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Can this forum be hosted on it because I think it's the only way to speed it up?
200 seconds to complete a task that would take current super-computers 10,000 years!


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 7:27 pm
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Well if STW could run on it, it would be a relief that things have speeded up...

A Quantum of Solace*, one could say, though would it still respect my privacy on a more regular basis?

*OED Solace and consolation are synonyms meaning "relief from grief or disappointment."


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 7:37 pm
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Except IBM say they can do the same task on a classical computer in 2.5 days, rather than 10,000 years.


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 7:43 pm
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It's not true quantum supremacy, but still a significant step forward. 3 minutes vs 2.5 days, a 53 qubit processor vs the world's most powerful computing array......


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 8:00 pm
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They were asking the wrong qu. Bit.


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 8:06 pm
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Interesting stuff but once you read IBM's take on it, it's not quite as impressive as Google would have us believe. Yet!👍


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 8:12 pm
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How much would one of them cost Vs supercomputer?


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 8:14 pm
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Hope they remember the 1st Commandment of the Orange Catholic Bible....😁


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 8:51 pm
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at this stage, there are orders of magnitude difference in cost between a qubit array vs a classical chip based array.

But to compare the two kind of misses the point of what quantum computing can / will be able to do in the future. QC won't just do what Classical computers can do faster, they can do things that Classical computers simply can't.  As an example, molecular modelling of chemical molecules where currently we can only approximate, then have to make them and test them without a high degree of certainty.  Because quantum mechanics 'controls' the behaviour of molecules in interactions / reactions, QC is the right simulation to predict that behaviour accurately. But the design of the QC, and the 'software' to run it are going to be relatively speaking unique to those specific applications, rather than a general purpose computer that you can just run your own software on, and frankly for day to day purposes standard technology and foreseeable (moore's law) development will be plenty good enough.

https://www.wired.com/story/wired-guide-to-quantum-computing/

https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/quantum-computing-for-the-qubit-curious-1

Other applications being looked at are climatology, battery design, being able to predict complex global supply chains, etc. You won't have a qubit based processor in your phone any time soon, if ever (you'd need a cryogenic dilution fridge in your other pocket for a start)

So yes, it's computing in the sense of being able to do very complex 'calculations' very fast but comparing it to classical computing is not valid, other than currently trying to compare the two on a task that is common or achievable by both to show whether one is better or not.

https://www.npl.co.uk/special-pages/documents/quantum-metrology-institute/qmi-superconducting-quantum-computing-report


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 9:11 pm
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If they ever get this to market and it lives up to claims, it's going to be an interesting day a) for cybersecurity and b) for cryptocurrencies.


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 9:13 pm
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While I recognise that theotherjonv's post is words formed into sentences in English, I'm pretty at the same level as this...

Image result for blackadder George 3


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 9:19 pm
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cybersecurity......they're ahead of you already with QKD

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/quantum-cryptography-and-the-future-of-security

cryptocurrencies - yep. But they can and are protectable too.

https://cryptobriefing.com/bitcoin-survive-quantum-computers/


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 9:26 pm
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If they ever get this to market and it lives up to claims, it’s going to be an interesting day a) for cybersecurity and b) for cryptocurrencies.

Not necessarily. There are several types of cypher which are almost equally as effective against QC as normal ones. Even bitcoin mining can be done more cost effectively on Tesla cards than a QC.

The real advantage of QC is in their ability to solve high dimensionality problems which are infeasible on conventional HPCs due to exponential effects in the coupling of dimensions.


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 9:27 pm
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The real advantage of QC is in their ability to solve high dimensionality problems which are infeasible on conventional HPCs due to exponential effects in the coupling of dimensions.

“That would be an ecumenical matter”.


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 10:03 pm
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You can't stop modern science. Can't stop it, you can't stop it. Can't stop science. Can't be stopped, no way, no how, science just marches...


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 10:40 pm
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You can’t stop modern science.

There are those, currently in positions of power, who will do their absolute damndest to try and stop it...


 
Posted : 23/10/2019 11:55 pm
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I'm no expert in quantum computing but I'd just like to say that I understand all this thread.


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 12:55 am
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There are 3 types of people in this world

Those who understand quantum computing

Those who do not understand quantum computing

And those who both simultaneously do and do not understand quantum computing


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 7:36 am
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But can it run Crysis?


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 9:21 am
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Please tell me they have this as a user interface...
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Posted : 24/10/2019 9:59 am
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as an example, molecular modelling of chemical molecules where currently we can only approximate, then have to make them and test them without a high degree of certainty. Because quantum mechanics ‘controls’ the behaviour of molecules in interactions / reactions, QC is the right simulation to predict that behaviour accurately. But the design of the QC, and the ‘software’ to run it are going to be relatively speaking unique to those specific applications, rather than a general purpose computer that you can just run your own software on, and frankly for day to day purposes standard technology and foreseeable (moore’s law) development will be plenty good enough.

Nope. I've read it three times and my brain hurts.


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 10:49 am
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Seems a lot of effort to go to when they could have just borrowed Drac's iPad.


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 10:56 am
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But can it run Crysis?

No, but you can play QuBert


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 11:00 am
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Nope. I’ve read it three times and my brain hurts.

At a rough guess:
The active compounds in certain drugs, actually probably all drugs, interact with the human body based not only on what they're made of but also what shape they are. We can guess that a particular molecule might have a beneficial effect because it has a similar shape to another molecule we already know works. With current computing techniques we're only estimating shapes at the moment so it's a bit of a targeted trial-and-error approach. With quantum computing, because quantum mechanics is effectively what determines the shape of a molecule and how each individual atom in that molecule reacts with its surroundings, we can more accurately model drug/target interactions.

Don't quote me on that though. It's been A LONG time since I was involved with drug development and I'm sure modern techniques are much more advanced than I remember.


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 11:04 am
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While I recognise that theotherjonv’s post is words formed into sentences in English, I’m pretty at the same level as this…

Yeah, me too.


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 11:22 am
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Other applications being looked at are climatology, battery design, being able to predict complex global supply chains, etc.

If only I could think of an area of application where being able to run really really complex models really really quickly to get ahead of the competition was something people with loads and loads of money were prepared to pay for. Something like financial markets say. Yeah let's knock the arse out of that.

I may not be the first person in the world to have this thought.


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 11:38 am
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cybersecurity……they’re ahead of you already with QKD

See also https://www.etsi.org/technologies/quantum-safe-cryptography

Plus the various players in cybersecurity who learned all they know from Chicken Licken.


 
Posted : 24/10/2019 11:42 am

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