Gran Turismo / GT7

Gran Turismo was always the game that got me to buy the new PlayStation but I don't want to buy a PS4 when it's an old model but the PS5 is too expensive to buy for one game.

I also don't know if my old steering wheel would still work as it's no good without it.

Don't think I've played one since GT2 but man, the number of hours we sank into those first two... I still want a crimson TVR just like my one in the game.

I think I've probably spent more time getting GT driving licences than actual real world licences.

Can’t wait! Disappointed no VR though (yet?).

This will be the reason i buy a PS5, anyone know when stock is likely anywhere?

the PS5 is too expensive to buy for one game

They'll bring out more don't worry.

The only one I played much was GT3 on PS2. Those 70 lap races were tough, but not as bad as playing a full 90 minute match on Kick Off 2 on the Atari.

Ah wait, I must have had GT3 too, just looked at the soundtrack and it's the one with all the Grand Theft Audio songs. Ah god, remember game soundtracks? I want to buy a PS2 and play Tony Hawk now.

There are plenty of PS4s around from about a hundred quid. You'd probably need to budget a bit of time to strip it down, clean the fan out and replace the heat sink paste but if I can do it (and not lose any of the teeny tiny screws) then anyone can.

The bits I've seen online (so far) don't show a massive difference in quality between PS4 and PS5. I guess there'll be a massive difference in loading time, but I did stick a spare SSD in my PS4Pro the other week which might help a little bit.

GT3 sucked plenty of my time away - as did GT4 when I got my PS3. Happy days 🙂

reviews look good, its downloading to my ps5 as we speak.

Amazon apparently shipped some US orders out last weekend. oops!

Does anyone remember the "scratch and sniff" GT2 disc on the original Playstation?

I've got vague memories of picking up a copy on launch day and the manager of Electronics Boutique showing me and my mate that if you gently scratched the top of the disc, it smelt like engine oil.

exactly this. and now I sigh as that's another £600 gone... still GT7! I remember coming back to my uni digs Sunday night from Christmas break, hardcore maths exam the next day, spunked the remaining study hours away completing the 200 lap race or other... failed the exam he-he.

Yep, pre ordered the 25th anniversary digital edition for my PS5, I will be losing weeks of my life to this.

Been checking out the reviews today and it seems to be everything it was promised to be!

My last GT game was GT5 on the PS3, 10 years ago!

I'm also playing Horizon forbidden west at the moment, best looking game I've ever played and I'm expecting GT7 to go beyond this with the weather, time of day stuff etc.

I still have fond memories of lapping the nordschleife at dusk into the dead of night...

Gran Turismo was always the game that got me to buy the new PlayStation but I don’t want to buy a PS4 when it’s an old model but the PS5 is too expensive to buy for one game.

I'm waiting to find out what the Endurance races are like before I contemplate getting a PS5. I'm also another one who has 'wasted' endless hours on all of the main titles in the series. GT6 was a disappointment for me as the gameplay wasn't a big jump up from GT5 and I really wasn't happy when the didn't include any 24hr races, I used to do a solo Le Mans on the weekend of the race with Radio Le Mans playing, became a bit of a tradition!

If it wasn't for the Gran Turismo games I wouldn't have bought another console after the original Playstation! Still got my PS3 but it's been a dust collector for well over 5 years now.

Yep, pretty excited for it, really hope they have not fallen into the trap Project Cars did with making it more of an arcade game than a sim.

I know it's not a Sim, I've got a few titles on the PC for that, but Gran Turismo Sport is incredibly good fun. It seems to strike the perfect balance between race simulator and arcade racer.

I want to buy a PS2 and play Tony Hawk now.

No need it got a decent remake for recent gen systems last year 🙂

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hawk%27s_Pro_Skater_1_%2B_2

Reviews seem promising but I’ll probably give it a miss, I’m a very casual gamer now so can’t put the time into it.

As for PS5s

https://stock-checker.com/articles/ps5-stock-uk-stock-checker-exclusive-news-on-upcoming-argos-ps5-restock-155332.html

I've got a ps4 which I play very occasionally and I would love to get GT7. However, I am so out of touch with the price of games as it's been so long since I bought one. Ooft...they are expensive!

For the last few years I have played games through psnow or psplus so it's been a while since I actually bought one. This could be the one though.

Who’s staying up late tonight?
Taking tomorrow off work?

However, I am so out of touch with the price of games as it’s been so long since I bought one. Ooft…they are expensive!

Yes and no. These big titles usually have fancy special editions for £70 or whatever, and normal for £50 - ok perhaps GT7 is only available in £70 version... But when I was a kid Atari games were £25 full price and that is equivalent to £60 now - so it's not unprecedented.

Whilst we are on the subject of PS2 nostalgia, anyone know of a modern substitute for SSX Tricky?

Whilst we are on the subject of PS2 nostalgia, anyone know of a modern substitute for SSX Tricky?

Not Steep. I bought that last year in the hope it would be, and it wasn't 🙁

As if spending £500 odd on a PS5 wasn’t enough…

https://gtddpro.fanatec.com/

(No, I haven’t, bet it’s amazing though)

It's £60 to download for the PS4 from the online store - think you can knock a fiver off if you buy a physical copy. A tenner more expensive for the PS5 version naturally. And if any lowly PS4 owners upgrade to a PS5 you can upgrade GT7 for another tenner.

Pre ordering it before release gives you some extra stuff too. 100,000 credit and 3 cars. And as we all remember with Gran Turismo, moar cars = better.

I won't be staying up to play in tonight I don't think - but I expect to have some quality time with it over the weekend 🙂

I was in the loft the other week and found my copies of GT 1, 2 & 3 I'm glad i dont know how much time i spent on them! We have a PC and the kids are on xbox so I'll not be getting this one which after seeing it streamed this morning I'm kind of sad about.

GT7 is on my birthday list as I quite enjoy playing GT sport. I'm wondering whether a wheel will make my life complete.

I’m wondering whether a wheel will make my life complete.

Complete? No. Significantly improved experience (a couple of seconds a lap quicker)? Yep.

It's rubbish without a wheel IMO, it massively improves the user experience

Dunno how everyone uses the hand controllers, but I have them set up like a wheel at the mo (so I "turn" the controller to steer) and it seems to work well. Kids use the joysticks which I find uncontrollable.

Any likely hood of wheels / pedals with PS5 haptic feedback being released, at a half way sensible price?

However, I am so out of touch with the price of games as it’s been so long since I bought one. Ooft…they are expensive!

I remember getting for Christmas in 1993 Virtua Racer for the Mega Drive, that was an £80 cartridge! Adjusted for inflation that's over £160 😲

How's does it compare to Forza 7?

I used to have PlayStation's back in the day and played gt1 through to 3, but since then have been on Xbox . Quite liked Forza 7.

Now I have a ps5, and am wondering if gt7 might be worth a go

Whilst we are on the subject of PS2 nostalgia, anyone know of a modern substitute for SSX Tricky?

Riders republic is the closest I have found to ssx,steep is good too if you give it a chance but much less race orientated.
Gt7 looks promising bring on midnight!

Does anyone remember the “scratch and sniff” GT2 disc on the original Playstation?

I’ve got vague memories of picking up a copy on launch day and the manager of Electronics Boutique showing me and my mate that if you gently scratched the top of the disc, it smelt like engine oil.

Still got it, still play it. Scent has diminished a bit but that loading sequence still gets the hair on my neck standing up.

FFS, update required!

Still waiting, seems the whole world is downloading the update and the servers aren’t coping as well as the might 🤬

First impressions..

It's gorgeous
Some of the cars sound good
It takes ages to start racing and you cant do archade mode in cars you don't own or tracks you haven't unlocked So after an hour that's just some fwd yazz like stuff on 3 tracks. I was hoping to jump into an mx5 or something and drive trial miuntain

Must get!

It’s gorgeous

Very much this. If they add VR support for PSVR2, I may never leave the house again.

I remember getting for Christmas in 1993 Virtua Racer for the Mega Drive, that was an £80 cartridge! Adjusted for inflation that’s over £160 😲

Ha, yeah I bought that too when it came out. Had the superchip bulging out of the cartridge to power those polygon graphics! Visuals were awesome at the time but it was boring to play...only had two tracks, or you could only race against one other car or something, from memory!

First impressions..

It’s gorgeous
Some of the cars sound good
It takes ages to start racing and you cant do archade mode in cars you don’t own or tracks you haven’t unlocked So after an hour that’s just some fwd yazz like stuff on 3 tracks. I was hoping to jump into an mx5 or something and drive trial miuntain

Echo all of this. Looks amazing on my PS4Pro, must be even better on a 5. The intro sequence is really long. As I pre ordered I had 100,000cr and 3 cars. I bought a Honda Integra as my 'first' car which made the Sunday Cup races a bit one sided as the rest of the field were in Aygos and Honda Jazzs. On the European race I could also do it in a 'race' car against proper opposition, so fired up my free Supra. Got whupped.

Pleased I upgraded the HDD on the console to a SSD - the loading times are pretty good with the upgrade, would assume it would be a lot slower without.

I might have had a quick hour last night at midnight... 😁

I actually love that you have to work your way through the family hatches, rather than just handing you an 800bhp race car after 20 minutes, you have to earn the right for that.

Handling is great too, and the haptics through three pad really are excellent.

The intro is classic GT, in fact all of it is - smooth jazz in the garage area 😎

I preferred the intro on GT5 if I'm honest though

I got the 25th anniversary edition, so started with 1,620,000Cr 😎. Alfa 8C sounds glorious 😉

Apparently my old Logitech wheel wouldn't be PS5 compatible and I've just looked at the price of the latest equivalent, it's about 5 times what I paid.

Apparently my old Logitech wheel wouldn’t be PS5 compatible

If it worked on the PS4 it'll work. Otherwise the g920 is decent value

Apparently my old Logitech wheel wouldn’t be PS5 compatible and I’ve just looked at the price of the latest equivalent, it’s about 5 times what I paid.

There's a wide range of compatible wheels with vastly different prices, if you're looking at the fanatec DD pro official gt7 wheel, it's a direct drive wheel so is very good but also very expensive.

£2-300 seems to be the starting point for most of the wheels.

Is it just me? I used to have a lovely Logitech wheel and pedals for my PS3 and was no faster at all around a lap of GT than I was with a Dualshock 3 so I'm resisting the spend on a new wheel.

Also, I need to have the camera set to follow the car rather than sitting inside it. Maybe I'm weird! Took me a fair few button presses this morning to change it.

So this is my 9th Gran Turismo game I think. Must have hundreds, if not thousand hours in each of the previous versions of the game, and have a very good online ranking on GTSport.

The B and A licenses can get in the sea.

I bought a wheel for my PS2, but I couldn't find a place to put it to allow me to use it effectively. Plus it was a cheap one, wasn't worth me spending hundreds and still isn't. I'd rather save up for PSVR2 when it comes out.

I reckon there's a very good chance gt7 will be a psvr2 title, it'd be a master stroke and vr in racing games is just utterly amazing...

As long as you don't look left whilst turning right...

I blame the original GT for me getting a D in my History GCSE in 1998. GT3 took up most of my uni years. A favourite to farm money was to do the Test Course endurance race with the Pikes Peak Suzuki Escudo and just tape the X button down then go make a cuppa/spliff.

Got an Xbox Series X and enjoyed Forza Horizon 4 but Horizon 5 has been a massive let down and Forza Motorsport 8 is miles away from even being close to release. If I could find one I'd buy a PS5 and GT7 in a heartbeat.

do the Test Course endurance race with the Pikes Peak Suzuki Escudo and just tape the X button down then go make a cuppa/spliff.

omg you’re me and I claim my (your) five pounds

edit: it’s and not or

So, one weekend in, what are folks thoughts?

I have to say, I’m properly underwhelmed.

Graphics, bang on. Even on a PS4.
Gameplay, frustrating having to unlock tracks, apparently there are 40 odd ‘menu books’ that you have to get through to unlock everything.
Cars. Seemingly they stopped picking cars to feature around 2018, apart from stuff that was DLC’d into GTS. Not a a massive issue for me, as I like the older interesting stuff, or I hope I do, once I unlock the ability to actually buy some.

If this is you first time playing a GT game, it’s fine. But if you put any time into any reacently, you’ll be tearing your hair out. Hope that updates will improve things.

Very much not a game you can pick up for an hour then put down. It will be, but not until you’ve put the graft in to unlock everything.

So more like GT1 through 4 (I think) then, the PS1/PS2 GT games were really grindy, but in a good way for a teenage me.

Playing 5 on an emulator and it feels a bit "quick" compared to those - never got to 6 or sport.

Really want a PS5 for this, but they're unobtanium - I'm sad and not sad at the same time about it!

I'm really enjoying it so far, I haven't played a GT game since GT5 as the wheel I had wasn't compatible with the PS4. My wife suggested that I get another wheel to use with the PS5 when she saw how good GT7 and F1 2021 looked so got one and a month ago, and she's enjoying GT7 as well.

The graphics are amazing, and I think the physics is a massive step up from when I last played GT5. My main complaint is the catch the rabbit format for races, I wouldn't mind a couple of them but every single menu book has been this format so far. It's just lazy from PD.

The licences have been really challenging, with some taking about 50 attempts to get gold, but then the next one will take about 3 attempts so slightly unbalanced. Got gold on all of them up to the super licences so far.

I don't mind the unlocking tracks and working the way through different car types, it's been quite a lot of fun and allowing my wife to get used to racing games.

My username is Markoc_1984 if anyone wants some online races or extra people in the leaderboards

Very much not a game you can pick up for an hour then put down. It will be, but not until you’ve put the graft in to unlock everything

yeah - that was the impression I got from reviews ( I havent played it), I dont want to be forced to grind in order to get interesting cars & tracks, I just want to race whetever I want, where ever I want.

Its fine to have a career mode where you have to work your way up , but not at the expense of just being able to race.

The licences have been really challenging

How hard were IA-8 and 9?! I’m all gold apart from the international A final exam, purely because the ‘all gold’ reward car isn’t worth the ages it’ll take me to find the half second I need to get it. Not started the super license ones yet.

IA-8 was the one that took me 50 attempts, but 9 wasn't too bad, I much preferred the track and car combo so was able to get within 0.01 seconds within a few attempts, then a few more attempts later in the day to get gold I-10 was good fun but I also got one under 0.01 seconds too slow then spent another half hour trying to beat it.

The super licences are full laps so a bit more frustrating if you make a mistake towards the end on the lap as you have to restart the whole thing, 2 gold and 2 silvers so far, and I hear the final one is a real challenge but looking forward to it.

This looks like it could be a thing that'd allow older wheels to work on newer consoles-

https://www.brookaccessory.com/detail/88228620/

and

Whilst we are on the subject of PS2 nostalgia, anyone know of a modern substitute for SSX Tricky?

It runs well in PCSX2 (PS2 emu) 😎 , dunno if it's backwards-compatible on the newer PS consoles or not :/

Is there major improvements on the driving physics in gt7 compared to gtsport?

I'm not really fussed for the whole single player thing and at the minute, there's only a couple of extra tracks on gt7, as compared to gtsport.

Considering I'm still on ps4, I doubt I'd see any great graphical jump either.

I'm guessing at the minute for someone like me, that just likes to time trial track against my own ghost and play online, gt7 isn't really that much of an upgrade, so no mad rush to chuck 70 quid at them yet?

9 was odd, spent ages getting within .05, then one run just clicked and beat it by .2!

How hard were IA-8 and 9?! I’m all gold apart from the international A final exam, purely because the ‘all gold’ reward car isn’t worth the ages it’ll take me to find the half second I need to get it. Not started the super license ones yet.

I musta taken 100 goes to do that bloody NSX one (national a 9??). Ended up fluffing the gear change into 3rd on my last attempt (too fast on the lever before the clutch was fully in and it drops you to neutral), rolled the last 100 yards in neutral and still made it..

One other thing, you don’t have to grind to get credits for the mega money cars any more, you can just buy them on the PS Store. £16 gets you 2 million credits. Which is a lot. Of real money. The most expensive cars in games up to now are 20 million.

The makers seem very keen on everything being earned!

I really don't mind the grind, this is a game that should last years, not one that is completed 3 weeks after launch.

The only thing I'd maybe change is the rolling start set up of the races, reduce the gap as on the 16 car races the first car can be halfway around the lap before you've started!

Make it a proper 2x/side by side rolling start and make the AI a bit more competitive - I'm on controller on hard AI and and have to be 25-50 pp under the recommended to make it competitive.

Make it a proper 2x/side by side rolling start

Done a couple of races now where it’s a standing start, that you have to hold the car on the brake/clutch to stop false starting.

Yeah I've seen some people on proper grid starts, I've not come across any yet though and I'm level 20.

I'm not on licence level 20, but have done a couple of grid start events. Holding the brake is tricky with 3 pedal setup 😀

Pro tip, use the handbrake 😉

yeah good call, didn't think of that.

fairly hidden, but you can change the dimensions of wheels (offset, width, diameter) when you buy new ones, which appears to change handling

fairly hidden, but you can change the dimensions of wheels (offset, width, diameter) when you buy new ones, which appears to change handling

Widebody EVERYTHING!!

😁

The legends cars really piss me off. I don’t want to play at being a classic car dealer, I want to play at driving old interesting cars. Not save up then hope the car I wanted when I started is being offered for sale on the day I want it and It hasn’t increased in price due to the in game valuations being based on real life, not in game performance.

Just managed to pre-order a PS5 through smyths, no idea when delivery will be but they reckon by end of the month.

Looking forward to getting cracking through this, spent so many hours on the first 5.

Any thoughts as to which version of GT7 is best to buy - are the added extras and cash worth it / necessary?

I just bought the basic diskless version from the PS store. It was the pre launch version so came with 100,000 credit and some cars. To be honest, the little bits of playing I've done on it so far the extra credits haven't really been useful, same with the cars - if you're doing the licenses and following the story you get plenty of credits and free cars as you go.

I got the 25th anniversary/digital deluxe edition so got the 1.6m credits to start with, I've completed all the menu books, and gold on all but the super license, I currently have just under 4m credits - I won 1m from a roulette after completing the menu books.

I've spent nearly 1.5m on cars, customising and tuning...

That's all license tests on gold with the controller 🥳😁

Some were damn hard, IA test with the AMG Merc at the ring, and of course the last special license test with the Porsche on a damp spa.

I am really enjoying this so far (PS4). I've not had a GT game since my PS2 so the nostalgia is helping my enjoyment grinding through.

I really don't get why they haven't built a decent damage system into the game though. For me it takes away some realism when you smash into a wall and barely receive a scratch on your car.

Also, I wish there was a bigger database of cars. I'm a big Alfa fan so I'm a bit disappointed that there aren't many models to choose from! The 8C is the goal though.

For me it takes away some realism when you smash into a wall and barely receive a scratch on your car.

The reasoning has always been ‘why make the cars look so good only to smash them up’. Plus how far do you go, if the body is damaged, shouldn’t the handling be affected too? Does look ridiculous in some games where you win/cross the finish line with a car that a scrap dealer would reject. I think if they did do proper damage, they would want to go so far with it that they would never actually release a game…

I couldn't resist, downloading! 🙂

I have had it since the weekend and am far from being a virtual driving deity, probably the last GT game I really played was back in 2004, and it's still pretty familiar!

I quite like the slow progression and having to 'earn' things. It's why I always enjoyed the early games and with my (lower) skill level it makes for a better learning curve. If you've jumped in straight from the last game I guess that's less valuable. But for someone who might not play many driving games and likes the idea of getting stuck into something for a while, I think it is a really good effort - that accessibility might be the compromise for the more experienced players. The number of cars to buy does seem fewer than I was expecting though.

I may have accidentally ordered a PS5 with GT7 (and something called Horizon Forbidden West?) today.

I can't wait.