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Seriously impressed they got Lassie there though, that is one old dog!
**** !
(him, not you - although you did just draw my attention to him 🙁 )
Is somebody taking the piss?
...are objecting.
Can I just say I really REALLY hate that **** blair.
Chief Exec of Save the Children Justin Forsyth, biog:
http://blogs.savethechildren.org.uk/author/jforsyth/
I am the Chief Executive of Save the Children. I started my career with Oxfam as a policy adviser on southern Africa, a cause which has been close to my heart. I spent 15 years at Oxfam, rising through the ranks. In 1995 I went to Washington DC to set up Oxfam International, before returning in 1999 as Policy Director. In the early 2000s, I added campaigning and communications to my responsibilities and worked to build Oxfam as a global force. In 2004, I was recruited to No.10 by Tony Blair where I led efforts on poverty and climate change and was one of the driving forces behind the Make Poverty History campaign. I became Gordon Brown's strategic communications and campaigns director,
Another charity riddled with partisan peeps.
that's a stupid thing to say.
why? do you think the third sector is above such dirty words as patronage?
Patronage? Or just plain old fashioned corruption? It's just another version of the old school tie network in action.
Jobs for the comrades, comrade!
I admire the chutzpah in actually accepting the award.
any donation to save the children is now cancelled , i dont want to be assosiated with him or them.
I can't help thinking it's some kind of massive joke, especially the peace envoy job - even Blair himself must be thinking "WTF ?"
even Blair himself must be thinking "WTF ?"
Nope, he's just counting his ever growing bank balance.
Corrupt, vile little shit of a man.
Blair has also been awarded the World Cup to be played in his garden.
He's only doing stuff that your Tories have been doing for decades.
Is this why you hate him so much?
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Ernest, that wins a whole internet! 😀
Gobsmacked...
El-bent - Member
He's only doing stuff that your Tories have been doing for decades.Is this why you hate him so much?
It shouldn't be necessary to bother with an answer to that.
However, as a [i]supposed[/i] Labour politician, one would think that he would be above it.
He is, though, far, far worse than any Tory politician that I can ever remember. The point being, that most Tory politicians came from backgrounds with money, they didn't need to be such a greedy, money-grabbing scumbag.
Now that pretty much all Labour politicians come from similar posh backgrounds, went to posh public schools, went to posh universities, and were/are fast-tracked through the party structure, they're pretty much indistinguishable, but far more contemptible in that they have betrayed the very people they profess to represent.
People like me, as it happens.
Nice edit there, Zippy. What did you mean by "on our side"?
Blair was, and is, only ever on one side - His own.
*Edit - Nicely put, CZ*
So should everyone who has attended posh universities (which ones are they BTW?) be automatically disqualified from serving parts of the population?
The whole award and the reasons given should suggest zero attention being given to it.
Odd that BLiar didn't choose the correct (hidden) club tie for the occassion.....balls and Dave rarely take them off.
pretty much all Labour politicians come from similar posh backgrounds, went to posh public schools, went to posh universities, and were/are fast-tracked through the party structure
That's not actually true.
So should everyone who has attended posh universities (which ones are they BTW?) be automatically disqualified from serving parts of the population?
I like this idea.
It shouldn't be necessary to bother with an answer to that.
I wasn't addressing the Labour supporters. He behaves like a tory, the tory supporters hate this association.
Prescott was the perfect antidote to that idea
Still Hunt and Milliband will announce the latest silly idea against Posh (!?!) schools in order to grab a headline...
Can we stick to the topic please, which is about all the children which Blair has apparently saved. I wonder if they counted all those children in Gaza recently which as Middle East Peace Envoy Blair no doubt helped to save.
CFH I was trying to say what CZ said a lot better.
Why are you guys so surprised? The world is full of self-congratulatory social climbing narcissists.
why? do you think the third sector is above such dirty words as patronage?
because showing that the boss spent a few years in politics doesn't show that Save The Children is "riddled with partisan peeps".
you may be right, konabunny - the alternative is that it's "riddled with morons unable to distinguish between a philanthropist and a nasty, venal, weaselly shitehouse"
Like or not many charities have people working for them at senior level who could be considered left of centre. In many ways that goes with the job and is the reason they may be involved with type of work. Perhaps they see it as a better way to actually do something rather than be a politician. The result being they'll favour the politicians who the support.
If you don't agree with the award to Blair sign the 38degrees petition linked above. Talk and moaning is not doing anything.
38degrees have been effective on a number of issues, go have a look. I'm rightish of centre (now I'm old) but prefer to support issues that I believe are right (thing to do) rather than be connected to any political view.
You think Blair is left of centre?!
the alternative is that it's "riddled with morons unable to distinguish between a philanthropist and a nasty, venal, weaselly shitehouse"
that's not the only alternative. it's also possible that the boss has a big throbbing one for Blair and he has orchestrated this. it doesn't mean the whole organisation is "riddled with morons" etc. it doesn't mean that the work that save the children is doing is valueless or shouldn't be supported either.
just out of interest, what have you done today to make the world a better place?
describes CFH perfectly 😆The world is full of self-congratulatory social climbing narcissists.
So why hasn't anyone challenged it ?that's not the only alternative. it's also possible that the boss has a big throbbing one for Blair and he has orchestrated this. it doesn't mean the whole organisation is "riddled with morons" etc. it doesn't mean that the work that save the children is doing is valueless or shouldn't be supported either.
Not quite sure of the relevance. So far, I've made a fairish cappuccino and some toast 🙂 but later I'm taking time out of my day off to teach some folk how better to care for their patients. That's the best I've got though 🙁just out of interest, what have you done today to make the world a better place?
What I won't be doing is allowing anybody, anywhere to imagine that Tony Blair (and those like him) is anything other than a ****, with a fair dollop of blood on his hands
baronsamedi - Member
[i]The world is full of self-congratulatory social climbing narcissists.[/i]
describes CFH perfectly
Since when did personal insults become okay acceptable on here?
just out of interest, what have you done today to make the world a better place?
Bugger all! but I won't be starting a war and with a bit of luck I won't kill anybody so that's a start, mind you probably won't get any awards either. 🙄 Typical!
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Since when did personal insults become okay acceptable on here?
Not to mention if Flashy climbed any higher he'd get altitude sickness 😉
Personal insults aimed at Blair are fine, in fact they should be encouraged imo, everyone hates the lying cheating fraudster. Although bizarrely he was hugely popular as Prime Minister and easily won three elections.
😯he was hugely popular as Prime Minister
I know I voted for the cheeky monkey, I think it's the crassness of it all. John Major made shed loads of money out of Gulf1 and was Non exec on some arms company that made money or something but at least he's posh enough to do it quietly while watching cricket without trying to be all Ghandi
Maybe Tony is lining up a job for sons and/or friends. STC have 33 people earning above £60k including 2 on £130-140k and 3 on £100-110k, just the job for Blair junior?
but at least he's posh enough to....
I would consider Blair to be considerably more 'posh' than John Major.
If you haven't understood that then you haven't understood the problem.
Not to mention if Flashy climbed any higher he'd get altitude sickness
I thought it was if he got any higher he could not see who he was pissing on 😉
No offence meant Cpt just a joke
Corrupt, vile little shit of a man.
THIS
I assume he gets the Noble peace prize soon then...are we just waiting for israel to be involved in a "proper" war to give it to him for his sterling efforts there?
Personal insults aimed at Blair are fine, in fact they should be encouraged imo, [b]everyone[/b] hates the lying cheating fraudster. Although bizarrely he was [b]hugely popular[/b] as Prime Minister and easily won three elections
@ernie you have contradicted yourself. If he was hated by everyone he wouldn't have been PM for so long, or in fact at all. He is disliked by the anti-war / conflict groups as in their view a Labour PM should never go to war and by those who think he's now made too much money. He oversaw the signing of the peace agreement with the IRA.
We can and do go round in circles on this on here but any likely UK Prime Minister at that time would have done the same on Afghanistan and Iraq.
We can and do go round in circles on this on here but any likely UK Prime Minister at that time would have done the same on Afghanistan and Iraq.
In a previous generation, Harold Wilson had the balls to refuse Lyndon B Johnson's requests for us to enter the Vietnam war. So clearly it can be done.
So why hasn't anyone challenged it ?
How do you know it hasn't been challenged and the boss pushed it through anyway?
Not quite sure of the relevance.
It's relevant because some people here seem very quick to write off organisations that [i]do [/i]do a lot to make the world a better place as being
riddled with morons
Do any of Blairs offspring want a career in politics? Does he see himself as the patriarch of a political dynasty such as the Bush's or Kennedy's?
in their view a Labour PM should never go to war
Yes that was exactly why everyone opposed the war , excellent insight 🙄
Do any of Blairs offspring want a career in politics?
Not sure but the labour party is getting a bit dynastic as well
At least three children of MPs there i can name of the top of my head and Jack Straws son is a candidate next time as well iirc.
These awards are just total sham. - Just like Obama receiving a Nobel peace prize ..
If he was hated by everyone he wouldn't have been PM for so long, or in fact at all.
Didn't you notice who he was standing against? Ian Duncan Smith for PM anyone? Michael Howard?
I don't hate Blair. Not like I hated Thatcher. At least you knew what you were getting there. I just view him with the utter contempt he so richly deserves. A man completely and utterly devoid of any shred of principle, who would do absolutely anything, [url= http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/feb/20/phone-hacking-trial-tony-blair-rebekah-brooks ]for anyone[/url] , no matter how unsavoury, as long as they throw [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/tony-blair/11052965/Tony-Blair-gives-Kazakhstans-autocratic-president-tips-on-how-to-defend-a-massacre.html ]millions of pounds at him[/url]
"If he was hated by everyone he wouldn't have been PM for so long, or in fact at all".Didn't you notice who he was standing against? Ian Duncan Smith for PM anyone? Michael Howard?
I'm not sure that many people feel the same loathing towards Ian Duncan Smith and Michael Howard as they do towards Blair.
Had Blair been an electoral liability he would not have remained leader for so long. It's not a case of he was hated but the opposition leaders were considered worse.
Blair was popular with the electorate but now everyone hates him.
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He oversaw the signing of the peace agreement with the IRA.
The process of a negotiated peace agreement with the PIRA was started by John Major. Tony Blair did not have any choice politically other than to carry on with the NI peace talks.
It took considerable courage for John Major to instigate talks with the PIRA, the political consequences if it all went pear-shaped were absolutely enormous, specially given both huge public hostility towards the PIRA and decades of British government anti-IRA propaganda.
It took no courage on the part of Tony Blair to continue with the already well established NI peace talks when he became PM. In fact abandoning the peace talks would have been political suicide for Blair as by then they were providing a glimmer of hope in a stalemate situation, as it became obvious that not only could the PIRA not be defeated militarily but that the PIRA was actually prepared to genuinely talk about a lasting peace in NI.
It's John Major who deserves the credit for the NI peace process, not Tony Blair, although he rarely gets it.
I was at a business event just before Tony won his first election and he had turned up to seek the support of the small business community (he did a lot of this to steal traditional Tory votes) the people in the room were initially anti Blair but within 15 minutes he had well and truly won them over, now I am probably a socialist at heart but firmly believe in balancing it with good capatilism (if such a thing exists) so Blair should have won me over very easily but I had an instant almost unreasonable dislike of the man (I thought he was unhinged) yet I could not at that point explain why? I think he is the most publicly accepted sociopath in recent times. Nothing he does or accepts will ever surprise me, he has amassed a personal wealth from some very questionable sources and no one seems to mind?
but I had an instant almost unreasonable dislike of the man (I thought he was unhinged) yet I could not at that point explain why?
You were vindicated by the fact that Blair turned out to be a full on Catholic loony who thought that God had sent him on a mission to invade Iraq and topple Saddam.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4772142.stm
It's John Major who deserves the credit for the NI peace process, not Tony Blair, although he rarely gets it
+1 he also took considerable political risk , including opposition from high ranking Tory cabinet ministers, to put his personal political neck on the block in pursuit of peace.
Whilst very pleased to see John Major's undoubted influence so warmly acknowledged, I don't think Blair inherited a flat wicket and it took considerable political ability, albeit with less risk, to close it out. Blair's relationship with Clinton was incredibly important.
I am no fan of Blair, but I think it is a tad churlish not to recognise that he was a man of uncommon political ability, who is not without achievements.
Blair was popular with the electorate but now everyone hates him.
Really? Only freaks and weirdos hate him. Normal people will be indifferent.
I am no fan of Blair, but I think it is a tad churlish not to recognise that he was a man of uncommon political ability, who is not without achievements.
Sadly he chose to use those uncommon abilities to reign terror upon the middle east rather than peace....
Only freaks and weirdos hate him. Normal people will be indifferent.
Really ? Even anti-Apartheid hero Desmond Tutu ...... he's 'a freak and a weirdo' too ?
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OK 'hate' might be too strong a word to associate with a man of the cloth, but Desmond Tutu certainly shares very simular views on Tony Blair to me, ie, that he is a war criminal who should be put on trial. He certainly isn't "indifferent".
I'm quite happy to be considered a freak or weirdo if the alternative is having to be indifferent to Blair (or his wife).
Now Lance has admitted doping I'm left with Blair and Bono as models of immorality, and Clarkson as anti-Christ.
Only freaks and weirdos hate him.
and Iraqis. and Afghans.
😀 at the comments re yours truly above! Good work, folks! (Most of you, at least)
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Powell, Forsyth, Blair - an unholy troika - the muddy waters become crystal.....
"Save the Children staff furious over ‘global legacy’ award for Tony Blair"
Freaks and weirdos ! They should be indifferent !