smudged out. Always find that weird.


 
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I always assumed that the smudge was for advertising "reasons" but it always annoys me that a large number of these builds are be architects or "builder" who get lots of free advertising by dint of its being their build.


 
Posted : 05/10/2024 10:18 am
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I built my house, or at least managed the architect , build etc, and I'm not surprised some aren't perfect as I reckoned it would take 3 tries to get exactly what I really wanted. I'm not surprised some don't go to plan as they're not the stock buiolt boxes most builders deal with so some experimentation is required.

Lot of stress, but definitely worth doing if you get the chance.


 
Posted : 05/10/2024 10:31 am
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We self built 9 years ago and I saw a lot I recognised in this one.

Wanted to dislike them but they clearly got stuck in. Never understand the branding rules on GD - why are some co's shown and others blurred out?

Coming in under budget was impressive. I came in on budget. How? realistic to start with (most GD aren't)  - lots of research and quotes. Make sure estimates for anything you dont know are high and have a big contingency.  Then scale stuff back when one thing goes over - they did a load themselves (there was a comment about finish quality being rough in places), the garden wasn't planted, some of the rooms weren't finished, had they delayed the hot tub?  did they actually build the outbuildings that were mentioned at the start? (I'm guessing the gym was going to be in a garden building, they scrapped that and put it in the garage. That might have been 50k by itself..

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Posted : 05/10/2024 1:19 pm
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 did they actually build the outbuildings that were mentioned at the start?

You could see the big black “shed” when looking out the big rear window


 
Posted : 05/10/2024 1:45 pm
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Quite a bit of jealous sounding people on here.

Thought they were a breath of fresh air. Clearly both happy to get stuck in and lived and breathed the build.

Getting it done in the timescale was ridiculous. My jaw dropped when I saw the first visit was March last year. Figured that they'd either smash it or it went horribly wrong.

As for their jobs a lot of people give influencers a bad rep cos of how many fakes there are out there. To actually be successful is full time hard graft just in a way a lot of people from older generations can't even begin to understand.


 
Posted : 05/10/2024 2:22 pm
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Cool disability bungalow tonight. Good for them.


 
Posted : 09/10/2024 9:41 pm
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Best one I've seen for ages


 
Posted : 09/10/2024 9:47 pm
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Best one I’ve seen for ages

i concur.  lovely story and lovely place, real feelgood factor.


 
Posted : 09/10/2024 9:50 pm
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Wasn't sure at first, seemed to be losing too much time in life with family & kids for the sake of not looking accessible, but the finished article was just great  thumbs up emoji


 
Posted : 09/10/2024 9:51 pm
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Yeah enjoyed that one, he was a proper grafter and seemed a nice bloke.


 
Posted : 09/10/2024 9:52 pm
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Like how Kevin seemed to be setting him up as a project management business for accessible buildings at the end. He really seemed get on with them, was less arsey with them.


 
Posted : 09/10/2024 10:36 pm
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How could you be arsey with them? Amazing people.


 
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Did she get pregnant half way through or is Kevin losing his appeal? ?


 
Posted : 10/10/2024 7:29 am
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We had a power cut as the mason was cutting the stone round the rsj.....


 
Posted : 10/10/2024 7:36 am
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Certinly one of the best I've seen. Well done to them....he's a real grafter.


 
Posted : 10/10/2024 9:16 am
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We had a power cut as the mason was cutting the stone round the rsj…..

i doubt they're related.


 
Posted : 10/10/2024 11:14 am
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Great build last night. Fabulous. Now we can't be having two builds come in around time and budget and looking great. When is the next disaster ? LOL.


 
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Last weeks couple are busy pimping themselves around the internet.  They posted on a Victorian and Edwardian renovation FB group for some reason despite being a newbuild.

This weeks was great. Loved the re-use of all the old light switches, bar rails etc.


 
Posted : 10/10/2024 3:20 pm
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That was my favourite build, I think.

A really nice house in a nice location built for the right reasons.


 
Posted : 10/10/2024 3:40 pm
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Caught up on this series.

Lighthouse / 1st episode. Guy was a complete ****, knew full well what he was doing regarding planning, the party wall and chimney looked pretty knackered and were left exposed for too long. His contractors obviously like his coin as otherwise they'd have told him to **** off years ago.

Felt sorry for the guy next door and the son.

Episode 2, I couldn't figure the angle with the farmer and his son but the build turned out okay and the young couple were likeable. £3k a month mortgage though!!!!!!!

Episode 3. MrsRNP favourite ever GD because of the woman her positive attitude and the finished interior fit out and style, lad was a grafter.

Kev's cars have come on a bit - I remember very early episodes where he drove an ex military Landrover Series 3


 
Posted : 12/10/2024 9:47 pm
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Kev’s cars have come on a bit

True, but that BMW is so ugly

As someone interested in design I am surprised that he chose it, although it may be a loaner


 
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