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Anybody else getting bored to tears with the royal third generationers whining on and on about their dead mother?
Give it a rest or just go on Victoria Derbyshire for a living... 🙄
I thought this would either be about Remoaners or 3rd wave Feminazis.
Is it being beamed directly into your head?
Wrong thread.
I was expecting another rant about how dropper posts are a solution looking for a problem.
Anybody else getting bored to tears with the royal third generationers whining on and on about their dead mother?
I find that I mentally filter out the endless reporting on them in the same way I do for some especially prolific, yet content-free, STW posters.
I know!
The exposure they are getting from it. It's the best thing that ever happened to them.
Lucky bastards; they wouldn't be in the publice eye if it wasn't for that.
Let's face it, Diana's death was the start of the whole British mass-display-of-grief-for-people-we-don't-actually-know thing that is so prevalent these days. What is that all about?
Lucky bastards; they wouldn't be in the publice eye if it wasn't for that
Well, the wife of the horsey-faced one is quite good at wearing different dresses....
And what about randy Andy and Ed! What are they for?
Stay classy
Is the Queen dead? If not, who is?
#intrigued
This will cheer you up
I thought this was about Mrs Weeksy giving me the "**** off" face when I mentioned a new motorbike
[quote=enfht ]I thought this would either be about Remoaners or 3rd wave Feminazis.
why is is that only those really close to being a Nazi use the term for women who dont want to be door mats oppressed by right wing sexist neanderthal moronic dullards?
I feel sorry for the sort of pathetic excuse for humanity who is threatened by a female who simply wants equality. The pathetic wee things are actually threatened by assertive women.. Bless the, perhaps mummy was too cold with them?
As for the royals two things
1. Their mother died FFS have at least some semblance of respect for how awful it must have been to lose your mother as a child and then have to deal with it in public.
2. I think its good that we can talk openly about these things
I do agree it was the start of public grief as a sort of endurance sport but that is separate from respecting the fact that losing your mum as a child has a serious impact on your life
My mate is 50 and it was 45 years ago for him
he still talks about it ...I have yet to yawn and say shut up you boring bastard its only your mum get over it NO ONE CARES.
Some of you really need some empathy in your life
PS dont get a tv i have no idea what you are talking about as I have not heard anything about this lately
Anybody else getting bored to tears with the royal third generationers whining on and on about their dead mother?
No. Why shouldn't they talk about it?
Junky, there is a world of difference between intersectional feminism and 3rd wave. Not least in the way they treat people. Would probably be at home on here mind you.
I thought this thread was going to be about baby robins, "amusing" variations on topic titles and such...
3rd wave feminazis are every bit as bad as right wing sexist neanderthal moronic dullards. Get two of them together though and it's wonderful entertainment.why is is that only those really close to being a Nazi use the term for women who dont want to be door mats oppressed by right wing sexist neanderthal moronic dullards?
I feel sorry for the sort of pathetic excuse for humanity who is threatened by a female who simply wants equality. The pathetic wee things are actually threatened by assertive women.. Bless the, perhaps mummy was too cold with them?
Mrs J and a new kitchen?
I tend to feel a bit sorry for them,even though they are amazingly privileged losing your mum in such public circumstances and having to grieve I public must be a headforker,cant say I pay much attention to it though really,just another story on the news.
3rd wave feminazis
IME its a term used entirely by alt right fascist/racist/sexist who cannot handle the fact a woman does not want to be treated like it is the 16 th Century so they resort to shooting the messenger with lazy insults.
Injustice can indeed make some folk strident in their views.
Is it just me that thinks it's a bit weird to start a thread to discuss something you want to hear less about?
I thought it was a thread for Woppit apologising for his years of going on about and on about it in threads.
Facist/racist/sexist sounds about right to describe a 3rd wave feminazi. They have a lot more in common with the alt right than either would like to admit.
Hang on lads, I don't think I've brought enough popcorn for everyone.
Gluten free shortbread biscuit anyone?
Facist/racist/sexist sounds about right to describe a 3rd wave feminazi. They have a lot more in common with the alt right than either would like to admit.
Examples please
The reason they are talking about it, and it's in the news a bit more recently is that their experiences are being used by the princes to contribute to a debate on mental health, and discussion about monumental, life changing events that may have a detrimental effect on it. Particularly aimed at blokes, who don't think they should be open an honest when they start to struggle in such a way, which only exacerbates the problem. Think about all the support that people get when they come and pour their heart out on here, many people don't have such a supportive sounding board to turn to.
So no, I don't think they should stop going on about it. I think it's A Good Thing.
Facist/racist/sexist sounds about right to describe a 3rd wave feminazi
Its a lazy name calling exercise whose only useful purpose is to give an insight into the mind of the person using it.
Excellent point but its ok its derailed already 😉Is it just me that thinks it's a bit weird to start a thread to discuss something you want to hear less about?
WTF is a "3rd wave feminazi" anyway?
WTF is a "3rd wave feminazi" anyway?
+1, do tell.
enfht - Member
I thought this would either be about Remoaners or 3rd wave Feminazis.
I thought this was going to be about BullshiteBrexiteers more lies and smokeskreens, but yeah.. what is a Feminazi ?
some semblance of respect for how awful it must have been to lose your mother as a child
That's very close...
Inner ring but not a bullseye.
but yeah.. what is a Feminazi ?
It's one of those handy words which often tells you more about the person using it than it does about the person / people they're talking about. A "feminazi," depending on the point of view of the speaker, is one of two things:
1) a very vocal, man-hating sexist, bra-burning, probably lesbian, extreme radical feminist who turns every possible minor event into a massive shitstorm and generally gives feminists a bad name.
2) someone in favour of women's rights and thus a threat to fragile manbabies, who therefore must be bullied and ridiculed at every opportunity.
It was more the "3rd wave" I was querying TBH.
ROFL at Junkyard, proper triggered 😀
From Wiki
Third-wave feminism encompasses several diverse strains of feminist activity and study. Though exact boundaries are a subject of debate, it is generally marked as beginning in the early 1990s and continuing to the present. It is an "individual movement" in the sense that its purpose includes redefining what it is to be a feminist.
The third wave arose partially as a response to the perceived failures of second-wave feminism,[1] and the backlash against initiatives and movements created during the 1960s, '70s and '80s. It attempts to expand feminism to include women with a diverse set of identities[2][3] recognising that women are of "many colors, ethnicities, nationalities, religions and cultural backgrounds". Thus it can be seen as a reaction to or continuation of second-wave feminism, and constitutes a partial destabilization of constructs from the second wave. The related concept of intersectionality was introduced in 1989, a few years before the third wave began, but it was during this wave that the concept was embraced.
Rebecca Walker coined the term "Third Wave" to highlight the focus on queer and non-white women.[4]
In 1992, she published an article in response to the Anita Hill case, in order to express her offense at what she saw as the silencing of women by men who commit acts of sexual harassment and other forms of oppression, and who use their privilege to escape justice for such injustices, stating, "I am not a post-feminism feminist. I am the third wave".[5] Walker sought to establish that third-wave feminism was not just a reaction, but a movement in itself, because women's issues were far from over. Third-wave feminists have broadened their goals, focusing on ideas like queer theory, and abolishing gender role expectations and stereotypes.[6] Unlike the determined opposition of second-wave feminists to women in pornography, sex work, and prostitution,[7] third-wave feminists were rather ambiguous and divided about these themes (feminist sex wars).[8] While some thought these sexual acts were degrading and oppressing women, others saw it as empowering that women were owning their sexuality.[9] There was a divide in opinion but third-wave feminism embraced differences, personal narratives, and individualism, instead of all having one agenda (there were exceptions such as rape culture and equal pay). The focus was less on political changes and more on individualistic identity.[1]
Well 3rd wave is easy enough, there's a whole wiki page on it (generally anything from mid 90's onwards).
I'd plump for option 1 but without the assumptions on sexuality. Some people just love the drama, like I said they would get on well here. Vocal minority dickheads that discount anything anyone else says because privilege, love to use the term 'mansplain' and tell you what you are really thinking. Mass flouters of Wheaton's Rule. More interested in the sound of their own voice than any sort of productive discussion. Also like shaming other women for "unfeminist" views, actions etc. (see asozial)
Both shut down debate because it conflicts with their own viewpoint. Both go after and bully people who dare to suggest something that doesnt fit with their own viewpoint. Both take quotes out of context and hound people until they resign or go after their employers, sponsors etc. Both display sexist behavior (one predominatly sexist towards women, the other towards men), both display racist behaviour (one predominatly agianst people of colour, one against white people). Plently examples and material online should you care to go and look.Examples please
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-wave_feminismit was more the "3rd wave" I was querying TBH.
1) a very vocal, man-hating sexist, [s]bra-burning, probably lesbian,[/s] extreme radical feminist who turns every possible minor event into a massive shitstorm and generally gives feminists a bad name.but yeah.. what is a Feminazi ?
km79
so can you give some actual examples of this behaviour?
Aaaah, so THIS is where all the ****s are....
[quote=enfht ]ROFL at Junkyard, proper triggered
If you have got to the point of posting things just for my reaction, or looking out for it, you may well wish to ask yourself who has really got under whose skin...bless.
yours
snowflake
any time a woman objects to being a doormat?so can you give some actual examples of this behaviour?
Look up no-platforming, petitions against Germaine Greer, Jordan Peterson, any videos or material from a radical third wave feminst or an alt right protest/demonstation. If you can't see the similarities in their behavior yourself then I can't help you.so can you give some actual examples of this behaviour?
No Junkyard, that's nothing like what was said.
Let's face it, Diana's death was the start of the whole British mass-display-of-grief-for-people-we-don't-actually-know thing that is so prevalent these days. What is that all about?
I was biking in France when the funeral took place, I couldn't believe my eyes when I came back through London past all the flowers that had been left.
I'm in two minds about the mass display of grief thing in that the British have been known for bottling up their emotions, stiff upper lip and all that bollocks, so being able to allow some release has to be a good thing, but I'm not so sure about these big displays of public grief, it's almost like an excuse to be seen to be doing something.
Not sure I've explained that very well, but I hope people get the gist.
As regards the princes, as someone quite rightly pointed out, what they're trying to do is bring into the open the issue with mental health in men, which links in with the bottling up of emotions as well, and which just coincidentally also ties in with the death recently of two individuals who fronted major rock bands, and who hung themselves after long periods of depression, so anyone making light of what the princes are attempting to do should maybe look at the threads about these two men, and perhaps have a moment of reflection on what the effects of such issues might be on their own families.
km79 - Memberso can you give some actual examples of this behaviour?
Look up no-platforming, petitions against Germaine Greer, Jordan Peterson, any videos or material from a radical third wave feminst or an alt right protest/demonstation. If you can't see the similarities in their behavior yourself then I can't help you.
Nope - don't see the similarities at all. Some actual concrete examples please of the behaviour you describe. Not vague generalities
Look it up youself ffs if you care, like I said [b]If you can't see the similarities in their behavior yourself then I can't help you.[/b]
I can't see the similarities because they are not there. No platforming for example is usually a tactic of the infantile left.
If something bothers you like this why create a thread that will only highlight it even more?
Km, you won't win, tj can't be wrong.
Well it seems to me with all the terrorist stuff and Brexit etc...the public could do with a bit of distraction.
The reason they are talking about it, and it's in the news a bit more recently is that their experiences are being used by the princes to contribute to a debate on mental health, and discussion about monumental, life changing events that may have a detrimental effect on it. Particularly aimed at blokes, who don't think they should be open an honest when they start to struggle in such a way, which only exacerbates the problem. Think about all the support that people get when they come and pour their heart out on here, many people don't have such a supportive sounding board to turn to.So no, I don't think they should stop going on about it. I think it's A Good Thing.
This. And please say why if you don't think it's a good thing
If something bothers you like this why create a thread that will only highlight it even more?
And this.
Personally, I can't begin to start to think about what a headf*ck it must have been to have your parents split up, have it all play out in the press, have your mam die in horrific circumstances, and then have to walk behind the hearse in the most public was possible. William was interviewed in GQ recently, said he could hear people wailing, crying, see them fainting etc as he walked along. They still have my sympathies and I've never been pro-Royal.
Ah, so "third wave feminazi" means the extremist end of third wave feminism and not, as I read it, the third wave of extremists. Thanks for that.
I'm not entirely sure which version is more problematic, TBH.
Nope didnt see that coming.
I was thinking its going to brexit or eBikes.
As regards the actual subject, what do you expect?
Losing your mother in those circumstances will stick with you everyday for the rest of your life.
If something bothers you like this why create a thread that will only highlight it even more?
Self harm, probably.
Apart from the odd headline I haven't heard a great deal about it. Certainly not enough to moan on a forum about it.
Stop your squabbling we've got a candle lit vigil to organise.
Well to me it looks more like a predictable charm offensive , drummed up by some toady Royal advisors.
How else are they going to encourage more plebs waving union jack's & choking back the tears while mewing "We love you King William" , coronation cant be to far in the future.
They even had me feeling sorry for them for a wee bit & I'm a horrible stone hearted bar steward.
Ah, so "third wave feminazi" means the extremist end of third wave feminism and not, as I read it, the third wave of extremists. Thanks for that.
In the context it was presented, yes. That's not to say some MRA tosser wouldn't use it to describe your option 2 feminist going about their business. But I just doubt them (and said feminazis) as pricks and not worth wasting time on beyond the decent amount. Sow folk just aren't interested in changing their views, as someone said on another topic, there is a serious lack of dialectic discussion.
It's at saturation point on the Daily Heil right now.
Maybe, ya know, turn it off?
To be fair it's allowed them to open up about it and supposedly this is the first time they've really talked about it honestly between themselves even. This combines with the mental health campaign they're on which relates to their experiences also, and this stuff needs far more public awareness and acceptance.
Whether you are interested in it or not is another matter and simply ignoring it or changing the channel deals with it if you aren't.
Are you lot still going on and on and on about it? 🙄